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In article , Dave Bushong
writes: Actually, that's not automatically true. A ham was charged with transmitting on a police frequency, using his modified ham HT, because that was the only way he felt that he could get help for a life- threatening injury (and it was probably an accurate assessment). But the police said that since he had modified the radio *before* the incident, that is when the act illegal was planned, and there is nothing in the rules per se that says that 'emergencies negate' anything. Only in America... |
In article , Dave Bushong
writes: Actually, that's not automatically true. A ham was charged with transmitting on a police frequency, using his modified ham HT, because that was the only way he felt that he could get help for a life- threatening injury (and it was probably an accurate assessment). But the police said that since he had modified the radio *before* the incident, that is when the act illegal was planned, and there is nothing in the rules per se that says that 'emergencies negate' anything. Only in America... |
Why would someone with an amateur license and a fine radio want to talk to
kids with walkie (frs) talkies in the first place?? "Neill Burkett" wrote in message ... besides the radio shack htx 420 / are there any other radios, preferably dual band tranceiver that can transmit on the FRS channels as well |
Why would someone with an amateur license and a fine radio want to talk to
kids with walkie (frs) talkies in the first place?? "Neill Burkett" wrote in message ... besides the radio shack htx 420 / are there any other radios, preferably dual band tranceiver that can transmit on the FRS channels as well |
"Dave Bushong" wrote in message .. . Emergencies negate prohibiting regulations. Actually, that's not automatically true. A ham was charged with transmitting on a police frequency, using his modified ham HT, because that was the only way he felt that he could get help for a life- threatening injury (and it was probably an accurate assessment). But the police said that since he had modified the radio *before* the incident, that is when the act illegal was planned, and there is nothing Uh, if you continue to post this 'partial' reference, please consider posting the WHOLE story. The individual was in deed arrested and charged. But according to NUMEROUS other accounts, the individual had other means to make contact other than using his HAM radio on sheriffs frequencies. Also, the 'incident' that this involved was NOT (allegedly) a life threatening situation. And also according to the stories posted about this incident, the individual had a HISTORY of doing this or similar things in the area. My impression, and my opinion, was the guy was a little weasel and the legal authorities just plain got fed up with the little twit and nailed him. If you have other facts to post about this, I'm sure people here would love to hear facts. But in the absence of verifiable facts, I think you chose a very poor example. Mike |
"Dave Bushong" wrote in message .. . Emergencies negate prohibiting regulations. Actually, that's not automatically true. A ham was charged with transmitting on a police frequency, using his modified ham HT, because that was the only way he felt that he could get help for a life- threatening injury (and it was probably an accurate assessment). But the police said that since he had modified the radio *before* the incident, that is when the act illegal was planned, and there is nothing Uh, if you continue to post this 'partial' reference, please consider posting the WHOLE story. The individual was in deed arrested and charged. But according to NUMEROUS other accounts, the individual had other means to make contact other than using his HAM radio on sheriffs frequencies. Also, the 'incident' that this involved was NOT (allegedly) a life threatening situation. And also according to the stories posted about this incident, the individual had a HISTORY of doing this or similar things in the area. My impression, and my opinion, was the guy was a little weasel and the legal authorities just plain got fed up with the little twit and nailed him. If you have other facts to post about this, I'm sure people here would love to hear facts. But in the absence of verifiable facts, I think you chose a very poor example. Mike |
Paul Jordan wrote: Why would someone with an amateur license and a fine radio want to talk to kids with walkie (frs) talkies in the first place?? Not everyone has or wants a license, so it's easier to carry one radio. The use of an amateur radio on FRS is not right, but as long as it's done on the lowest power with a rubber ducky, and you're not an a$$, you should be OK. |
Paul Jordan wrote: Why would someone with an amateur license and a fine radio want to talk to kids with walkie (frs) talkies in the first place?? Not everyone has or wants a license, so it's easier to carry one radio. The use of an amateur radio on FRS is not right, but as long as it's done on the lowest power with a rubber ducky, and you're not an a$$, you should be OK. |
"Paul Jordan" wrote in message ... Why would someone with an amateur license and a fine radio want to talk to kids with walkie (frs) talkies in the first place?? In my case I go camping with the wife and kids alot. I found my Alinco mobile rig (when "opened up" via "the mod" would TX with full power in the FRS & GMRS band(s). This is handy when I have to leave the campsite and if I have 2 call the wife from the quikie-mart a couple miles down the road from the campsite on her Motorola FRS. |
"Paul Jordan" wrote in message ... Why would someone with an amateur license and a fine radio want to talk to kids with walkie (frs) talkies in the first place?? In my case I go camping with the wife and kids alot. I found my Alinco mobile rig (when "opened up" via "the mod" would TX with full power in the FRS & GMRS band(s). This is handy when I have to leave the campsite and if I have 2 call the wife from the quikie-mart a couple miles down the road from the campsite on her Motorola FRS. |
So if I come upon a burning house, I may then, and only then, modify my
radio to call for help. IF I have means to do so. Disabled as I am, I guess I must watch house burn and take occupants with it. N'est ce pas? |
So if I come upon a burning house, I may then, and only then, modify my
radio to call for help. IF I have means to do so. Disabled as I am, I guess I must watch house burn and take occupants with it. N'est ce pas? |
