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Steveo November 19th 03 01:02 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
JJ wrote:
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly
so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T
E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no
doubt about it".

This is true. They don't even use 10 meters much.


BOY! How much you THINK you know! It gets used
a LOT! And some of it is in a "language" you are unlikely to
understand----you know, them pesky "dots and dashes" in addition to SSB,
AM and FM.

J

Are you kidding me, Jerry? You spen all of your time listening
for trucker's on 10.

Jerry Oxendine November 19th 03 01:19 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
JJ wrote:
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly
so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T
E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no
doubt about it".

This is true. They don't even use 10 meters much.


BOY! How much you THINK you know! It gets used
a LOT! And some of it is in a "language" you are unlikely to
understand----you know, them pesky "dots and dashes" in addition to SSB,
AM and FM.

J

Are you kidding me, Jerry? You spen all of your time listening
for trucker's on 10.


Again, it STILL shows how much you know about 10 meters. There are lots of
operators that have regular QSOs on 10 whether the "skip" is runnning or
not. Many groups gather on various frequencies for nightly chats. These
chat groups do so at ranges of 5-50 miles--sometimes more. We are NOT
always looking from
truckers. They are not supposed to be there anyhow.
But you can be sure of one thing: sources tell me that
there are more of them fixin' to get a "surprise". LOL!
J



Steveo November 19th 03 01:24 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
JJ wrote:
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type
slowly so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W
A N T E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb
lingo, "no doubt about it".

This is true. They don't even use 10 meters much.

BOY! How much you THINK you know! It gets used
a LOT! And some of it is in a "language" you are unlikely to
understand----you know, them pesky "dots and dashes" in addition to
SSB, AM and FM.

J

Are you kidding me, Jerry? You spen all of your time listening
for trucker's on 10.


Again, it STILL shows how much you know about 10 meters. There are lots
of operators that have regular QSOs on 10 whether the "skip" is runnning
or not. Many groups gather on various frequencies for nightly chats.
These chat groups do so at ranges of 5-50 miles--sometimes more.

Sounds like 11 meters.

We are
NOT always looking from
truckers.
They are not supposed to be there anyhow.

I agree.

But you can be sure of one thing: sources tell me that
there are more of them fixin' to get a "surprise". LOL!
J

Obsess much?

High SWR November 19th 03 01:56 AM

No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
things down.

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come on
back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt yer
gettin out, come on back...



High SWR




Robert Casey November 19th 03 05:27 AM

High SWR wrote:

No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
things down.

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come on
back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt yer
gettin out, come on back...


Yeah, right. I haven't heard lingo like that on any ham bands, even
since restructuring
happened......

CQ no kids, lids or space cadets......


Ryan, KC8PMX November 19th 03 09:58 AM

Okay.... I'll take a stab at this one...... Who the hell said it's required
to be long distance to be useful??

I know personally of some people around here in the Lower Peninsula who on a
regular basis communicate on 10 meters and one is near Midland and the other
is near Traverse City. And yes, these are pcta extra class licensee's.
Guesstimation of around 50-75 miles with 100-200 watts.......

It's not necessarily the quantity of the QSO, as much as the QUALITY of the
QSO in my book. If I can have a really enjoyable conversation with someone,
even to the level of earning the ragchew award, and to where I learn about
that person and their likes, dislikes, hobbies and interests and so on, that
to me is the most rewarding conversation.



--
Ryan KC8PMX

"Never take too life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."


This is true. They don't even use 10 meters much.


10 meters is quite dependent on the status of the sunspot cycle. When the
solar flux is good, the band is indeed heavily used but when the flux is
down, it won't support long distance communications.





Church of The Divine Looney LtD. November 19th 03 04:16 PM


"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...
High SWR wrote:

No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
things down.

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come

on
back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt

yer
gettin out, come on back...


Yeah, right. I haven't heard lingo like that on any ham bands, even
since restructuring
happened......


Check out 14.313 USB just about any weekend during daylight hours.

CQ no kids, lids or space cadets......


The *original* w2-y has been dead for over 36 Years.

Amazing how things NEVER EVER EVER change
on ham radio. Even their brand of "humor" is just as lame and
pathetic as it was 3 Decades ago.

