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Lloyd wrote:
On 14 May 2005 17:53:38 -0700, wrote:
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My money would be on Dan. He is a "real" cw operator, good fist
too!

Says Les as he (1) misuses taxpayer-furnished computing equipment at
Keesler AFB, and (2) fails to mention that he doesn't hold a ham
license and therefore isn't qualified to comment on someone's "fist."

The really odd part of this whole thread is that anyone at all thinks
the subject is important. If a code operator can send faster than
someone at an itty-bitty keyboard can, does a fish need a bicycle?

I can copy it faster than you can send it peckerbreath!

Les


If this is the "real Lloyd" then he is the one that has nothing to say. A
no code Tech with total inability to even learn 5 wpm.

I would take Les any day, even without a ticket, over this loser Lloyd.

Dan/W4NTI

"John" wrote in message
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Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Hamguy" wrote in message
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Phone would'a kicked all of their asses! Heck...Echolink would have
SMOKED
'em too!


Think so, do you? I'll bet I can get more thru put on CW than you can on
phone in the same amount of time. I'm not talking about a short
sentence. I mean real traffic.

Dan/W4NTI




Tell him Dan.
We don't need no stinking text messaging.

Echolink : Play amateur radio operator "No radio or antenna needed".

Ace - WH2T

How do you figure that the CW throughput will beat phone - at least for
clear text. I know that good CW ops can sail along at 50 wpm ( like my
Dad, unfortunately not me). But I thought speech was more like 200-300
wpm. So if you do not need to spell out unusual words, phone should beat
CW easily. The results could differ if we factor in odd ball words or
code groups and QRM/QRN but I thought this was simply clear text.
John


I base it on my experience as a traffic handler in both Amateur and MARS
radio. I base it on my experience of personally copying 5 character coded
groups in phone and in CW modes on a military circuit.

CW has better through put. You hit on the problem yourself. Having to slow
down to make sure the other operator copied the text sent. Normally by
using the phonetic alphabet. A good CW circuit does not have that problem,
and with the use of "cut" characters a whole word/sentence can be sent
without sending each individual character.

Dan/W4NTI

"SMUG G1" wrote in message
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What's the URL?

www.qrq.org.uk as usual?


look at www.qrz.com then follow the link.

Lloyd wrote:
On 15 May 2005 10:51:16 -0700, drooled:

Lloyd wrote:
On 14 May 2005 17:53:38 -0700,
wrote:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.22.200.44 - nelson.keesler.af.mil

My money would be on Dan. He is a "real" cw operator, good fist
too!

Says Les as he (1) misuses taxpayer-furnished computing equipment
at
Keesler AFB, and (2) fails to mention that he doesn't hold a ham
license and therefore isn't qualified to comment on someone's
"fist."

The really odd part of this whole thread is that anyone at all
thinks
the subject is important. If a code operator can send faster
than
someone at an itty-bitty keyboard can, does a fish need a
bicycle?

I can copy it faster than you can send it peckerbreath!

Don't matter. You've spent years dissing ham radio while stealing
from the taxpayers. Time for you to STFU, geezer, 'cause your
opinion
don't mean squat.

(I see you quietly stopped using Keesler AFB computers to proxy your
posts. You must be a little frightened that the CO will find out.)

Hey Dan: Why do you ignore Les' misuse of Air Force property? Some
patriot you are.

Dan and I are friends dimwit. Kinda burns you up, me being able to post
when I want doesn't it?

Dissing ham radio? Not me, I repair radios for amateur operators all
the time.

I'm not worried about anyone saying anything about me posting from a
computer where I work.

Find someone else to stalk you dork!

Les

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Hamguy" wrote in message
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Phone would'a kicked all of their asses! Heck...Echolink would
have
SMOKED
'em too!


Think so, do you? I'll bet I can get more thru put on CW than you
can on
phone in the same amount of time. I'm not talking about a short
sentence.
I mean real traffic.


Dan/W4NTI


My money would be on Dan. He is a "real" cw operator, good fist too!


Les



Thanks Les, good to hear from you again.

Dan/W4NTI


Little does Lloyd know. That isn't the real dumbass No-Code Lloyd, just
another gay stalker.

Dan was a high speed morse intercept operator in the military. I can
tell the difference between straight keys, keyers, and bugs. Just
happens I can copy code just fine.

Never had a desire to get a ham ticket. No big deal to me.

Dan and I have known each other for several years.