Dean Arthur ) writes:
So if I come upon a burning house, I may then, and only then, modify my radio to call for help. IF I have means to do so. Disabled as I am, I guess I must watch house burn and take occupants with it. N'est ce pas? Yes, because that's the situation most people would be in. Most people don't walk around with radio transceivers, so they'd run to a phone and call it in. Or in recent years, use their cellphone. As ham, you have the advantage of being licensed to use certain frequencies, and likely have the radio to go with those frequencies. So you can use it to call for help. If you can't get through with amateur radio, that license doesn't give you super-communication privileges. The bit about "I better modify my radio just in case there's an emergency" is just the talk of someone playing at emergency communication. If you didn't have a ham license, you wouldn't be giving any of this consideration. Yet, because you do, you think you have an absolute need to call in an emergency, instead of maybe being helpful with your hobby transceiver. If you can call in an emergency via ham radio, that's great. But the minute you go beyond amateur radio, not only do you suggest that ham radio isn't useful in emergencies, but you step down to being just like any other citizen. And they don't worry about having bootleg radios around, just in case of an emergency. They don't even think in terms of being a "great communicator". Michael VE2BVW |
Dean Arthur ) writes:
So if I come upon a burning house, I may then, and only then, modify my radio to call for help. IF I have means to do so. Disabled as I am, I guess I must watch house burn and take occupants with it. N'est ce pas? Yes, because that's the situation most people would be in. Most people don't walk around with radio transceivers, so they'd run to a phone and call it in. Or in recent years, use their cellphone. As ham, you have the advantage of being licensed to use certain frequencies, and likely have the radio to go with those frequencies. So you can use it to call for help. If you can't get through with amateur radio, that license doesn't give you super-communication privileges. The bit about "I better modify my radio just in case there's an emergency" is just the talk of someone playing at emergency communication. If you didn't have a ham license, you wouldn't be giving any of this consideration. Yet, because you do, you think you have an absolute need to call in an emergency, instead of maybe being helpful with your hobby transceiver. If you can call in an emergency via ham radio, that's great. But the minute you go beyond amateur radio, not only do you suggest that ham radio isn't useful in emergencies, but you step down to being just like any other citizen. And they don't worry about having bootleg radios around, just in case of an emergency. They don't even think in terms of being a "great communicator". Michael VE2BVW |
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How would transmitting on FRS frequencies help in this situation? On the FRS frequencies, the only people I can communicate with, besides anyone that I have arranged to talk to, are the kids playing around with their toys and they aren't going to help in a "burning house" situation. However, ham frequencies are usually monitored and repeaters are more common. There is always the possibility of autopatch or some other ham to relay an emergency message. Guy P. Distaffen KB0SWS "Dean Arthur" wrote in message ... So if I come upon a burning house, I may then, and only then, modify my radio to call for help. IF I have means to do so. Disabled as I am, I guess I must watch house burn and take occupants with it. N'est ce pas? |
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How would transmitting on FRS frequencies help in this situation? On the FRS frequencies, the only people I can communicate with, besides anyone that I have arranged to talk to, are the kids playing around with their toys and they aren't going to help in a "burning house" situation. However, ham frequencies are usually monitored and repeaters are more common. There is always the possibility of autopatch or some other ham to relay an emergency message. Guy P. Distaffen KB0SWS "Dean Arthur" wrote in message ... So if I come upon a burning house, I may then, and only then, modify my radio to call for help. IF I have means to do so. Disabled as I am, I guess I must watch house burn and take occupants with it. N'est ce pas? |
Emergency Communications
In a real or simulated emergency, a person operating radio apparatus in the amateur radio service may only communicate with a radio station that is in the amateur radio service in order to transmit a message that relates to the real or simulated emergency on behalf of a person, government or relief organization." SOR/2000-78 VE9DEN thank you. "Alex de la Cuesta" wrote in message ... I think most of the dual band HT can cover the FRS frequencies. I have TH-F6A and VX-5R and they have this coverage for T/RX. The models that I mentioned belongs to Kenwood and Yaesu respectively. Also Motorola, Icom, Uniden, etc. has FRS radios mainly for FRS operation. Concerning the legalities, just read the rest of the postings... Have Fun and 73's DY1ULE "Neill Burkett" wrote in message ... besides the radio shack htx 420 / are there any other radios, preferably dual band tranceiver that can transmit on the FRS channels as well |
Emergency Communications
In a real or simulated emergency, a person operating radio apparatus in the amateur radio service may only communicate with a radio station that is in the amateur radio service in order to transmit a message that relates to the real or simulated emergency on behalf of a person, government or relief organization." SOR/2000-78 VE9DEN thank you. "Alex de la Cuesta" wrote in message ... I think most of the dual band HT can cover the FRS frequencies. I have TH-F6A and VX-5R and they have this coverage for T/RX. The models that I mentioned belongs to Kenwood and Yaesu respectively. Also Motorola, Icom, Uniden, etc. has FRS radios mainly for FRS operation. Concerning the legalities, just read the rest of the postings... Have Fun and 73's DY1ULE "Neill Burkett" wrote in message ... besides the radio shack htx 420 / are there any other radios, preferably dual band tranceiver that can transmit on the FRS channels as well |
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