The only REAL spark of potential inspiration to happen to ham radio was the
late
WA4D. (SK) Now there was a Ham Radio Messiah if there
ever was one !!!!! Of course, just like the other guy, he was
nailed to a tree by the bluebloods and stinky cheeses at
the ARRL, the Sanhedrin of Ham Radio. I count myself as very fortunate
having worked
ole Mike WA4D before he passed on. I even have one of his VERY
COLLECTABLE signed and autographed QSL Cards.
The famous QSL where he was standing outside the Laurel Md
FCC Monitoring station with a flag in hand and a ****-eating
grin on his face. That card is on my radio room wall in a brass and glass
picture frame with a light over it. It's right alongside my autographed
8 by 10 Photo of Bill and Hillary which I rcvd at a luncheon I was
invited to.

Is this World f-cked up or what??


Mike Coslo November 19th 03 08:58 PM



Church of The Divine Looney LtD. wrote:

The only REAL spark of potential inspiration to happen to ham radio was the
late
WA4D. (SK) Now there was a Ham Radio Messiah if there
ever was one !!!!! Of course, just like the other guy, he was
nailed to a tree by the bluebloods and stinky cheeses at
the ARRL, the Sanhedrin of Ham Radio. I count myself as very fortunate
having worked ole Mike WA4D before he passed on.


Okay, this sounds like a interesting story. Do elaborate please!

- mike KB3EIA -


Stephen M.H. Lawrence November 20th 03 04:18 PM

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN

"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...
| High SWR wrote:
|
| No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
| things down.
|
| CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come
on
| back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt yer
| gettin out, come on back...
|
|
| Yeah, right. I haven't heard lingo like that on any ham bands, even
| since restructuring
| happened......
|
| CQ no kids, lids or space cadets......
|


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Robert Casey November 20th 03 08:54 PM

Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.


Right now (nov 20 20:50 zulu) on 28.085 I hear CB like comms (AM).
Sounds as
crowded as a regular legal CB channel. None of it really copyable, with
all the
power mics and ratchet-jaw lingo. QTH in NNJ, nothing over S3.


Robert Casey November 20th 03 08:58 PM

Robert Casey wrote:

High SWR wrote:

No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in
dumbing things down.

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on,
come on back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds.
No Doubt yer gettin out, come on back...


Yeah, right. I haven't heard lingo like that on any ham bands, even
since restructuring
happened......


Exception: Right now on 28.085 I hear CB like comms in AM mode. But
none sound like
hams. Besides AM isn't permitted here, this is a data/code subband.



Brian Hill November 20th 03 11:36 PM

Oh! Boy!
--
73 and good DXing!

Brian's Radio Universe
http://home.jps.net/~jonnysocko/

"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
I can't imagine any ham wanting to go back to meters after getting used to
LCD displays.
I have a 1 meter 2 metre radio, but it's pretty old.


-Barry




Steveo November 21st 03 12:29 AM

Robert Casey wrote:
Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.


Right now (nov 20 20:50 zulu) on 28.085 I hear CB like comms (AM).
Sounds as
crowded as a regular legal CB channel. None of it really copyable, with
all the
power mics and ratchet-jaw lingo. QTH in NNJ, nothing over S3.

You speak Spanish? ;)

Jerry Oxendine November 21st 03 02:50 AM


"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
link.net...
One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN




And YOU can help! Get out there and listen on the road.
Get the tag # of the tractor (not of the trailer), date, time,
highway, milepost or exit number. Send this info to .
Make a difference: this is how those
other truckers got warned--individual hams who quietly
listened and accurately reported the above data. RH will
then respond IF, again, the info is accurate. Each ham
can make a difference and stop that "tan-fer thar, drivah,
ah know you rah't, fer-tan thar SQUEAK!!" If we don't, we will eventually
hear them beeping and squeaking their
way along on 17 Meters.

The way to "trap" a driver is to quietly cruise along. Do NOT talk to them
or get into an argument! Simply overtake a trucker who *may* be operating
on 28.085 AM. As you pass, or he passes you, he may be curious
about "them 'funny antenners' thar" and comment to you
about it (or other truckers). It is then you copy down the
tag # on the FRONT of the tractor, the DOT # (this confirms the identity of
the truck), the direction of travel and milepost (or exit), date and time.
Also the company name. Send it in! Done correctly, the "man" will send out
a warning notice to the company holding THEM responsible for their drivers'
actions. It is legal and enforc-able.

