"n9ogl" wrote in message

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but hey, I'm talking to bunch
of dumb narrow-minded licensed CB operators, who can't look outside the
box.

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but hey I bunch of cry-baby licensed CB operators who think they
amateur's know.

47 CFR 97.3(a)(25) or 47 CFR 97.111(b)(6) states that a information
bulletin
has to be directed to amateur radio operators, consisting solely of
subject matter of DIRECT INTEREST to the amateur service.

But, hey what
would a bunch of half-wit licensed CB operators know.

Toad N9OGL
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First let me quote Dan/W4NTI

"Tell me Toad, what has CB got to do with this discussion? Other than the
obvious fact that it is where you learned all you "know" about Amateur
Radio."

Thanks Dan, I couldn't have said it better.

Todd I seriously doubt that you have anything to say that would be of DIRECT
INTEREST to the amateur service. You MIGHT have something to say that would
interest
a bunch of dumb, narrow-minded, cry-baby, half-wit, CB operators. But I
doubt it.

One last thing,
since an_old_friend doesn't have a call sign his/her opinion is of NO
relevance in an amateur radio news group.
Just my 2 cents.
Ace - WH2T

Todd I seriously doubt that you have anything to say that would be of DIRECT
INTEREST to the amateur service. You MIGHT have something to say that would
interest
a bunch of dumb, narrow-minded, cry-baby, half-wit, CB operators. But I
doubt it.

First off Doc, how would you know, have you heard my bulletin??
Secondly and this is the important part, the FCC has stated it is up to
the control operator of the station transmitting the Information
bulletin to determine if it's of interest to the amateur radio service,
NOT the people listening.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

Todd N9OGL

On 20 Jul 2005 01:15:52 -0700, "n9ogl" wrote:

Todd I seriously doubt that you have anything to say that would be of DIRECT
INTEREST to the amateur service. You MIGHT have something to say that would
interest
a bunch of dumb, narrow-minded, cry-baby, half-wit, CB operators. But I
doubt it.

First off Doc, how would you know, have you heard my bulletin??
Secondly and this is the important part, the FCC has stated it is up to
the control operator of the station transmitting the Information
bulletin to determine if it's of interest to the amateur radio service,
NOT the people listening.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

Q. What is an "information bulletin"?

A. The term is defined in Section 97.3. It is a message directed only
to amateur operators and consists solely of subject matter of direct
interest to the amateur service. The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service.

That's the cite that you were too lazy to paste. There's a subtle but
very important difference between what it says and what you purport it
to say.

It says that you, the control operator, are responsible for
determining that the subject matter is of direct interest to the
amateur service.

It doesn't say you get to decide that it is. You must ensure that it
is.

You can be sure that if the FCC interprets your content as not of
direct interest to the amateur service (most likely based on
complaints of listeners) you will find yourself spending lots of time
and money explaining why it wasn't.


--
LRod

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Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

Here's somethiong you forgot to paste.

From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 7, 2003]
[Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between
January 7, 2003 and February 12, 2003]
[CITE: 47USC326]


TITLE 47--TELEGRAPHS, TELEPHONES, AND RADIOTELEGRAPHS

CHAPTER 5--WIRE OR RADIO COMMUNICATION

SUBCHAPTER III--SPECIAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO RADIO

Part I--General Provisions

Sec. 326. Censorship

Nothing in this chapter shall be understood or construed to give the
Commission the power of censorship over the radio communications or
signals transmitted by any radio station, and no regulation or
condition
shall be promulgated or fixed by the Commission which shall interfere
with the right of free speech by means of radio communication.

(June 19, 1934, ch. 652, title III, Sec. 326, 48 Stat. 1091; June 25,
1948, ch. 645, Sec. 21, 62 Stat. 862.)


Amendments

1948--Act June 25, 1948, repealed last sentence relating to use of
indecent language. See section 1464 of Title 18, Crimes and Criminal
Procedure.


Effective Date of 1948 Amendment

Amendment by act June 25, 1948, effective as of Sept. 1, 1948, see
section 20 of that act.

On 20 Jul 2005 08:09:11 -0700, "n9ogl" wrote:

Here's somethiong you forgot to paste.

No, I was responding to the specific cite you provided.

As to the following, you armchair lawyers love to find passages in the
regs and apply them out of context. For example, reading the following
makes me think that the FCC has erred every time they've fined Howard
Stern and when they fined all the stations after the Janet Jackson
brouhaha.

