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Do Hams get 11 Meters Back
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"No Code, No Ham" wrote:
(WA8ULX) wrote in : Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there Free Handout Ham Licenses? There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands. 11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now. -snippage- Take that cross posted stink bait outta' here, chump. -- GO# 40 |
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. Now that Im a coded tech, I still say, rid the code test. You may say it dumbs it down, to me it makes for more conversation and more to converse with. Who wants to talk on a piece of equipment that cost $1000 + but no-one to hear you? Why not let these CB'rs get there license so they can learn the principals of ham radio instead of bootlegging. I realise that you guys are all stuck in 1950, but WAKE UP!!!!!! This is 2003!!!!! This reminds me, Wasnt it quite a few years ago that a bunch of HAMS like yourselves were complaining about solid-state over tube? Oh my god! There dumbing down radio with RF transistors!!!! What is next!!!!! Quit whining and get involved in making the radio better for all. All you pro-coders are just wasting your breath. They still make tubes, but you have a choice if you want to use tube or transistor equipment. Isnt that nice, To have a choice? I chose to advance in my hobby by going to Extra soon, and I dont need a code holding me back. Do you actually think that the bad CB'rs are going to go get a license so they can JAM and CUSS at you? NO!!! The good ones will! So where is the FREE at? Cya, wouldnt want to be ya. 73 KF6FOZ On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:44:19 -0000, "No Code, No Ham" wrote: (WA8ULX) wrote in : Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there Free Handout Ham Licenses? There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands. 11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now. ARRL plan back fired on them. They worked to dumb things done in order to produce more licensee's who might join the organization and fill the corporate bank accounts, but instead, they got a bunch of idiots who don't care bacause getting a license is easy now and when you don't have to work to get the benefits, the benefits you get don't mean a whole lot. All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio Service. No Code.... No Ham! |
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. Now that Im a coded tech, I still say, rid the code test. You may say it dumbs it down, to me it makes for more conversation and more to converse with. Who wants to talk on a piece of equipment that cost $1000 + but no-one to hear you? Why not let these CB'rs get there license so they can learn the principals of ham radio instead of bootlegging. I realise that you guys are all stuck in 1950, but WAKE UP!!!!!! This is 2003!!!!! This reminds me, Wasnt it quite a few years ago that a bunch of HAMS like yourselves were complaining about solid-state over tube? Oh my god! There dumbing down radio with RF transistors!!!! What is next!!!!! Quit whining and get involved in making the radio better for all. All you pro-coders are just wasting your breath. They still make tubes, but you have a choice if you want to use tube or transistor equipment. Isnt that nice, To have a choice? I chose to advance in my hobby by going to Extra soon, and I dont need a code holding me back. Do you actually think that the bad CB'rs are going to go get a license so they can JAM and CUSS at you? NO!!! The good ones will! So where is the FREE at? Cya, wouldnt want to be ya. 73 KF6FOZ On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:44:19 -0000, "No Code, No Ham" wrote: (WA8ULX) wrote in : Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there Free Handout Ham Licenses? There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands. 11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now. ARRL plan back fired on them. They worked to dumb things done in order to produce more licensee's who might join the organization and fill the corporate bank accounts, but instead, they got a bunch of idiots who don't care bacause getting a license is easy now and when you don't have to work to get the benefits, the benefits you get don't mean a whole lot. All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio Service. No Code.... No Ham! |
West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test? -- GO# 40 |
West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test? -- GO# 40 |
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Just what we need. More CB'ers on ham radio. The Ham bands have gone to hell
since the ARRL BS of the seventies. I agree, get rid of the CW but go back to the written test of the fifities. And out law the Bash crap. But heck, I'm only dreaming. It will NEVER happen. Glad I was run off by the CB'ers. I don't miss that BS. Your guy's loss. |
Just what we need. More CB'ers on ham radio. The Ham bands have gone to hell
since the ARRL BS of the seventies. I agree, get rid of the CW but go back to the written test of the fifities. And out law the Bash crap. But heck, I'm only dreaming. It will NEVER happen. Glad I was run off by the CB'ers. I don't miss that BS. Your guy's loss. |
No, Mopar, the VEs charge. It used to be free at the FCC, but, for me at
least, that meant a 60 mile trip (120 miles round trip) to the FCC in Buffalo, NY, and one minute of perfect copy at 20 words per minute. When I had dropped my tickets and decided to retest in 1993, I believe it was under $6.00 for the session. That was 20 words per minute, but multiple guess. Now it is 5 words per minute, but the testing charge is considerably higher (don't ask me, I don't know. I simply showed up for the tests in '93. You don't have to score 100%). So, while someone may pay for the exam, that 120 mile round trip savings is worth something. Don't worry too much though. I hear the FCC is going to try to package the licenses in boxes of Cracker Jax. :) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim wrote in message ... wrote: West Coast Radio wrote: Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test? Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat.. -- GO# 40 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