73

Jerry


73

Jerry

"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...
| High SWR wrote:
|
| No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
| things down.
|
| CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come
on
| back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt

yer
| gettin out, come on back...
|
|
| Yeah, right. I haven't heard lingo like that on any ham bands, even
| since restructuring
| happened......
|
| CQ no kids, lids or space cadets......
|


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BDK November 21st 03 06:33 AM

In article , moparholic@hotmail-
nospam-.com says...
Robert Casey wrote:
Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.


Right now (nov 20 20:50 zulu) on 28.085 I hear CB like comms (AM).
Sounds as
crowded as a regular legal CB channel. None of it really copyable, with
all the
power mics and ratchet-jaw lingo. QTH in NNJ, nothing over S3.

You speak Spanish? ;)


Oooooooooohla! Oooooooohla!

BDK

AntiKeyclown November 21st 03 05:00 PM

Steveo wrote in message ...
Robert Casey wrote:
Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.


Right now (nov 20 20:50 zulu) on 28.085 I hear CB like comms (AM).
Sounds as
crowded as a regular legal CB channel. None of it really copyable, with
all the
power mics and ratchet-jaw lingo. QTH in NNJ, nothing over S3.

You speak Spanish? ;)


He might not, but you speak FAGLISH...you rimmer.

FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture,
sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for
sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of
selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio
frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any
frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz.

Richard Cranium November 22nd 03 12:03 AM

(AntiKeyclown) wrote in message . com...
Steveo wrote in message ...
Robert Casey wrote:
Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.


Right now (nov 20 20:50 zulu) on 28.085 I hear CB like comms (AM).
Sounds as
crowded as a regular legal CB channel. None of it really copyable, with
all the
power mics and ratchet-jaw lingo. QTH in NNJ, nothing over S3.

You speak Spanish? ;)


He might not, but you speak FAGLISH...you rimmer.

FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture,
sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for
sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of
selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio
frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any
frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz.


Poor obcessed Georgie-girl Busch WA3MOJ. He simply cannot have a civil
conversation. Ever. He has to push his perverted gay agenda all the
time.

Amplifiers are not illegal. Certain uses of certain equipment may be
considered illegal.

Georgie-girl's use of a computer in a public newsgroup should be
considered illegal!

Richard Cranium November 22nd 03 12:06 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message ...
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
link.net...
One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN




And YOU can help! Get out there and listen on the road.
Get the tag # of the tractor (not of the trailer), date, time,
highway, milepost or exit number. Send this info to .
Make a difference: this is how those
other truckers got warned--individual hams who quietly
listened and accurately reported the above data. RH will
then respond IF, again, the info is accurate. Each ham
can make a difference and stop that "tan-fer thar, drivah,
ah know you rah't, fer-tan thar SQUEAK!!" If we don't, we will eventually
hear them beeping and squeaking their
way along on 17 Meters.

The way to "trap" a driver is to quietly cruise along. Do NOT talk to them
or get into an argument! Simply overtake a trucker who *may* be operating
on 28.085 AM. As you pass, or he passes you, he may be curious
about "them 'funny antenners' thar" and comment to you
about it (or other truckers). It is then you copy down the
tag # on the FRONT of the tractor, the DOT # (this confirms the identity of
the truck), the direction of travel and milepost (or exit), date and time.
Also the company name. Send it in! Done correctly, the "man" will send out
a warning notice to the company holding THEM responsible for their drivers'
actions. It is legal and enforc-able.

73

Jerry


Great idea, Jerry! Pile Riley's desk full with all sorts of false
reports so he won't believe any of you!

*may*?? You better be damned certain when you file a report!
Entrapment is also a crime, goodbuddy.

Dee D. Flint November 22nd 03 07:17 PM


"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
om...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message

...
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
link.net...
One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN




And YOU can help! Get out there and listen on the road.
Get the tag # of the tractor (not of the trailer), date, time,
highway, milepost or exit number. Send this info to .
Make a difference: this is how those
other truckers got warned--individual hams who quietly
listened and accurately reported the above data. RH will
then respond IF, again, the info is accurate. Each ham
can make a difference and stop that "tan-fer thar, drivah,
ah know you rah't, fer-tan thar SQUEAK!!" If we don't, we will

eventually
hear them beeping and squeaking their
way along on 17 Meters.