Either they're wrong...or you are. Guess where my money is.


From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 7, 2003]
[Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between
January 7, 2003 and February 12, 2003]
[CITE: 47USC326]


TITLE 47--TELEGRAPHS, TELEPHONES, AND RADIOTELEGRAPHS

CHAPTER 5--WIRE OR RADIO COMMUNICATION

SUBCHAPTER III--SPECIAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO RADIO

Part I--General Provisions

Sec. 326. Censorship

Nothing in this chapter shall be understood or construed to give the
Commission the power of censorship over the radio communications or
signals transmitted by any radio station, and no regulation or
condition
shall be promulgated or fixed by the Commission which shall interfere
with the right of free speech by means of radio communication.

(June 19, 1934, ch. 652, title III, Sec. 326, 48 Stat. 1091; June 25,
1948, ch. 645, Sec. 21, 62 Stat. 862.)


Amendments

1948--Act June 25, 1948, repealed last sentence relating to use of
indecent language. See section 1464 of Title 18, Crimes and Criminal
Procedure.


Effective Date of 1948 Amendment

Amendment by act June 25, 1948, effective as of Sept. 1, 1948, see
section 20 of that act.

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

As to the following, you armchair lawyers love to find passages in the
regs and apply them out of context. For example, reading the following
makes me think that the FCC has erred every time they've fined Howard
Stern and when they fined all the stations after the Janet Jackson
brouhaha.

The ONLY content they are allowed to regulated under the law, even that
one is obscene and indecent material, and that's it. As long as it not
obscene or indecent the FCC can't regulate it.

No, I was responding to the specific cite you provided.
As to the following, you armchair lawyers love to find passages in the
regs and apply them out of context. For example, reading the following
makes me think that the FCC has erred every time they've fined Howard
Stern and when they fined all the stations after the Janet Jackson
brouhaha.

Either they're wrong...or you are. Guess where my money is.

The ONLY thing the FCC is allowed to regulated regarding content is
Obscene and indecent material and that's they only thing they are
allowed to regulate.

Todd N9OGL

On 20 Jul 2005 12:01:07 -0700, "n9ogl" wrote:

As to the following, you armchair lawyers love to find passages in the
regs and apply them out of context. For example, reading the following
makes me think that the FCC has erred every time they've fined Howard
Stern and when they fined all the stations after the Janet Jackson
brouhaha.

The ONLY content they are allowed to regulated under the law, even that
one is obscene and indecent material, and that's it. As long as it not
obscene or indecent the FCC can't regulate it.

That's not what the passage you cited says.

But you see, they can pretty much do what they want. Of course
armchair lawyers think they can win these cases in court. Go ahead. If
you think you can say anything you want on the air, have a ball. When
you have your ass handed to you by the FCC, give me a jingle, I'll be
glad to hand you a towel.

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

Obscene and Indecent material falls under a different catagory, which
is the federal courts has ruled in the past that obscene and indecent
material is not protected by the first amendment, while other content
is. As I've stated before show me a final order or a rule that states
an Information bulletin can not be opinionated. The FCC IMHO isn't
going to go after some moron who gets on the radio spectrum and has a
show, and he spews his opinion that a 4 bay antenna is a lot better in
his opinion over a J-Pole. The REAL main difference between
Broadcasting and an Information bulletin is a Broadcast is directed to
the general public as a whole, while an Information bulletin is
directed to a certain group. The FCC BELIEVES they can do what ever
they want however the federal courts has REPEATIVELY said other wise
when it comes to regular content, instead of Un-first amendment
content.

Todd N9OGL

Oh I read everything you say. I just get tired of reading it several times
in the same paragraph.

Dan/W4NTI

"n9ogl" wrote in message
oups.com...
To do what with? To spew your "opinions". That is NOT a bulletin Toad.

I see dan you didn't read my post or you snipped it because the fact is
I'm tell the truth and you don't want to hear the truth. Like I've said
many times before you show me an FCC rule or a final order from the FCC
that say's an Information bulletin can't be opinionated, the truth is
there is none, I know it and all the other morons on this newsgroup
know it but they don't have the balls to admit to it. the both line is
your all so narrow-minded that you can't look outside your little box.
All you have to do is read and do research, but you moron on this
newsgroup either don't want to or can't

Todd N9OGL
THE N9OGL BBS
http://n9ogl.proboards50.com/index.cgi?