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K3HVG[_2_] May 7th 07 01:22 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Ross, NS7F wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F


Mouser has a respectable line of aluminum and steel chassis in their
catalog. The selection, today, is not what it was back in the 50's or
60's, but you can find what will work. Prices are a lot higher, too,
especially for cabinet-type metalwork! I just pulled the '57 issue you
spoke of. No problem with the chassis but the cabinet no longer exists
from Bud, et al, much less Hammond. There is a fellow who ads in several
pubs that makes aluminum chassis and cabinets. He's resonable and I'm
sure he can gin up what you need. He's located in the Mid-Atlantic area
and I saw him, last weekend, at a local hamfest.
de K3HVG


Ross, NS7F May 7th 07 01:36 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F


Uncle Peter May 7th 07 02:00 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 

"Ross, NS7F" wrote in message
oups.com...
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F


http://www.youdoitelectronics.com



Tim Shoppa May 7th 07 02:01 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Ross, NS7F wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?


Aluminum chassis are available ($10-$30 range depending on size) from
www.digikey.com, www.mouser.com, www.tubesandmore.com, etc.

Kitchen pans/baking trays can be surprisingly effective as well for a
lot less money.

A good hardware/welding store will have aluminum sheet and extrusions.
Home Depot etc. really suck in this area.

As far as full metal cabinets go, the above-named distributors will
have them by Hammond, Bud, etc., but you'll be shocked at the prices.
Recycled enclosures from other projects or picked up at hamfests are
quite affordable though.

McMaster-Carr has a lot of stuff, not discount prices, but excellent
selection and they ship to me overnight via UPS ground. They also have
a lot of plastics, tubes, etc. http://www.mcmaster-carr.com/

Tim KA0BTD


msg May 7th 07 03:08 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Tim Shoppa wrote:

snip
Aluminum chassis are available ($10-$30 range depending on size) from
www.digikey.com, www.mouser.com, www.tubesandmore.com, etc.

Kitchen pans/baking trays can be surprisingly effective as well for a
lot less money.

A good hardware/welding store will have aluminum sheet and extrusions.
Home Depot etc. really suck in this area.


Also, consider having enclosures made at a local sheet metal shop
(heating, cooling, ventilating); I've had them done for _very_
little money out of galvanized, and you can solder to them.

Regards,

Michael

geek May 7th 07 08:45 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Hello,

The aluminium that retail chassis are made from is a joke. Get some
1.6mm 5052-H14 from a local aluminium shop, a $30 brake and away you go.
You can make 5-7 for the cost of one retail ;-)


Cheers,
__
Gregg

-=H=- May 7th 07 01:17 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Ross,

Commercial outlets like Digi-Key, Mouser, Newark-Inone,
and Allied Electronics carry a wide array of aluminum
and steel enclosures. They're not cheap these days, but
if you need one, you need one. Also keep an eye on eBay
for chassis and enclosures. I've snagged some good ones
there at very reasonable prices. And, of course, visit
every local hamfest and SK estate sale. There are still
bargains to be had that way. I picked up a nice cabinet
at an estate sale just the other day which I intend to
build a power supply in. It is about 6" tall, 8" deep,
and 12" wide, and it's new in the original box. The was
only $6.00! I buy cabinets and chassis whenever and
wherever I find them, and then worry about what I can
use them for.

The projects you're contemplating sound like something
I'd build! (see my web site, http://www.qsl.net/k5dh )

73 and good luck!
Dean K5DH

In article .com,
says...

I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F



Tim Shoppa May 7th 07 01:40 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
On May 7, 3:45 am, geek wrote:
Hello,

The aluminium that retail chassis are made from is a joke. Get some
1.6mm 5052-H14 from a local aluminium shop, a $30 brake and away you go.
You can make 5-7 for the cost of one retail ;-)


A factor of 5:1 in price?

My local sources charge about $5 per sq ft for 0.040" 5052-H14
aluminum.

A 17x10x3 chassis needs about 3 square feet.

That's $15 for materials, not counting wastage because the local
source only sells it in 4x8 feet sheets :-). I compare that to $25 for
a Hammond chassis of the same size already made and spot welded, and I
don't see as big (5:1 or 7:1) of a disparity in prices as you do.

Now, I can get little (square foot or two) aluminum cutoffs at some
scrap piles for a lot cheaper, and those work great for tiny little
subchassis or miniboxes, even better to do it myself there because
dimensions are often critical.