The way to "trap" a driver is to quietly cruise along. Do NOT talk to

them
or get into an argument! Simply overtake a trucker who *may* be

operating
on 28.085 AM. As you pass, or he passes you, he may be curious
about "them 'funny antenners' thar" and comment to you
about it (or other truckers). It is then you copy down the
tag # on the FRONT of the tractor, the DOT # (this confirms the identity

of
the truck), the direction of travel and milepost (or exit), date and

time.
Also the company name. Send it in! Done correctly, the "man" will send

out
a warning notice to the company holding THEM responsible for their

drivers'
actions. It is legal and enforc-able.

73

Jerry


Great idea, Jerry! Pile Riley's desk full with all sorts of false
reports so he won't believe any of you!

*may*?? You better be damned certain when you file a report!
Entrapment is also a crime, goodbuddy.


If you are just observing (and reporting what you hear and see) and not
talking, that is not entrapment.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Jerry Oxendine November 22nd 03 07:54 PM


"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
gy.com...

"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
om...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message

...
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
link.net...
One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN



And YOU can help! Get out there and listen on the road.
Get the tag # of the tractor (not of the trailer), date, time,
highway, milepost or exit number. Send this info to

..
Make a difference: this is how those
other truckers got warned--individual hams who quietly
listened and accurately reported the above data. RH will
then respond IF, again, the info is accurate. Each ham
can make a difference and stop that "tan-fer thar, drivah,
ah know you rah't, fer-tan thar SQUEAK!!" If we don't, we will

eventually
hear them beeping and squeaking their
way along on 17 Meters.

The way to "trap" a driver is to quietly cruise along. Do NOT talk

to
them
or get into an argument! Simply overtake a trucker who *may* be

operating
on 28.085 AM. As you pass, or he passes you, he may be curious
about "them 'funny antenners' thar" and comment to you
about it (or other truckers). It is then you copy down the
tag # on the FRONT of the tractor, the DOT # (this confirms the

identity
of
the truck), the direction of travel and milepost (or exit), date and

time.
Also the company name. Send it in! Done correctly, the "man" will send

out
a warning notice to the company holding THEM responsible for their

drivers'
actions. It is legal and enforc-able.

73

Jerry


Great idea, Jerry! Pile Riley's desk full with all sorts of false
reports so he won't believe any of you!

*may*?? You better be damned certain when you file a report!
Entrapment is also a crime, goodbuddy.


If you are just observing (and reporting what you hear and see) and not
talking, that is not entrapment.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


EXACTLY!! You are simply a "witness" or a "bystander". You have not done
anything to entrap
anybody. Ain't it neat? LOL!~

Jerry




Robert Casey November 23rd 03 12:09 AM






You speak Spanish? ;)



No, but that could explain my inability to copy any of the comms.
Foreign languages all sound like random noise to me.


JJ November 24th 03 04:27 AM

Dickiebird Craniumless slobbered over his keyboard and blathered:



*may*?? You better be damned certain when you file a report!
Entrapment is also a crime, goodbuddy.


You need to get out there and see if you can "entrap" a brain, goodbuddy.


JJ November 24th 03 04:31 AM

Jerry Oxendine wrote:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
gy.com...

"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
.com...

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message


t...

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
arthlink.net...

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN



And YOU can help! Get out there and listen on the road.
Get the tag # of the tractor (not of the trailer), date, time,
highway, milepost or exit number. Send this info to


.

Make a difference: this is how those
other truckers got warned--individual hams who quietly
listened and accurately reported the above data. RH will
then respond IF, again, the info is accurate. Each ham
can make a difference and stop that "tan-fer thar, drivah,
ah know you rah't, fer-tan thar SQUEAK!!" If we don't, we will


eventually

hear them beeping and squeaking their
way along on 17 Meters.

The way to "trap" a driver is to quietly cruise along. Do NOT talk


to

them

or get into an argument! Simply overtake a trucker who *may* be


operating

on 28.085 AM. As you pass, or he passes you, he may be curious
about "them 'funny antenners' thar" and comment to you
about it (or other truckers). It is then you copy down the
tag # on the FRONT of the tractor, the DOT # (this confirms the


identity

of

the truck), the direction of travel and milepost (or exit), date and


time.