No, Mopar, the VEs charge. It used to be free at the FCC, but, for me at
least, that meant a 60 mile trip (120 miles round trip) to the FCC in Buffalo, NY, and one minute of perfect copy at 20 words per minute. When I had dropped my tickets and decided to retest in 1993, I believe it was under $6.00 for the session. That was 20 words per minute, but multiple guess. Now it is 5 words per minute, but the testing charge is considerably higher (don't ask me, I don't know. I simply showed up for the tests in '93. You don't have to score 100%). So, while someone may pay for the exam, that 120 mile round trip savings is worth something. Don't worry too much though. I hear the FCC is going to try to package the licenses in boxes of Cracker Jax. :) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim wrote in message ... wrote: West Coast Radio wrote: Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test? Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat.. -- GO# 40 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
No, Mopar, the VEs charge. It used to be free at the FCC, but, for me at least, that meant a 60 mile trip (120 miles round trip) to the FCC in Buffalo, NY, and one minute of perfect copy at 20 words per minute. When I had dropped my tickets and decided to retest in 1993, I believe it was under $6.00 for the session. That was 20 words per minute, but multiple guess. Now it is 5 words per minute, but the testing charge is considerably higher (don't ask me, I don't know. I simply showed up for the tests in '93. You don't have to score 100%). So, while someone may pay for the exam, that 120 mile round trip savings is worth something. Don't worry too much though. I hear the FCC is going to try to package the licenses in boxes of Cracker Jax. :) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim wrote in message ... wrote: West Coast Radio wrote: Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test? Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat.. They don't have me worried yet, Jim. Note to self: buy some Cracker Jax stock. Or they will come with the radio, you take the te$t and mail it back with a check. -- GO# 40 |
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
No, Mopar, the VEs charge. It used to be free at the FCC, but, for me at least, that meant a 60 mile trip (120 miles round trip) to the FCC in Buffalo, NY, and one minute of perfect copy at 20 words per minute. When I had dropped my tickets and decided to retest in 1993, I believe it was under $6.00 for the session. That was 20 words per minute, but multiple guess. Now it is 5 words per minute, but the testing charge is considerably higher (don't ask me, I don't know. I simply showed up for the tests in '93. You don't have to score 100%). So, while someone may pay for the exam, that 120 mile round trip savings is worth something. Don't worry too much though. I hear the FCC is going to try to package the licenses in boxes of Cracker Jax. :) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim wrote in message ... wrote: West Coast Radio wrote: Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to pay to get my no-code ticket. You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test? Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat.. They don't have me worried yet, Jim. Note to self: buy some Cracker Jax stock. Or they will come with the radio, you take the te$t and mail it back with a check. -- GO# 40 |
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jim wrote:
wrote: "No Code, No Ham" wrote: (WA8ULX) wrote in : Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there Free Handout Ham Licenses? There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands. 11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now. -snippage- Take that cross posted stink bait outta' here, chump. hey mopar did ya get to see the new audioslave video on mtv showing challengers and coronets? brings back memories of the old mans '70 coronet 440 with a 383....first car i broke a 100 in.... No I didn't Jim, I usually scan right past mtv. What is it a music video from a band called audioslave? -- GO# 40 |
jim wrote:
wrote: "No Code, No Ham" wrote: (WA8ULX) wrote in : Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there Free Handout Ham Licenses? There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands. 11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now. -snippage- Take that cross posted stink bait outta' here, chump. hey mopar did ya get to see the new audioslave video on mtv showing challengers and coronets? brings back memories of the old mans '70 coronet 440 with a 383....first car i broke a 100 in.... No I didn't Jim, I usually scan right past mtv. What is it a music video from a band called audioslave? -- GO# 40 |
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But gee, dontcha know the arrl is blameless? Of course they only take credit for good news/stuff. (sarcasm mode off) -- Ryan, KC8PMX FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!) --. --- -.. ... .- -. --. . .-.. ... .- .-. . ..-. .. .-. . ..-. ... --. .... - . .-. ... All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio Service. No Code.... No Ham! |
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But gee, dontcha know the arrl is blameless? Of course they only take credit for good news/stuff. (sarcasm mode off) -- Ryan, KC8PMX FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!) --. --- -.. ... .- -. --. . .-.. ... .- .-. . ..-. .. .-. . ..-. ... --. .... - . .-. ... All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio Service. No Code.... No Ham! |
W hy in hell would they want it back??????????