Maybe I'm buying really super expensive aluminum and you know where to
get it for $1 or so a square foot. If so, tell me where!

Tim.


Scott Dorsey May 7th 07 02:33 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Ross, NS7F wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?


Antique Electronics Supply, Allied Electronics, and Newark Electronics
all carry either the Hammond, Bud, or LMB chassis.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Doug, W7KF May 7th 07 05:48 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Ross, NS7F wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis?


That "Novice Special" is a good article. Reminds me of my first
transmitter, a 6C4 driving a 2E26. Got me a special, commemorative QSL
from the FCC. Apparently, I was 599 on 7446!

You are in luck! LMB is still around and still makes that very cabinet:
http://www.lmbheeger.com/products.asp?catid=18

I also like Mouser. Order something from them and you'll get catalogs
for a long time. Lots of parts..
http://www.mouser.com/

Also, MPJA has interesting items from time to time.
http://www.mpja.com/

73, OM.
--
Doug, W7KF

Highland Ham May 7th 07 07:46 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
The aluminium that retail chassis are made from is a joke. Get some
1.6mm 5052-H14 from a local aluminium shop, a $30 brake and away you go.
You can make 5-7 for the cost of one retail ;-)


A factor of 5:1 in price?

My local sources charge about $5 per sq ft for 0.040" 5052-H14
aluminum.

A 17x10x3 chassis needs about 3 square feet.

That's $15 for materials, not counting wastage because the local
source only sells it in 4x8 feet sheets :-). I compare that to $25 for
a Hammond chassis of the same size already made and spot welded, and I
don't see as big (5:1 or 7:1) of a disparity in prices as you do.

Now, I can get little (square foot or two) aluminum cutoffs at some
scrap piles for a lot cheaper, and those work great for tiny little
subchassis or miniboxes, even better to do it myself there because
dimensions are often critical.

Maybe I'm buying really super expensive aluminum and you know where to
get it for $1 or so a square foot. If so, tell me where!

==========================
Over the years I bought some large size sheets double sided PCB material
at flea markets.
Provided there are no heavy transformers ,both chassis and enclosure can
be made of the material.
Under chassis screened compartments can be easily included.


Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

Irv Finkleman May 7th 07 09:43 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Ross, NS7F wrote:

I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F

How about a sheet metal shop? I used to get mind made
for the price of a case of beer.

Irv VE6BP

AF6AY May 7th 07 11:46 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
On May 6, 4:36?pm, "Ross, NS7F" wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F


If you've been around electronics a while, you might remember the
"SeeZak" line of modular chassis sides and tops. LMB-Heeger
carries that same thing now: www.lmbheeger.com

Click on "OmniChassis" on their Products link page.

Chassis sides (sold in pairs) come in 2", 3", or 4" height with
lengths from [height] to 17" in increments of one inch. The
material is aluminum, 0.040" think. Chassis tops and bottoms
come in all dimensions from 4" x 4" to 17" x 17". Top/bottoms
are fastened to side pieces with small sheet metal screws
(holes provided) at one-inch increments. Side piece ends
snap together, final fastening by the screws through top/bottom
panels to the bent-over edges of side pieces.

Top/bottom panels thicknesses are 0.040", 0.050", or 0.063"
depending on their overall dimensions (13" x 13" and bigger
are 0.063" thick). One can use the smaller-length side pieces
to form in-chassis walls for shielding or extra mechanical
support. An advantage in hole drilling of tops/bottoms is that
panels can be mounted on scrap plywood for support (such
as in drill press) or punched via industrial punch presses
(hard to find those presses now).

Not cheap but they don't cost an arm and a leg either.
Another advantage is that making a mistake on hole
locations isn't a scrap-out of a whole chassis or klugey
retrofit...just use another panel or side piece. While the
aluminum alloy is "softer" than 2024, an assembly is as
robust mechanically as any fully-formed chassis bought as
a unit. I find them very useful in making near-production
quality prototypes since they turn out as neat as any
full-chassis version.

73, Len AF6AY


w9gb May 8th 07 02:22 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
LMB Heeger is still in business.

