In article ,
says...

"Ryan Breai" aka Gareth Alun Evans wrote in news:3fc86897_3@mk-nntp-
1.news.uk.worldonline.com:

A childish outburst from you.
Shame on you, Geoff.
Grow up, OM.

Your piecemeal replies are an attempt of self-aggrandisement which is
typical of paranoid tendancies.

Steady Geoff, you could end up in his fan club and he will adopt
anagrams of your name as his usenet persona.

I've already put Gaffe Bloke in the killfile just to be safe ;-)

--
Duncan Munro
http://www.duncanamps.com

"class_a_zpk_12wpm" t wrote
in message ...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:34:01 +0000, wrote:

haven't yet realised that you don't win a debate by bragging how big
your willie is.

or HOW MANY PEOPLE one has NOT trained to do the MAY2003/DEC2003 RAE?

or how many responses one has posted to the same article.
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;)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.

"class_a_zpk_12wpm" t wrote
in message ...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:34:01 +0000, wrote:

haven't yet realised that you don't win a debate by bragging how big
your willie is.

or HOW MANY PEOPLE one has NOT trained to do the MAY2003/DEC2003 RAE?


OK you win. I admit it, you did NOT train more people for the May 2003 and
Dec 2003 RAE than I did NOT train.

Seems a bit odd to me that you should be so proud of doing so little but
there is no accounting for test.

So, what did you win for training fewing people?

May be if we just pop you in the kill file with Gareth...................

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73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio

Duncan Munro wrote in
:

In article ,
says...

"Ryan Breai" aka Gareth Alun Evans wrote in
news:3fc86897_3@mk-nntp- 1.news.uk.worldonline.com:

A childish outburst from you.
Shame on you, Geoff.
Grow up, OM.

Your piecemeal replies are an attempt of self-aggrandisement which is
typical of paranoid tendancies.

Steady Geoff, you could end up in his fan club and he will adopt
anagrams of your name as his usenet persona.

I've already put Gaffe Bloke in the killfile just to be safe ;-)


Eeee, that's a good'un Duncan.

Have you spoken to your dad lately. I did say to him that I may be up in
the Islands soon, and was invited to drop in. It now seems that this isn't
going to happen, this year at least.

BTW, remember that Novell 3.11 that was so much hassle to install some 10
years back, it is still going, just keeps wearing disks out! (I think it is
on its third!)

BCNU

Geoff

In article ,
says...

Duncan Munro wrote in
:
I've already put Gaffe Bloke in the killfile just to be safe ;-)

Eeee, that's a good'un Duncan.

Have you spoken to your dad lately. I did say to him that I may be up in
the Islands soon, and was invited to drop in. It now seems that this isn't
going to happen, this year at least.

I spoke to him a couple of days ago, he says he will let me have one of
his HF rigs for Xmas. Not sure when I will get time to set anything up
though :-(

Do go and visit - you will enjoy the scenery, it's really something else
and very relaxing.

BTW, remember that Novell 3.11 that was so much hassle to install some 10
years back, it is still going, just keeps wearing disks out! (I think it is
on its third!)

Heh heh...

--
Duncan Munro
http://www.duncanamps.com

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:23:08 -0000, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

Seems a bit odd to me that you should be so proud of doing so little but

at least i didnt encourage anyone who can read to do
the m3 because ''its as easy as they say it is''

at least i encouraged anyone who can read to
aim high and keep going to get the a-licence.


there is no accounting for test.
TEST? what TEST would that be BRIAN.....THE MORSE TEST ?
(THE TEST YOU REFUSED TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH?)


So, what did you win for training fewing people?
who said anything about winning ?
i didnt know there was a competition on brian.

IT IS MY OPINION that yu are showing signs of
needing to be top-dog in your own little m3 world.



May be if we just pop you in the kill file with Gareth...................
ohhh typical response from someone who still hasnt been able
to accept his own double standards of refusing to recognise
morse code test but yet ran off to get an m3 licence by sitting
a farce joke fail-impossible morse appreciation/assessment.




time will come when those who are leading the way in lowering the
standard will be on the receiving end of the cb attitude that is
already present on the bands.

10-4!



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R:020211/1548Z @:GB7SOU.#48.GBR.EU #:40361 [SOUTHAMPTON] $:620832G7DTH

...

I've done the Morse
Assessment- it is as easy as they say. Even my 11 year old daughter passed
fair and square with NO PREPARATION and about an hours graft at the local
club.

The idea may fail but your only investment is to send an Email. Honest.

73

Brian


Extract from Bulletin sent on packet radio by someone @gb7sou
Feb 11 2002
The introductory text leads the reader to believe that the 'BRIAN'
signature at the end is someone who just might have two degrees.

