I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?

Might we all act together to produce a series
of "biscuits" that could then be assembled
Lego-like fashion to produce any rig or test
equipment? This would have a number of benefits,
not the least of which would be the bankrupting
of the cancerous emporia whose off-the-shelf
Cheque-Book (CB) radios are not only discouraging
the homebrew engineering that is the essence
of _REAL_ Ham Radio but also encouraging an
altogether undesirable element to regard
themselves as of our ranks. Once the advertising
income from those dead emporia ceased to flow,
then the national societies might get back
to supporting technical excellence instead
of Complete Bull**** (CB) as they do now?

(And, no, I'm not thinking in terms of the facile
hardware exercises that bring on the disease known
as the gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB
Fools' Licence scheme; facile because once a
so-called "licence" has been granted the hardware
diversion is largely forgotten.)

On 16 Apr, 11:55, "G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote:


Might we all act together to produce a series
of "biscuits" that could then be assembled
Lego-like fashion to produce any rig or test
equipment? This would have a number of benefits,


Like LEGO? Well done for realising that currently amateur radio has
done little to interest the under-fives. Maybe it's a whole new market?

"G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote in message
...
I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?

A kind of take over then ? .......

More a take-back

"Jim GM4DHJ" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?

A kind of take over then ? .......

"Jim GM4DHJ" wrote in message
...

"G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote in message
...
I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?

A kind of take over then ? .......

I would buy the RSGB but I only buy going concerns normally or businesses
that have a clear future.

Gordon Hudson wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ" wrote in message
...
"G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote in message
...
I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?
A kind of take over then ? .......

I would buy the RSGB but I only buy going concerns normally or businesses
that have a clear future.

Well, you should be able to get the RSGB for about a fiver, so maybe
worth a punt


--
ARRL membership = $39 (~£20)
RSGB membership = £44

Don't let them rip you off any more.
Do the right thing, resign from the RSGB today.

The RSGB said Radio Amateurs were a threat to national security!
Is this the type of organisation you want to represent you?

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, G.A.Evans G4SDW wrote:

I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?

Might we all act together to produce a series
of "biscuits" that could then be assembled
Lego-like fashion to produce any rig or test
equipment?

FWIW (pardon me) but I recognize what you are talking about as "descrete
devices" (i.e. tubes, transistors, resistors, capacitors, etc.).

This would have a number of benefits,
not the least of which would be the bankrupting
of the cancerous emporia whose off-the-shelf
Cheque-Book (CB) radios are not only discouraging
the homebrew engineering that is the essence
of _REAL_ Ham Radio but also encouraging an
altogether undesirable element to regard
themselves as of our ranks.

I think all that store-bought stuff just dumbs-down the brains of people
who would be better off building their own, leanring something, and
sharpening their wits in the process.

Once the advertising
income from those dead emporia ceased to flow,
then the national societies might get back
to supporting technical excellence instead
of Complete Bull**** (CB)

Hey, that's a great acronym for CB (or vice versa)!

as they do now?

(And, no, I'm not thinking in terms of the facile
hardware exercises that bring on the disease known
as the gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB
Fools' Licence scheme; facile because once a
so-called "licence" has been granted the hardware
diversion is largely forgotten.)

We've also got too many "keyboard potatoes," too!

On 16 Apr, 07:16, Straydog wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, G.A.Evans G4SDW wrote:
I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?

Might we all act together to produce a series
of "biscuits" that could then be assembled
Lego-like fashion to produce any rig or test
equipment?

FWIW (pardon me) but I recognize what you are talking about as "descrete
devices" (i.e. tubes, transistors, resistors, capacitors, etc.).

This would have a number of benefits,

not the least of which would be the bankrupting
of the cancerous emporia whose off-the-shelf
Cheque-Book (CB) radios are not only discouraging
the homebrew engineering that is the essence
of _REAL_ Ham Radio but also encouraging an
altogether undesirable element to regard
themselves as of our ranks.

I think all that store-bought stuff just dumbs-down the brains of people
who would be better off building their own, leanring something, and
sharpening their wits in the process.

Once the advertising

income from those dead emporia ceased to flow,
then the national societies might get back
to supporting technical excellence instead
of Complete Bull**** (CB)

Hey, that's a great acronym for CB (or vice versa)!

as they do now?



(And, no, I'm not thinking in terms of the facile
hardware exercises that bring on the disease known
as the gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB
Fools' Licence scheme; facile because once a
so-called "licence" has been granted the hardware
diversion is largely forgotten.)

We've also got too many "keyboard potatoes," too!

G4SDW & "Straydog"

There are many groups on the Internet that are devoted to homebrewing
their own ham radio equipment. They run the full gamut of interests
from old valve type equipment to the latest in microprocessors and
microwave component based projects. You are welcome to join and
participate in these groups.

Arv - K7HKL

What I had in mind was a slightly higher level
system view.

So starting at the easy end, we might specify that
the AF amp takes 100mW into 600 Ohms, and
delivers 1W out into 8 Ohms. a biscuit to do that
might take many forms but would all be interchangeable.

If an audio filter were to be included, that would
work in and out at 100mV into 600 Ohms with
0dB gain - and would thus be an optional fit
prior to the AF amp.

I'm not thinking in terms of mother and daughter boards,
but of a set of standard biscuit designs that could then
be assembled into whatever, test eqpt or rig.

Although we'd be using small miniature components (is
anything else readily available these days?) that miniaturisation
does not have to feature in our biscuits necessarily, so
we might have SMDs but spaced out by half-an-inch, or so,
to enable us to work with them.

Setting aside the infantile remarks and attention-seeking
from "the usual suspects", I'm proposing that this be a joint
effort.

"Straydog" wrote in message
x.com...

Might we all act together to produce a series
of "biscuits" that could then be assembled
Lego-like fashion to produce any rig or test
equipment?

FWIW (pardon me) but I recognize what you are talking about as "descrete
devices" (i.e. tubes, transistors, resistors, capacitors, etc.).

Each biscuit would be a standard size or a multiple
thereof, I'd tentatively suggest 1 1/2" X 2".

Assembly of a transceiver would then consist of
biscuits mounted horizontally. The idea is that we
put HB firmly back on the map as the standard
route into HamRadio, so I'm not after miniaturisation.

Perhaps if we could produce rigs of the size of floor
plan size of the old FT101 we'd be OK for easily
doing our own maintenance....we need to ensure room to
get a soldering iron and a probe in there without fear
of affecting other parts.

For all their simplicity, this spaciousness and room-to-breathe
was something desirable that was lost with the demise
of valve ("tube" to the Yanks) rigs.

wrote in message ...
What I had in mind was a slightly higher level
system view.

So starting at the easy end, we might specify that
the AF amp takes 100mW into 600 Ohms, and
delivers 1W out into 8 Ohms. a biscuit to do that
might take many forms but would all be interchangeable.

If an audio filter were to be included, that would
work in and out at 100mV into 600 Ohms with
0dB gain - and would thus be an optional fit
prior to the AF amp.