... and they still make the SQ-1

http://www.lmbheeger.com/products.asp?catid=18

LMB/Heeger, Inc.
6446 Flotilla St.
Commerce, CA 90040-1712
(323) 728-5108 Phone
(323) 728-4729 Phone
(323) 728-6913 Phone
(323) 728-4740 Fax



Office Hours
7:30 AM - 4:00 PM
Monday - Friday
Pacific Standard Time

"Ross, NS7F" wrote in message
oups.com...
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F




RapidRonnie May 8th 07 04:33 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
On May 6, 7:36 pm, "Ross, NS7F" wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F


Yes, buy or build a small sheet metal brake, or use one at a air
conditioning place or airport.


geek May 8th 07 06:43 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Hi Tim,

My local sources charge about $5 per sq ft for 0.040" 5052-H14
aluminum.

A 17x10x3 chassis needs about 3 square feet.


Bobs around between $2.75 and $3.15 CAD where I live in a trucking/farming
community. No shortage of full-sheet capable aluminium shops. Got 5 within
a 20 minute drive.


That's $15 for materials, not counting wastage because the local
source only sells it in 4x8 feet sheets :-). I compare that to $25 for
a Hammond chassis of the same size already made and spot welded, and I
don't see as big (5:1 or 7:1) of a disparity in prices as you do.


$25 for a 17x10x3 Hammond? You must be in the US. They are $45 here.

So, from my POV, buying retail chassis is just silly.

Cheers,

Gregg

Tim Shoppa May 8th 07 11:25 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
geek wrote:
Hi Tim,

My local sources charge about $5 per sq ft for 0.040" 5052-H14
aluminum.

A 17x10x3 chassis needs about 3 square feet.


Bobs around between $2.75 and $3.15 CAD where I live in a trucking/farming
community. No shortage of full-sheet capable aluminium shops. Got 5 within
a 20 minute drive.


Ahah! The great land of ALCAN.

$25 for a 17x10x3 Hammond? You must be in the US. They are $45 here.


Strange thing is, Hammond is a Canadian company! I lived in Canada for
two years myself and could not explain the economics either.

Tim.


John Doe May 8th 07 08:28 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Try CHARLES BYERS

He makes chassis of all sizes.
73's Howard W3CQH
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"RapidRonnie" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 6, 7:36 pm, "Ross, NS7F" wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where other
people get their chassis?


SNIP



[email protected] May 8th 07 09:00 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
On May 6, 5:36 pm, "Ross, NS7F" wrote:
I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F


Well, Ross.
The dates of the articles are about the time I got my novice license.
Back then we could go to a sheet metal shop and tell them the size of
the chassis ( box to them!) and they would cut it and fold it and spot
weld it. This was using galvanized sheet steel. I supposed aluminum
sheet was available, but cost more. I am sure you could go to a
similar sheet metal shop or heating/cooling shop and have them make a
box for you.

Another possibility is to watch Ebay for something that will work for
you. Although that might take a while.

Good luck.
Paul, KD7HB


geek May 9th 07 05:54 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
Hi Tim,

Strange thing is, Hammond is a Canadian company! I lived in Canada for
two years myself and could not explain the economics either.

Tim.


Our economics are like our politics - inexplicably stupid *rolls eyes*

It's cheaper for me to buy and import Hammond from Parts Express than it
is to buy from a dealer an hour away. Dumbfounds me too.

What IS a super deal are Chinese made rack mount cabs w/panel from RP
Electronics in Burnaby, BC.... thicker aluminium than the Hammond and $57
compared to ~$180 for the Hammond. I kicked one around (literally),
quality is comparable.

Cheers!

Gregg

Gudmundur June 21st 07 01:49 AM

where to buy some chassis?
 
In article .com,
says...

I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F


There is a guy in Dover Pa. named Charles Byers and he custom
builds chassis any size you want. He is a ham although I forget
his callsign. I do know he lives on Harmony Grove Road however.
Look him up.


Scott June 21st 07 12:16 PM

where to buy some chassis?
 
I get mine at Mouser Electronics here in the USA...

http://www.mouser.com/search/Refine....RefType=Header

Scott
N0EDV

gudmundur wrote:
In article .com,
says...

I would like to build some tube transmitters and am curious where
other people get their chassis? Article 1 (The Novice Special, from
the arrl website) calls for LMB SQ-1 cabinet (8.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 in)
which "comes complete with chassis and front panel".
Article 2 (A Three-Band One-Tube Novice Transmitter, from Dec '57 QST)
calls for a 2 x 7 x 13 in aluminum chassis enclosed in a 7 x 9 x 15 in
aluminum box.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and 73,
Ross, NS7F



There is a guy in Dover Pa. named Charles Byers and he custom
builds chassis any size you want. He is a ham although I forget
his callsign. I do know he lives on Harmony Grove Road however.
Look him up.


--
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)


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