"Kate" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Martin, VK2UMJ" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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Gawd Almighty you Ausies are a thick headed bunch, ain't ya?

Ham RADIO is communications with a RADIO or a RADIO system.

INTERNET is communications with a NETWORK of interconnected computers
organized in such a manner to send "packets" of data world-wide.

Do you see any mention of RADIO there?

Yes, as a matter of fact, because the correct name for IRLP is Internet
Radio Linking Project. See www.irlp.net Note that is a USA website
describing IRLP, not an Aussie site...

A quote from the irlp.net website:

"The aim of this project is to reliably and inexpensively link amateur
radio systems without the use of RF links, leased lines, or satellites."

So, next question?


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Martin, VK2UMJ

Not a question, a statement. If it is linked by ANY means other than
radio, it is not ham radio. End of discussion.

Dan/W4NTI

So basically, what you're saying is that if you have a few repeaters
linked together by a landline, then those ham repeaters aren't ham radio?
Or if a club likes to control a repeater site via a phone line, then that
too isn't ham radio?

I used to be very active on the TCP/IP packet nets, using my VHF radio and
TNC to link to a gateway and on into the world wide converse net. Again,
the very thing you say isn't ham radio.

I'd say your definition is way too pure for the rest of us hobbyists, and
we'll all keep right on enjoying the part of our *hobby* that we find we
like the best, and if that just happens to be IRLP, Echolink, SSTV, CW,
ATV or whatever other mode/method then, sorry, that's the way it is. Deal
with it.

Kate vk4xyl


Your right to a point Kate. I'll give you that LL linking of repeaters are
indeed ham radio, so would be control of a repeater or say a remote base.
Thats also fine.

However using the internet where anyone on the net can access the system is
not ham radio. Its a radio connected to the WWW. Thats not ham radio.

I am not saying the idea and the system is not good, or it's bad. I'm
saying stop calling it ham radio. How about a new term...such as
INHAM....."Internet Ham" perhaps?

Dan/W4NTI