Also the company name. Send it in! Done correctly, the "man" will send


out

a warning notice to the company holding THEM responsible for their


drivers'

actions. It is legal and enforc-able.

73

Jerry

Great idea, Jerry! Pile Riley's desk full with all sorts of false
reports so he won't believe any of you!

*may*?? You better be damned certain when you file a report!
Entrapment is also a crime, goodbuddy.


If you are just observing (and reporting what you hear and see) and not
talking, that is not entrapment.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



EXACTLY!! You are simply a "witness" or a "bystander". You have not done
anything to entrap
anybody. Ain't it neat? LOL!~

Jerry



It is really difficult to explain simple logic to someone (dickhead
crainumless) who can't even find the 10 meter band.


Doug Davis December 6th 03 10:15 AM

Yes, he always has a poopy smell about him :)

Ellen


"jim" wrote in message
...


JJ wrote:
charlesb wrote:

"OOTMAN" wrote in message
...

W hy in hell would they want it back??????????



Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the
non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL


The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think
they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made
such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out.


equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband?
guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your
post...




Doug Davis December 6th 03 10:19 AM

I don't think you can speak for all hams, Mr. Poopy Butt :)

Peace on Earth to you,

Ellen



"JJ" wrote in message
...
gw wrote:
JJ wrote in message

...

jim wrote:



JJ wrote:


charlesb wrote:


"OOTMAN" wrote in message
...


W hy in hell would they want it back??????????



Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All

the
non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL



The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think
they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have
made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out.


equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband?
guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your
post...


In my world, *real* hams don't (notice I put the ' in don't) freeband
(there is no "freeband" in case you haven't noticed), just those cb
types who happen to hold a ham license. So much for your post...........




well if the hams took back 11 meters....what would they do about all
the skip talkers on channel 6???? those old black men would not like
you hammies trying to run them off and they would jump up and down and
stomp a radiowave mudhole in the back of your necks and walk it
dry.........no doubt about it......


You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly so
you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T
E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no
doubt about it".




Doug Davis December 6th 03 10:20 AM

All sailors don't cuss, Mr. Poopy Butt :)

Peace on Earth to you,

Ellen



"Radioman" wrote in message
...
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly

so
you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T
E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no
doubt about it".


Speak for yourself, OM!

Charles Brabham, N5PVL


Do you want it back? You can still use CB if you have an amateur ticket.
You're just not supposed to use your ham radio on it or cuss like a

sailor.



Doug Davis December 6th 03 10:27 AM

Hams are getting old and dying off; soon all the bands will belong to CBers.

Ellen


"High SWR" wrote in message
news:I5Aub.182685$9E1.958199@attbi_s52...
No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
things down.

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come on
back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt yer
gettin out, come on back...



High SWR






Doug Davis December 6th 03 10:35 AM

You are getting even stinkier, Mr. Poopy Butt :)

Peace on Earth to you,

Ellen


"JJ" wrote in message
...
Jerry Oxendine wrote:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
gy.com...

"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
.com...

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message

t...

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
arthlink.net...

One day 3 weeks ago, I listened from 28.000 - 28.150, and
I counted over a dozen of 'em. Truckers in particular have been
"using" our ten - meter band illegally, and Riley Hollingsworth
has been doing something about it. Make no mistake, this is
happening.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN



And YOU can help! Get out there and listen on the road.
Get the tag # of the tractor (not of the trailer), date, time,
highway, milepost or exit number. Send this info to


.

Make a difference: this is how those
other truckers got warned--individual hams who quietly
listened and accurately reported the above data. RH will
then respond IF, again, the info is accurate. Each ham
can make a difference and stop that "tan-fer thar, drivah,
ah know you rah't, fer-tan thar SQUEAK!!" If we don't, we will

eventually

hear them beeping and squeaking their
way along on 17 Meters.

The way to "trap" a driver is to quietly cruise along. Do NOT talk


to

them

or get into an argument! Simply overtake a trucker who *may* be

operating

on 28.085 AM. As you pass, or he passes you, he may be curious
about "them 'funny antenners' thar" and comment to you
about it (or other truckers). It is then you copy down the
tag # on the FRONT of the tractor, the DOT # (this confirms the


identity

of

the truck), the direction of travel and milepost (or exit), date and

time.