"class_a_zpk_12wpm" t wrote
in message ...
May be if we just pop you in the kill file with
Gareth...................
ohhh typical response from someone who still hasnt been able
to accept his own double standards of refusing to recognise
morse code test but yet ran off to get an m3 licence by sitting
a farce joke fail-impossible morse appreciation/assessment.


OR, as is the case, the reaction of someone tired of your pointless
whinging.

The UK has a progressive licensing scheme, based on the FL, IL and Full
Licence.

The 5 wpm Morse requirement is no longer required in the UK, nor in an
increasing number of other countries.

CEPT has accepted that there should only be one class of CEPT licence-
without a Morse requirement.

The hobby in the UK has a bright future- new blood, a progressive licensing
scheme, and the "Beyond the RAE" initiative. Other countries look likely to
follow the UK lead in these areas.

You have been against all of the above but they have happened anyway but
you have still not learned your whinging is not productive.

Please, by all means, continue whinging to yourself- you clearly have
nothing positive to contribute to the hobby.


Brian

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:18:23 -0000, "Brian Reay"
wrote:


The 5 wpm Morse requirement is no longer required in the UK, nor in an
increasing number of other countries.
but refusing to sit the morse appreciation will
not allow someone to get an fl....and therefore no full.

therefore morse is still required and YOu are a LEAD INSTRUCTOR in
this requirment!





The hobby in the UK has a bright future- new blood, a progressive licensing
scheme, and the "Beyond the RAE" initiative. Other countries look likely to
follow the UK lead in these areas.
which rsgb publication is that from ?


You have been against all of the above but they have happened anyway but
you have still not learned your whinging is not productive.
and the result will become more evident in years to come.
perhaps then you might just notice.



Please, by all means, continue whinging to yourself- you clearly have
nothing positive to contribute to the hobby.
i have enciuraged people to get their a-licence BY WORKING FOR IT

rather than encoraging people to slide off into a system designed for
beginners!




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R:020211/1548Z @:GB7SOU.#48.GBR.EU #:40361 [SOUTHAMPTON] $:620832G7DTH

...

I've done the Morse
Assessment- it is as easy as they say. Even my 11 year old daughter passed
fair and square with NO PREPARATION and about an hours graft at the local
club.

The idea may fail but your only investment is to send an Email. Honest.

73

Brian


Extract from Bulletin sent on packet radio by someone @gb7sou
Feb 11 2002
The introductory text leads the reader to believe that the 'BRIAN'
signature at the end is someone who just might have two degrees.

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...

There is no incentive to progress beyond the Foundation Licence level.
The only advantage of going further is that you get access to the 10m
band; it will soon be of little interest during the sunspot minimum
years.

There are other incentives:

1.Use outside the UK.
2. Use of homebrew or converted kit.
3. Ability to supervise others / allow the passing of greetings
4. Most of all probably, the desire to progress.



Nobody adheres to the 10w power limit for the Foundation Licence.

"Nobody"- I know a number that do (or did, until they go their 2E so can
now use 50W).

Even in the RSCB's journal this month, there is a report of an MW3
openly admitting to running 50 watts.

And he was in the wrong.

Most run 100 watts.

Oh yes, the famous "Walt's Way" of measuring RF remotely.


The only purposes of introducing the Foundation Licence were (1) to
increase (in the short term) the RSCB's membership numbers and (2) to
provide a new market for commercially made, type approved radio
equipment.

IF that was the only reason, why are the RSGB pushing the IL, new RAE, and
"Beyond the RAE"?


Hardly progressive.

No, you would prefer to go back the (supposed) good old days, I assume.

--
73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...

There is no incentive to progress beyond the Foundation Licence level.

There may be a majority that stay at foundation level, but I, and quite a
few others on this newsgroup have since passed the IL and are taking the
full rae tommorow. Incentive is down to the individual. I personally want to
be able to contribute to the group at an ALMOST equal footing to yourself.

Nobody adheres to the 10w power limit for the Foundation Licence.
Even in the RSCB's journal this month, there is a report of an MW3
openly admitting to running 50 watts. Most run 100 watts.

With respect Walt, I think there is a very large generalisation in your
statement.One MW3 admitting to running 50 watts is a drop in the water
compared to the 5000+ M3s. May I respectfully ask what published data you
take the last statement from?

The Foundation licence may not be perfect, but it is here, and seems to be
working. Unsubstantiated comments like these are extremely disrespectful to
the large number of Foundation licence holders who operate their equipment
to licensing regulations.

Just my tuppence worth ;-)

Roll on tommorow :-0


Best 73 de Alan

M3TEC/2E1TEC