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"OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
charlesb wrote:
"OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL But 10 meters is rarely crowded, getting 11 back, though nice, isn't that critical. More bandwidth on 20 or 40 I would prefer. |
charlesb wrote:
"OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out. |
JJ wrote: charlesb wrote: "OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out. equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband? guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your post... |
jim wrote:
JJ wrote: charlesb wrote: "OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out. equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband? guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your post... In my world, *real* hams don't (notice I put the ' in don't) freeband (there is no "freeband" in case you haven't noticed), just those cb types who happen to hold a ham license. So much for your post........... |
JJ wrote: jim wrote: JJ wrote: charlesb wrote: "OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out. equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband? guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your post... In my world, *real* hams don't (notice I put the ' in don't) freeband (there is no "freeband" in case you haven't noticed), just those cb types who happen to hold a ham license. So much for your post........... lol you are a bigot.... |
JJ wrote in message ...
jim wrote: JJ wrote: charlesb wrote: "OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out. equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband? guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your post... In my world, *real* hams don't (notice I put the ' in don't) freeband (there is no "freeband" in case you haven't noticed), just those cb types who happen to hold a ham license. So much for your post........... "Your" world does not equal the "real" world, JJ, in case you haven't noticed. So much for your TROLL. Still can't find 10 meters? I know where it is, if you need help! |
JJ wrote in message ...
jim wrote: JJ wrote: charlesb wrote: "OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out. equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband? guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your post... In my world, *real* hams don't (notice I put the ' in don't) freeband (there is no "freeband" in case you haven't noticed), just those cb types who happen to hold a ham license. So much for your post........... well if the hams took back 11 meters....what would they do about all the skip talkers on channel 6???? those old black men would not like you hammies trying to run them off and they would jump up and down and stomp a radiowave mudhole in the back of your necks and walk it dry.........no doubt about it...... |
gw wrote:
JJ wrote in message ... jim wrote: JJ wrote: charlesb wrote: "OOTMAN" wrote in message ... W hy in hell would they want it back?????????? Better utilization of HF spectrum, and more spectrum for hams. All the non-ham stuff should be VHF or UHF, for the obvious reason. Charles Brabham, N5PVL The hams hardly used 11 meters when they had it, what makes you think they would use it now if they got it back? Besides, the cbers have made such a mess of it, it would take years to clean the filth out. equating cb'ers and filth eh? in your limited world hams dont freeband? guess you havn't heard the cw contests on 11 meters. so much for your post... In my world, *real* hams don't (notice I put the ' in don't) freeband (there is no "freeband" in case you haven't noticed), just those cb types who happen to hold a ham license. So much for your post........... well if the hams took back 11 meters....what would they do about all the skip talkers on channel 6???? those old black men would not like you hammies trying to run them off and they would jump up and down and stomp a radiowave mudhole in the back of your necks and walk it dry.........no doubt about it...... You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no doubt about it". |
"JJ" wrote in message ... You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no doubt about it". Speak for yourself, OM! Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly so
you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no doubt about it". Speak for yourself, OM! Charles Brabham, N5PVL Do you want it back? You can still use CB if you have an amateur ticket. You're just not supposed to use your ham radio on it or cuss like a sailor. |
JJ wrote:
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no doubt about it". This is true. They don't even use 10 meters much. |
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"Steveo" wrote in message ... JJ wrote: You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no doubt about it". This is true. They don't even use 10 meters much. 10 meters is quite dependent on the status of the sunspot cycle. When the solar flux is good, the band is indeed heavily used but when the flux is down, it won't support long distance communications. |
"Steveo" wrote in message ... JJ wrote: You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I will type slowly so you maybe can understand. T H E H A M S D O N O T W A N T E L E V E N M E T E R S B A C K. To use your silly cb lingo, "no doubt about it". This is true. They don't even use 10 meters much. BOY! How much you THINK you know! It gets used a LOT! And some of it is in a "language" you are unlikely to understand----you know, them pesky "dots and dashes" in addition to SSB, AM and FM. J |
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