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Old August 12th 03, 11:55 PM
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:54 -0600, Dean Arthur
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In emergencies, all restrictions are null and void.

Else one is condoning death an/or dismemberment because of 'man-made'
regulations.

I bet if your life were on the line you'd voluntarily give it up so as
not to violate the 'man-made' regulations. N'est ce pas?


Actually, the FCC regs make allowance for emergencies in various
services.

However, you should try legal means first even in an emergency.

Modifying gear ahead of time to transmit on frequencies you are not
licensed for would be at best, a legal gray area.

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:54 -0600, Dean Arthur
wrote:

In emergencies, all restrictions are null and void.

Else one is condoning death an/or dismemberment because of 'man-made'
regulations.

I bet if your life were on the line you'd voluntarily give it up so as
not to violate the 'man-made' regulations. N'est ce pas?


Actually, the FCC regs make allowance for emergencies in various
services.

However, you should try legal means first even in an emergency.

Modifying gear ahead of time to transmit on frequencies you are not
licensed for would be at best, a legal gray area.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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Old August 12th 03, 08:32 PM
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In emergencies, all restrictions are null and void.

Else one is condoning death an/or dismemberment because of 'man-made'
regulations.

I bet if your life were on the line you'd voluntarily give it up so as
not to violate the 'man-made' regulations. N'est ce pas?

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Old August 7th 03, 02:31 AM
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Power has nothing really to do with it to make it legal.
Any ham radio is not FCC type accepted to transmit on FRS.

"Dr. Anton Squeegee" wrote:

In article , Neill Burkett says...

besides the radio shack htx 420 / are there any other radios, preferably
dual band tranceiver that can transmit on the FRS channels as well


If there are, they won't be able to do so legally unless the
output power gets stepped down to FRS levels when the FRS channel is
selected.

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Old August 7th 03, 02:57 AM
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In article , Mark V. Russo says...

Power has nothing really to do with it to make it legal.


I beg to differ. FRS is, by FCC regulation, limited to a maximum
of 500mW ERP, and an antenna that is fixed/non-modifiable. Any
transmitter above that power level on FRS frequencies is very much
illegal.

Any ham radio is not FCC type accepted to transmit on FRS.


As I found out later after reading the FRS page at the FCC. I had
neglected to mention it before because I was unaware of it.


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Old August 8th 03, 12:04 AM
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I was just stating using a ham radio what ever the power level is not legal
on FRS.
73

"Dr. Anton Squeegee" wrote:

In article , Mark V. Russo says...

Power has nothing really to do with it to make it legal.


I beg to differ. FRS is, by FCC regulation, limited to a maximum
of 500mW ERP, and an antenna that is fixed/non-modifiable. Any
transmitter above that power level on FRS frequencies is very much
illegal.

Any ham radio is not FCC type accepted to transmit on FRS.


As I found out later after reading the FRS page at the FCC. I had
neglected to mention it before because I was unaware of it.

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(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m
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Old August 9th 03, 12:05 AM
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Ah, darn. That means I can't use a 700 mW xcvr.

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Old August 9th 03, 12:05 AM
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Ah, darn. That means I can't use a 700 mW xcvr.

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Old August 9th 03, 12:19 AM
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Dr. Anton Squeegee wrote:
In article , Mark V. Russo says...


Power has nothing really to do with it to make it legal.



I beg to differ. FRS is, by FCC regulation, limited to a maximum
of 500mW ERP, and an antenna that is fixed/non-modifiable. Any
transmitter above that power level on FRS frequencies is very much
illegal.


That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html



Any ham radio is not FCC type accepted to transmit on FRS.


That is true.

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Old August 10th 03, 02:02 AM
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That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html


No, GMRS uses 5W on GMRS frequencies that happen to be
SHARED with FRS. The radios that cover both the GMRS unique
and FRS unique frequencies will ONLY use FRS power levels on
the FRS unique frequencies.

Mike




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