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Jim,
I replaced the ridiculously large 10n with 200pF as suggested. Not a gnat's wisker difference in the response. Should this have some noticeable difference ? The Philips app note AN1993 shows a 152 MHz RF receiver using even larger and more ridiculous 100nF values for the RF decoupling throughout the circuit. Why would the IC manufacturer use these values ? Regards David RST Engineering wrote: Your 10 nanofarad capacitor as a bypass on the low RF input is ridiculous. It has to have a self-resonance down in the low MHz., if not the kHz. Use a bypass something on the order of 50 pf if a leaded capacitor, and something like 200 pf if a chip. Jim "David" wrote in message ... Yes, I tune the series capacitance of the tap(3-10p trimmer), the 5.6pF is the calculated value. The input capacitance of the IC is assumed to be around 2.6pF and I allowed a couple of pF stray circuit capacitance. As the match is so broad due to low Q, I would assume the tuning is not critical and that any matching closer to the device input impedance would show a significant improvement in sensitivity. Does anyone know what the impedance of the SA605 is at 434 MHz? Philips APP note AN1994 shows a table that states 1785 Ohms // 2.5 pF at 250 MHz and dropping to 588 Ohms // 2.75pF at 500 MHz. If I interpolate the values between these points and assume the change is almost linear then I would expect the impedance to be around 800R // 2p5 or 2.6. I do not have a network analyser to determine the impedance. Thanks Regards David W3JDR wrote: Also, you don't say what the input caoacitance is. In my modeling, with an assumption of about 4pf for chip and strays, the voltage gain is about 9 (19db), the resonance is a little below 400 mhz and you'd be about 10 db down at 434 mhz. I agree with Tim...tune it. Joe W3JDR "Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... David wrote: I am having trouble matching to the input of a SA605 at 434 MHz. If I apply a sig gen directly to pin 1 via a 1n cap I get around - 95Bm sensitivity. I then add my match and the sensitivity drops more than 10dB. I am expecting 10dB increase in sensitivity when input is matched correctly. First I tried matching to 800R as per input impedance listed in the Philips APP note. I then noticed most applications matched to 1k5. My current circuit is C-Tap (33pF to ground and series 5p6 to inductor). 18.5nH inductor (Q = 100) across input pins 1 and 2. 10n decoupling cap from pin 2 to ground. Any help much appreciated. Regards David You don't mention any adjustable components -- you _are_ tuning this thing, right? Your circuit will have a loaded Q of around 5, so you should see a pretty broad peak, but you will have to tune out all your stray capacitance. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Posting from Google? See http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/ "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" came out in April. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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