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Old January 25th 04, 07:16 PM
Arthur Harris
 
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The anonymous "KeyBoard In The Wilderness" wrote:
I write my government reps and the ARRL regularly -- do you ??


I did write ARRL when I was a member, and also spoke to their reps at club
meetings. But they always seemed more interested in justifying the positions
the League was committed to than listening to members' ideas.

There comes a time when you have to think and act for yourself. If the
League is going to pander to the "give me a free upgrade" crowd, then

let
that crowd support them. I dropped my membership a few years ago after
seeing the League's "re-structuring" proposal.


Well you can drop out and scream on the NG's or you can work with and thru
the ARRL to get things done.


I'm not screaming, just stating my opinion. I was a League member for many
years. But when they repeatedly take positions on important issues that I
think are wrong, why should I continue to support them? If they feel that
the long-time hams will always support them no matter what, they will
continue to ignore us and take us for granted. Perhaps if enough of the Old
Timers drop out, they will get the message.

I doubt the ARRL reads this NG.


I suspect a few of the ARRL crowd do read these NGs.

The ARRL has accomplihed much in the interests of Amateur Radio.


Not lately. They've also made some enormous blunders.

Art Harris N2AH


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Old January 25th 04, 07:53 PM
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"Arthur Harris" wrote in message
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The anonymous "KeyBoard In The Wilderness" wrote:
I write my government reps and the ARRL regularly -- do you ??


I did write ARRL when I was a member, and also spoke to their reps at club
meetings. But they always seemed more interested in justifying the

positions
the League was committed to than listening to members' ideas.


Did you try running for office yourself or, if you lacked time to run,
encouraging others with your views to run for office?

There comes a time when you have to think and act for yourself. If the
League is going to pander to the "give me a free upgrade" crowd, then

let
that crowd support them. I dropped my membership a few years ago after
seeing the League's "re-structuring" proposal.


Well you can drop out and scream on the NG's or you can work with and

thru
the ARRL to get things done.


I'm not screaming, just stating my opinion. I was a League member for many
years. But when they repeatedly take positions on important issues that I
think are wrong, why should I continue to support them? If they feel that
the long-time hams will always support them no matter what, they will
continue to ignore us and take us for granted. Perhaps if enough of the

Old
Timers drop out, they will get the message.


Did you try running for office yourself or, if you lacked time to run,
encouraging others with your views to run for office?

Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an even
more unbalanced viewpoint.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old January 25th 04, 10:44 PM
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...

Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an even
more unbalanced viewpoint.


Depends on your point of view. I'm going to encourage more cranky old
hams to drop out.
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Old January 25th 04, 10:59 PM
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"William" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new

people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an

even
more unbalanced viewpoint.


Depends on your point of view. I'm going to encourage more cranky old
hams to drop out.


Although new versus old does cause friction, the balance is still needed.
The new bring fresh enthusiasm and new ideas. The old have the experience
to weigh these ideas and modify them so they will work or to spot ideas that
have been tried in the past and known to fail. We need both old and new.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old January 26th 04, 01:08 PM
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...
"William" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new

people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an

even
more unbalanced viewpoint.


Depends on your point of view. I'm going to encourage more cranky old
hams to drop out.


Although new versus old does cause friction, the balance is still needed.
The new bring fresh enthusiasm and new ideas. The old have the experience
to weigh these ideas and modify them so they will work or to spot ideas that
have been tried in the past and known to fail. We need both old and new.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Here we go again with the demographics. The ARS is a geriatric service.

Too bad they took the birth date out of the database.


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Old January 26th 04, 02:01 PM
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William wrote:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...

"William" wrote in message
.com...

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message


igy.com...

Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new


people

coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an


even

more unbalanced viewpoint.

Depends on your point of view. I'm going to encourage more cranky old
hams to drop out.


Although new versus old does cause friction, the balance is still needed.
The new bring fresh enthusiasm and new ideas. The old have the experience
to weigh these ideas and modify them so they will work or to spot ideas that
have been tried in the past and known to fail. We need both old and new.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Here we go again with the demographics. The ARS is a geriatric service.

Too bad they took the birth date out of the database.


She's *kind* of right, Brian. I'd modify it that the oldsters should be
the helpful type, not the ones spitting bile about how awful or stupid
everyone is anymore. 8^) I really enjoy talking with old timers about
ham radio and radio in general as long as I don't get an earful of vitriol.

- Mike KB3EIA -


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Old January 25th 04, 11:31 PM
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William wrote:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...


Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an even
more unbalanced viewpoint.



Depends on your point of view. I'm going to encourage more cranky old
hams to drop out.



HA! Good one!

This is Brian, right?

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old January 26th 04, 01:06 PM
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Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
William wrote:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...


Old timers dropping out will not do a thing. There are enough new people
coming in that they won't even notice. Instead we will be left with an even
more unbalanced viewpoint.



Depends on your point of view. I'm going to encourage more cranky old
hams to drop out.



HA! Good one!

This is Brian, right?

- Mike KB3EIA -



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