If M3 is the answer, it's a silly question! wrote:
"nntp.aioe.org" wrote in message
...

I suggest that it still lies in the areas of LC filters, resistor
networks and individual transistor (or valve) operation.



One traditional area that I did not mention, but perhaps should
have done, was the tradition of gentlemanly conduct, a tradition
that is seen to be lacking in _ALL_ those who have responded
to this thread.

Considering your past form and your obvious desire to create argument, I
think that all who have so far responded have done so in a measured and
reasonable way. It seems that you are the odd one out (again).

You have not told me the difference between one end of a resistor and
the other despite my polite, earnest, request for more information. To
ignore a straightforward question like this is, IMO, very ungentlemanly
and against the spirit of amateur radio - especially as you introduced
the subject.

All have responded as Childish Broadcasters (CBers) with
gratuitous and infantile personal remarks.

Nothing childish about my question at all. Nothing gratuitous either.
You as the "know it all" of amateur radio make rash statements then fall
back to slagging off everyone who replies by abuse.

Shame on you all. You do nothing for the PR of Ham Radio.


And what exactly is your input to the PR of amateur radio? Oh Sorry!, I
forgot that you don't like to answer questions about your rash
statements... I must have been having a Childish Broadcaster moment.

Steve

on 09/09/2006 18:52 Gareth Anus Evans under yet another silly sock
puppet said the following:
One traditional area that I did not mention, but perhaps should
have done, was the tradition of gentlemanly conduct, a tradition
that is seen to be lacking in _ALL_ those who have responded
to this thread.

All have responded as Childish Broadcasters (CBers) with
gratuitous and infantile personal remarks.

Shame on you all. You do nothing for the PR of Ham Radio.


OK Beanie, check this out for 'PR' :

FOAD, ****

....(_!_)...

"If M3 is the answer, it's a silly question!" wrote in
message ...
"nntp.aioe.org" wrote in message
...
I suggest that it still lies in the areas of LC filters, resistor
networks and individual transistor (or valve) operation.


One traditional area that I did not mention, but perhaps should
have done, was the tradition of gentlemanly conduct, a tradition
that is seen to be lacking in _ALL_ those who have responded
to this thread.

All have responded as Childish Broadcasters (CBers) with
gratuitous and infantile personal remarks.

Shame on you all. You do nothing for the PR of Ham Radio.

An example of "gratuitous and infantile personal remarks" is the litany
of rudeness coming from the pen of G8IZY. I do not know this
person, and have not dealt with him before,and yet he has
originated a tirade of abusive remarks that are unrelated
to this thread, and unrelated to any behaviour of mine

Gratuitous use of "WTF" is indicative of a _VERY_ childish outburst.

Shame on him...

"WTF has software and DSP theory got to do with it? Apart from your
egotistical desire to score points that is. Though, on past form, you
don't seem to come out too well when you discuss your theories with
people that do know what they are talking about.

-----ooooo-----

Considering your past form and your obvious desire to create argument, I
think that all who have so far responded have done so in a measured and
reasonable way. It seems that you are the odd one out (again).

-----ooooo-----

You have not told me the difference between one end of a resistor and
the other despite my polite, earnest, request for more information. To
ignore a straightforward question like this is, IMO, very ungentlemanly
and against the spirit of amateur radio - especially as you introduced
the subject.

-----00000-----

You as the "know it all" of amateur radio make rash statements then fall
back to slagging off everyone who replies by abuse.

-----ooooo-----


And what exactly is your input to the PR of amateur radio? Oh Sorry!, I
forgot that you don't like to answer questions about your rash
statements... I must have been having a Childish Broadcaster moment. "

"Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham" wrote in message
...
-----ooooo-----

You have not told me the difference between one end of a resistor and
the other despite my polite, earnest, request for more information. To
ignore a straightforward question like this is, IMO, very ungentlemanly
and against the spirit of amateur radio - especially as you introduced
the subject.

-----00000-----

G8IZY seems to be asking me why I fail to respond to questions that are put
to me by those whose style is indicative of a childish disposition wishing
to
cause insult. I think the answer to that seeming question is in the question
itself.

Such childish outbursts do nothng for the PR of Ham Radio and should
be ignored.

In addition to the properties and usage of basic discrete components (still
very important) and the appreciation of fundamental principles (from an
introductory mathematical perspective) of electronics, there is an
increasing interest in the use of integrated circuits, especially at low and
intermediate signal levels. It is seldom necessary to be an expert at the
inner workings of these ICs, but the ability to understand their data sheets
and how to employ and interconnect them is a skill that is very useful.

We probably could be tested a little regarding the basic usage of certain
kinds of ICs such as opamp, multiplier and DSP types.

Bill W0IYH

"nntp.aioe.org" wrote in message
...
I suggest that it still lies in the areas of LC filters, resistor
networks and individual transistor (or valve) operation.

Because, although the bulk of our circuit complexity
will soon lie in a single DSP chip, the interfaces to that chip,
to us at the baseband end and then to the antenna at the RF end,
still depend upon traditional electronic (pre-IC) practice.

How, then, can it be possible to issue Ham Radio licences
to those who cannot tell one end of a resistor from the other?

How, then, can it ever be possible to issue Ham Radio
licences to those of 6 years of age who lack the mathematical
capability to understand the evaluation of resistances in parallel?

The answer is, that it cannot be possible, and that licences
issued to such people are CB licences, no more, no less.

Syllabi for Ham Radio exams should resort to the traditional
subjects of familiarity with elemental electrical and electronic
components together with a modernised examination of the
ability to write software and understanding of DSP theory.

Mostly at the local cemetery.

Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham wrote:


And what exactly is your input to the PR of amateur radio? Oh Sorry!,
I forgot that you don't like to answer questions about your rash
statements... I must have been having a Childish Broadcaster moment. "

I'm confused - has the Court ordered that you bottom post?
--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
villageidiot(at)sheepandmeths.co.uk
ICQ 136-987-925

on 10/09/2006 11:10 huLLy said the following:
Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham wrote:

And what exactly is your input to the PR of amateur radio? Oh Sorry!,
I forgot that you don't like to answer questions about your rash
statements... I must have been having a Childish Broadcaster moment. "

I'm confused - has the Court ordered that you bottom post?
Since he's known as The Anus (among many other things) he has a duty to
bottom post.
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

huLLy wrote:
Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham wrote:


And what exactly is your input to the PR of amateur radio? Oh Sorry!,
I forgot that you don't like to answer questions about your rash
statements... I must have been having a Childish Broadcaster moment. "


I'm confused - has the Court ordered that you bottom post?

Bottom posted or top posted, it's still the same old garbage ;-)

Steve

Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham wrote:
"Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham" wrote in message
...

-----ooooo-----

You have not told me the difference between one end of a resistor and
the other despite my polite, earnest, request for more information. To
ignore a straightforward question like this is, IMO, very ungentlemanly
and against the spirit of amateur radio - especially as you introduced
the subject.

-----00000-----


G8IZY seems to be asking me why I fail to respond to questions that are put
to me by those whose style is indicative of a childish disposition wishing
to
cause insult. I think the answer to that seeming question is in the question
itself.

Such childish outbursts do nothng for the PR of Ham Radio and should
be ignored.



I repeat my question word for word;

"Gareth, would you please enlighten me. Apart from reading the value
and, for aesthetic reasons - what is the difference between the two ends?"

That seems like a reasonable question to me. Perhaps you are unable to
answer it because you don't know the answer despite your statement;

How, then, can it be possible to issue Ham Radio licences
to those who cannot tell one end of a resistor from the other?

I'm still waiting.

Steve