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Gary July 21st 08 04:17 AM

the great heatsink search
 


I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao

Gary July 21st 08 05:34 AM

the great heatsink search
 
Pete KE9OA wrote:
Mouser. 532-244609B02

"Gary" wrote in message
...

I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006 handbook
and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save the
heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA amp as
well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a purveyor who
might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink is an AAVID
part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao




Apart from some teflon wire (thanks again Pete), Mouser had most of what
I needed. Unfortunately, they no longer carry said heatsink. Thanks
though. Other ideas ??

Gary

Pete KE9OA July 21st 08 06:30 AM

the great heatsink search
 
Mouser. 532-244609B02

"Gary" wrote in message
...


I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006 handbook
and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save the
heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA amp as
well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a purveyor who
might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink is an AAVID
part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao




Pete KE9OA July 21st 08 06:36 AM

the great heatsink search
 
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search through
these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need. there are
several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...


I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006 handbook
and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save the
heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA amp as
well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a purveyor who
might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink is an AAVID
part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao




Gary July 21st 08 09:44 AM

the great heatsink search
 
Pete KE9OA wrote:
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search through
these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need. there are
several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...

I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006 handbook
and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save the
heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA amp as
well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a purveyor who
might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink is an AAVID
part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao




Thanks for the advice. Mouser very nearly had a replacement. The unit
has horizontal fins instead of vertical and as my application is
convection-only, this likely tips the balance on effectiveness (safety).
Did find another site and it looks like a good one. It's Nebraska Sales
and Surplus. I've purchased from them before and have no complaints.
Thanks again for the quick replies.

Gary

Highland Ham July 21st 08 12:33 PM

the great heatsink search
 

Apart from some teflon wire (thanks again Pete), Mouser had most of what
I needed. Unfortunately, they no longer carry said heatsink. Thanks
though. Other ideas ??

Gary

===================================
For large heatsinks (perhaps not precisely the type you need ) flea
markets will be a likely source . Otherwise there might be an
electronics surplus store in your area .
Some time ago someone gave me a clapped-out (probably illegal) CB
amplifier (of Italian origin) with a heat sink to suit your project
.........however I am in Scotland- UK ,otherwise I would be happy to
send it to you .


Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


Gary July 21st 08 05:45 PM

the great heatsink search
 
Highland Ham wrote:

Apart from some teflon wire (thanks again Pete), Mouser had most of
what I needed. Unfortunately, they no longer carry said heatsink.
Thanks though. Other ideas ??

Gary

===================================
For large heatsinks (perhaps not precisely the type you need ) flea
markets will be a likely source . Otherwise there might be an
electronics surplus store in your area .
Some time ago someone gave me a clapped-out (probably illegal) CB
amplifier (of Italian origin) with a heat sink to suit your project
........however I am in Scotland- UK ,otherwise I would be happy to
send it to you .


Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


Thanks for the thoughts Frank. I would not have guessed this before the
fact but I'm finding that tracking down / scrounging these bits and
pieces is actually fun (I am also sure that there is great probability
that I will rue these words...). Thanks again all.

Gary

Tim Wescott July 21st 08 05:56 PM

the great heatsink search
 
Gary wrote:


I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao


Aavid makes so many heat sinks that you almost have to buy custom to get
what you need.

Usually your best bet with heatsinks for a one-off is to find one that
meets your needs and use it, even if it's not identically the same thing
as the plans.

If you can find one with specifications get one that matches the thermal
conductivity to the air as what you have; if you can't get one with
specifications look for about the same or greater total surface area and
fin spacing.

The handbook used to have directions on bending heatsinks from sheet --
you basically make a bunch of nested 'U's with heat sink compound
between. I don't know how well that works, or if they still do it. I
suspect that for natural convection you'll be fine with that.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

John Smith July 21st 08 06:34 PM

the great heatsink search
 
Gary wrote:


I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao


Don't worry about finding the exact, go the next bigger heatsink! You
will not be sorry you did.

While you are at it, consider mounting a muffin fan on the sink to push
air though the ribs (if the plans don't already call for one.) Again,
you won't be sorry you did!

I have not seen the plans you are speaking of, but I am taking it for
granted it is a leen-e-air.

Regards,
JS

W3CQH July 21st 08 07:06 PM

the great heatsink search
 

"Gary" wrote in message
...


I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006 handbook
and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save the
heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA amp as
well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a purveyor who
might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink is an AAVID
part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao


Have you tried:



DaveM July 22nd 08 01:31 AM

the great heatsink search
 
"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
Pete KE9OA wrote:
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search through
these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need. there are
several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...