Also the company name. Send it in! Done correctly, the "man" will send

out

a warning notice to the company holding THEM responsible for their

drivers'

actions. It is legal and enforc-able.

73

Jerry

Great idea, Jerry! Pile Riley's desk full with all sorts of false
reports so he won't believe any of you!

*may*?? You better be damned certain when you file a report!
Entrapment is also a crime, goodbuddy.

If you are just observing (and reporting what you hear and see) and not
talking, that is not entrapment.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



EXACTLY!! You are simply a "witness" or a "bystander". You have not

done
anything to entrap
anybody. Ain't it neat? LOL!~

Jerry



It is really difficult to explain simple logic to someone (dickhead
crainumless) who can't even find the 10 meter band.




Doug Davis December 6th 03 10:37 AM

What frequency do they use them on?

Ellen


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Barry OGrady wrote:
I can't imagine any ham wanting to go back to meters after getting used
to LCD displays. I have a 1 meter 2 metre radio, but it's pretty old.

Some of the Elmers still use sun dials.




Susie Q December 6th 03 02:24 PM

hey doug, ellen or whoever you are...
there are a few hams in my area who just got there ham ticket. There are two
that are 13 and one that is14 years old.
Seems you have a long wait.

Doug Davis wrote:

Hams are getting old and dying off; soon all the bands will belong to CBers.

Ellen

"High SWR" wrote in message
news:I5Aub.182685$9E1.958199@attbi_s52...
No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
things down.

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come on
back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt yer
gettin out, come on back...



High SWR





Radioman December 6th 03 03:55 PM

Doug Davis wrote:

All sailors don't cuss, Mr. Poopy Butt :)

Peace on Earth to you,

Ellen



Are you Doug or Ellen?

Why do you respond to 3 week old posts? You troll you.

Night Ranger December 6th 03 05:38 PM

High SWR wrote in message news:I5Aub.182685$9E1.958199@attbi_s52...
No, the CB'ers get the Ham bands. Thanks ARRL for your work in dumbing
things down.

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker, any 20 meter good-buddies got yer ears on, come on
back. Ten-Four, Ten-Four, good buddy, Got ya twenty pounds. No Doubt yer
gettin out, come on back...



High SWR


Don't forget about the bought and paid for FCC. Viacom, Disney, Sony,
Clear Channel Communications, and Media One Group have paid good
money to own the FCC, and they want their money's worth.

See;

"Rotten, Old-Fashioned Corruption at the FCC"
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16032

and

"The FCC?s Rapidly Revolving Door"

http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtawe...L3=0&L4=0&L5=0

and

"The FCC's Strange Non-Profit"
http://www.openairwaves.org/telecom/report.aspx?aid=31

and

"Behind Closed Doors: Top Broadcasters Met 71 Times With FCC
Officials"
http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtawe...L3=0&L4=0&L5=0

JJ December 6th 03 11:54 PM

Doug Davis wrote:

I don't think you can speak for all hams, Mr. Poopy Butt :)

Peace on Earth to you,

Ellen


Since you include so many posting from so many different individuals it
is difficult to determine just who you commenting to.
Name me some hams who would like to have 11 meters back.


JJ December 6th 03 11:57 PM

Radioman wrote:

Doug Davis wrote:

All sailors don't cuss, Mr. Poopy Butt :)

Peace on Earth to you,

Ellen




Are you Doug or Ellen?

Why do you respond to 3 week old posts? You troll you.


He/she/it just got out of diapers (the 'poopy butt' gives it away), and
dosen't know much about the Internet yet.


[email protected] December 11th 03 09:25 PM

In rec.radio.amateur.misc JJ wrote:

The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think
they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made
such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out.


11M was sparsely used because it was not harmonically related to the
other HF bands (i.e., required a separate VFO band and couldn't be
multiplied to other HF bands). With today's synthesized radios, 11M
would be no more difficult to implement than any other band.

When the hams had 11M, they could also legally full duplex 10M and 11M
simultaneously for a real 2X conversation like the telephone.

And yes, I was on the 11M ham band in those days.

73 de Don, K6LTS
email: take the garbage out.


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