Les

"Lloyd" wrote in message
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On 15 May 2005 10:51:16 -0700, drooled:

Lloyd wrote:
On 14 May 2005 17:53:38 -0700, wrote:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.22.200.44 - nelson.keesler.af.mil

My money would be on Dan. He is a "real" cw operator, good fist
too!

Says Les as he (1) misuses taxpayer-furnished computing equipment at
Keesler AFB, and (2) fails to mention that he doesn't hold a ham
license and therefore isn't qualified to comment on someone's "fist."

The really odd part of this whole thread is that anyone at all thinks
the subject is important. If a code operator can send faster than
someone at an itty-bitty keyboard can, does a fish need a bicycle?

I can copy it faster than you can send it peckerbreath!

Don't matter. You've spent years dissing ham radio while stealing
from the taxpayers. Time for you to STFU, geezer, 'cause your opinion
don't mean squat.

(I see you quietly stopped using Keesler AFB computers to proxy your
posts. You must be a little frightened that the CO will find out.)

Hey Dan: Why do you ignore Les' misuse of Air Force property? Some
patriot you are.

I don't see any such thing. You are a mental case Lloyd.

Dan/W4NTI

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Lloyd wrote:
On 15 May 2005 10:51:16 -0700, drooled:

Lloyd wrote:
On 14 May 2005 17:53:38 -0700,
wrote:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.22.200.44 - nelson.keesler.af.mil

My money would be on Dan. He is a "real" cw operator, good fist
too!

Says Les as he (1) misuses taxpayer-furnished computing equipment
at
Keesler AFB, and (2) fails to mention that he doesn't hold a ham
license and therefore isn't qualified to comment on someone's
"fist."

The really odd part of this whole thread is that anyone at all
thinks
the subject is important. If a code operator can send faster
than
someone at an itty-bitty keyboard can, does a fish need a
bicycle?

I can copy it faster than you can send it peckerbreath!

Don't matter. You've spent years dissing ham radio while stealing
from the taxpayers. Time for you to STFU, geezer, 'cause your
opinion
don't mean squat.

(I see you quietly stopped using Keesler AFB computers to proxy your
posts. You must be a little frightened that the CO will find out.)

Hey Dan: Why do you ignore Les' misuse of Air Force property? Some
patriot you are.

Dan and I are friends dimwit. Kinda burns you up, me being able to post
when I want doesn't it?

Dissing ham radio? Not me, I repair radios for amateur operators all
the time.

I'm not worried about anyone saying anything about me posting from a
computer where I work.

Find someone else to stalk you dork!

Les


Sounds to me he is jealous. He must have been stopped by his boss (the
pimple faced 16 year old) from using the Pizza joints coco II machine.

Dan/W4NTI

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Hamguy" wrote in message
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Phone would'a kicked all of their asses! Heck...Echolink would
have
SMOKED
'em too!


Think so, do you? I'll bet I can get more thru put on CW than you
can on
phone in the same amount of time. I'm not talking about a short
sentence.
I mean real traffic.


Dan/W4NTI


My money would be on Dan. He is a "real" cw operator, good fist too!


Les



Thanks Les, good to hear from you again.

Dan/W4NTI


Little does Lloyd know. That isn't the real dumbass No-Code Lloyd, just
another gay stalker.

Dan was a high speed morse intercept operator in the military. I can
tell the difference between straight keys, keyers, and bugs. Just
happens I can copy code just fine.

Never had a desire to get a ham ticket. No big deal to me.

Dan and I have known each other for several years.

Les


Certainly can. In fact a guy on a "keyer" also has a nice signature. Lots
of folks that don't know...just don't know.

Dan/W4NTI

I hope you idiots that bottom post without snipping almost all of the
relevant quoted message understand that 95% of us wouldn't take the trouble
to see what such an ignoramus posted.

Jim

"John" wrote in message
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"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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KC8GXW wrote:

Top posting to save some scrolling.

All of this comes down to one thing, CW beat the TEXT guys. Whatever is
faster or slower, the rabbit or the hare, it's all redundant. There has
been three such test that I've heard of and in all three CW won. Maybe
the text lagged by 10 seconds, maybe K6CTW filled in the last 2 words.
The bottom line is that it was a race and CW won!

(2) Yaesu FT-817's $1178.45
(2) Telegrapher uniforms $ 156.99
The look on the text guys face Priceless


Let me say right off- CW is my favorite and almost only mode. With that said
this contest (which I enjoyed watching) was more about the data entry system
than it was the mode. Given large ergonomic keyboards I believe the touch
typist could beat my paddle handily.

W4OP