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Strange Antenna in old 73 magazine ?
Hi,
Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV |
Was it in the April issue? A lot of "fools" fell for such articles in
73 Magazine, Hi. One such antenna was to be buried under ground then the "polarity" of the radiated wave would be "inverted". ;-) There are a few who experiment with "EH" antennas, where a coil is placed in coffee cans, spaced at different intervals for the band the antenna is to be used. http://www.qsl.net/w0kph/can.html JJJHS Jeff wrote: Hi, Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV |
Was it in the April issue? A lot of "fools" fell for such articles in
73 Magazine, Hi. One such antenna was to be buried under ground then the "polarity" of the radiated wave would be "inverted". ;-) There are a few who experiment with "EH" antennas, where a coil is placed in coffee cans, spaced at different intervals for the band the antenna is to be used. http://www.qsl.net/w0kph/can.html JJJHS Jeff wrote: Hi, Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV |
"Jeff" wrote in message ... Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's I recall one in a publication (S9) aimed at CB'ers back in the 60's. It used printed circuit boards as you mentioned but also incorporated a nice husky resistor that turned the critter into a dummy load. The article didn't fess up that it was an April fool joke until the next issue. Wonder how many fell for it? RM~ |
"Groom Lake" wrote in message news:40e9cf82.1579216@chupacabra... In posted on Mon, 5 I believe it might have been one of Kneitel's humor pieces. Your memory is better than mine on the details but you've got it. If I recall their were a lot of disgruntled readers. RM~ |
"Groom Lake" wrote in message news:40e9e5f1.7323874@chupacabra... In Message-ID:9i4Gc.1747$%w5.1570@okepread05 posted on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 Latter when the Browning labs introducedtheir "Eagle" series, I often wondered why the TR switch they used was configured to produce that feedback ping, Ok, I'll fess up; I had the eagles but mine refused to ping after I built a Wayne Green circuit (I think he nick named it the "Mule Box") which was a clamp tube circuit that ran the Brownies double sideband reduced carrier. It drove the locals nuts watching their s meters going nuts. I wasn't much into gab but enjoyed tinkering with the equipment more than gabbing on them so soon sold out except for a CB I used in the truck. I drove an 18 for a living and retired in 84 and haven't keyed anything since. RM~ |
JJJHS,
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= = = ... Hi, Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV .. JEFF [ZL3TNV] You may wish to try posting this same question 'separately' on the: "Rec.Radio.Amateur.Antenna" NewsGroup. RRAA= http://tinyurl.com/2hlw7 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=rec.radio.amateur.antenna hth ~ RHF .. |
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Groom Lake wrote: In Message-ID:Kl6Gc.1758$%w5.429@okepread05 posted on Mon, 5 Jul 2004 01:15:08 -0500, Rob Mills wrote: I wasn't much into gab but enjoyed tinkering with the equipment more than gabbing on them so soon sold out except for a CB I used in the truck. I drove an 18 for a living and retired in 84 and haven't keyed anything since. RM~ Back in '66 I put one of those (pre-bucket brigade) delay boxes* with a spring and two transducers in line with my audio and some of the locals thought the echo was due to the enormous power level, similar to 15 meter multipath, rather than just a precursor to today's echo-mike. *note - those delay boxes were more commonly used in conjunction with automotive 8-track players, and would make that distinctive boing effect whenever you hit a pothole or crossed the tracks too fast. ;-) Well, since the topic is shifting, can anyone tell me what the echo is supposed to do? in my travels, with my CB on, I can "hear" people with echo mic's and I'll be darned if I can hear them well at all. Now echo AND way overmodulated, now there's the ticket to complete unintelligibility! (is that a word?) - Mike - |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Groom Lake wrote: In Message-ID:Kl6Gc.1758$%w5.429@okepread05 posted on Mon, 5 Jul 2004 01:15:08 -0500, Rob Mills wrote: I wasn't much into gab but enjoyed tinkering with the equipment more than gabbing on them so soon sold out except for a CB I used in the truck. I drove an 18 for a living and retired in 84 and haven't keyed anything since. RM~ Back in '66 I put one of those (pre-bucket brigade) delay boxes* with a spring and two transducers in line with my audio and some of the locals thought the echo was due to the enormous power level, similar to 15 meter multipath, rather than just a precursor to today's echo-mike. *note - those delay boxes were more commonly used in conjunction with automotive 8-track players, and would make that distinctive boing effect whenever you hit a pothole or crossed the tracks too fast. ;-) Well, since the topic is shifting, can anyone tell me what the echo is supposed to do? in my travels, with my CB on, I can "hear" people with echo mic's and I'll be darned if I can hear them well at all. Now echo AND way overmodulated, now there's the ticket to complete unintelligibility! (is that a word?) - Mike - They "think" it makes them sound better or more cool, not sure which. Problem is, most are turned up TOO far. Some isn't so objectionable and doesn't sound bad, even though they're not supposed to be permitted per part 95. I've heard so many that sounded like they were talking either underwater or with a mouth full of something. REALLY SUCKED. Being both a ham and Cber, I can't see what their sense of existence is. Then too, you got everyone and his brother cranking up the RF out, and if they go channel hopping, that bleeds like hell. I had to take a double take one time when I and a friend of mine were in another CB shop, and actually heard two CBers swear off the extra garbage and go back to stock TO HEAR! WOW. I asked my friend if I heard right, and he agreed. I don't do any mods to CBs or other radios unless permitted by law or needed to get the thing working, when a unit comes to my shop. Many don't like my approach, but so be it. Lou |
RC,
Instead of playing the 'game' of posting a reply to anything I post. Why don't you be helpful to the original poster and attempt to answer his question. First - What type (name) antenna is he talking about ? Second - What is your 'expert' opinion about this antenna ? Third - What are the technical aspects of this antenna ? - - - - - The Original Question - - - - - Hi, Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - It's much nicer and rewarding to be honestly helpful .. . . then simply hateful. A 'noted' Yahoo ~ RHF .. .. = = = Richard Clark wrote in message = = = . .. On 5 Jul 2004 01:26:17 -0700, (RHF) wrote: The EH antenna has exceptional promise. It is about 10' in diameter, requires no extensive underground radials, uses approximately 75% less energy and is more efficient. Hi OM, More efficient that what, a resistor? 75% less energy than what, a resistor? The eh antenna is one of several of a class that take more effort for less return than simply putting up as much wire as you have room for - even if it is the same size as any of these "amazing!" antennas. The absurd claims that attend the cfa/eh/fractal crowing societies is matched by their inability to prove them except through their own special math (never mind the S-Meter). However, there are those who argue SWLers need poor antennas and I suppose these fit the bill nicely. The technical equivalent of cell phones VS string-and-dixie cups tho'. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC .. |
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RHF wrote:
RC, Instead of playing the 'game' of posting a reply to anything I post. Why don't you be helpful to the original poster and attempt to answer his question. First - What type (name) antenna is he talking about ? A Dummy Load Second - What is your 'expert' opinion about this antenna ? Makes a pretty good Dummy load Third - What are the technical aspects of this antenna ? Acts like a Dummy load. - - - - - The Original Question - - - - - Hi, Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - It's much nicer and rewarding to be honestly helpful . . . then simply hateful. Oh Gee, Richard isn't being hateful, just responding to your post responding to the original posters msg. The world of engineering is like this - gotta have a tough skin, yaknow? rule 1 is extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If your antenna works, no amount of his scorn will stop it. rest snipped - mike KB3EIA - |
MC,
"If your antenna works, no amount of his scorn will stop it." If Your Antenna Works... Your Will Hear and Be Heard [.] Hey, What Works... WORKS ! ~ RHF .. .. = = = Mike Coslo wrote in message = = = ... RHF wrote: RC, Instead of playing the 'game' of posting a reply to anything I post. Why don't you be helpful to the original poster and attempt to answer his question. First - What type (name) antenna is he talking about ? A Dummy Load Second - What is your 'expert' opinion about this antenna ? Makes a pretty good Dummy load Third - What are the technical aspects of this antenna ? Acts like a Dummy load. - - - - - The Original Question - - - - - Hi, Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - It's much nicer and rewarding to be honestly helpful . . . then simply hateful. Oh Gee, Richard isn't being hateful, just responding to your post responding to the original posters msg. The world of engineering is like this - gotta have a tough skin, yaknow? rule 1 is extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If your antenna works, no amount of his scorn will stop it. rest snipped - mike KB3EIA - .. |
Instead of playing the 'game' of posting a reply to anything I post.
Your ego is showing. Uh oh -- worlds are colliding. Remember, rec.radio.shortwave is not a radio newsgroup, the people there are not knowledgeable about, or interested in, the technical aspects of radio. If it doesn't involve nasty name-calling or wild-eyed, mouth-foaming political looniness, then it doesn't belong in rec.radio.shortwave. |
"Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi, Does anyone remember a weird compact antenna that was featured in a 60's (or early 70's) edition of "73" magazine. Had 2 etched PCBs (like spaced plates) mounted inside a plastic bucket, and fed with coax? Does anyone know more details of this? JEFF ZL3TNV Wouldn't be a patch antenna by any chance? |
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