I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are zillions
of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006 handbook
and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save the heatsink.
It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA amp as well. Anyone
have this beast in the junk bin or know of a purveyor who might?? I've
scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink is an AAVID part (#244609B02).
Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao




Thanks for the advice. Mouser very nearly had a replacement. The unit has
horizontal fins instead of vertical and as my application is convection-only,
this likely tips the balance on effectiveness (safety).
Did find another site and it looks like a good one. It's Nebraska Sales and
Surplus. I've purchased from them before and have no complaints. Thanks again
for the quick replies.

Gary


I don't have a copy or the 2006 handbook, so I can't visualize the heatsink that
you're looking for. Low resistance heatsinks are usually made from extrusions
and can be any of a number of designs.
Is there a photo in the article that shows the heatsink? Possible for you to
post a scan of it on alt.binaries.schematics.electronic? Also, the dimensions
of the heatsink would help to find a substitute and source.
If you're in or near the central Florida area, Skycraft usually has a couple
bins of heavy heatsinks that might suit the job. I bought a couple that
calculates to about 0.5 degC/watt each about a year ago. Last time I was in the
store (in February this year), they still had about 10 of them on the shelf.

You mentioned that it was also used on the FARA amp. Is there a link to a web
page that describes (hopefully with a photo) the amp?

Cheers!!
--
Dave M
MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters in the
address)

Experience: What you get when you don't get what you want



Pete KE9OA July 22nd 08 05:15 AM

the great heatsink search
 
Oh, that's ok Gary. I hope you find the one you are looking for. Most of
that stuff from Surplus Sales of Nebraska came from the Inventory Disposal
sale from Rockwell-Collins, which means that it is of good quality.

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
Pete KE9OA wrote:
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search
through these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need.
there are several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out
for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...

I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao




Thanks for the advice. Mouser very nearly had a replacement. The unit
has horizontal fins instead of vertical and as my application is
convection-only, this likely tips the balance on effectiveness (safety).
Did find another site and it looks like a good one. It's Nebraska Sales
and Surplus. I've purchased from them before and have no complaints.
Thanks again for the quick replies.

Gary




Gary July 22nd 08 08:36 AM

the great heatsink search
 
Pete KE9OA wrote:
Oh, that's ok Gary. I hope you find the one you are looking for. Most of
that stuff from Surplus Sales of Nebraska came from the Inventory Disposal
sale from Rockwell-Collins, which means that it is of good quality.

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
Pete KE9OA wrote:
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search
through these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need.
there are several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out
for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao

Thanks for the advice. Mouser very nearly had a replacement. The unit
has horizontal fins instead of vertical and as my application is
convection-only, this likely tips the balance on effectiveness (safety).
Did find another site and it looks like a good one. It's Nebraska Sales
and Surplus. I've purchased from them before and have no complaints.
Thanks again for the quick replies.

Gary



Thanks one and all for the suggestions. Started soldering this evening
so there's no turning back...

Gary

[email protected] July 23rd 08 04:12 PM

the great heatsink search
 


Gary wrote:
Pete KE9OA wrote:
Oh, that's ok Gary. I hope you find the one you are looking for. Most of
that stuff from Surplus Sales of Nebraska came from the Inventory Disposal
sale from Rockwell-Collins, which means that it is of good quality.

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
Pete KE9OA wrote:
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search
through these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need.
there are several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out
for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao

Thanks for the advice. Mouser very nearly had a replacement. The unit
has horizontal fins instead of vertical and as my application is
convection-only, this likely tips the balance on effectiveness (safety).
Did find another site and it looks like a good one. It's Nebraska Sales
and Surplus. I've purchased from them before and have no complaints.
Thanks again for the quick replies.

Gary



Thanks one and all for the suggestions. Started soldering this evening
so there's no turning back...

Gary


I've found several good heatsinks and power supplies at Goodwill. I
purchased an old stereo amp that had 6 100 watt channels. The last one
I bought cost less than $20. I am really surprised at the way people
cast things like this off. It is now the heart of my home
entertainment system.

Jimmie

RFI-EMI-GUY July 24th 08 02:57 AM

the great heatsink search
 
wrote:

Gary wrote:
Pete KE9OA wrote:
Oh, that's ok Gary. I hope you find the one you are looking for. Most of
that stuff from Surplus Sales of Nebraska came from the Inventory Disposal
sale from Rockwell-Collins, which means that it is of good quality.

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
Pete KE9OA wrote:
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search
through these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need.
there are several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out
for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao
Thanks for the advice. Mouser very nearly had a replacement. The unit
has horizontal fins instead of vertical and as my application is
convection-only, this likely tips the balance on effectiveness (safety).
Did find another site and it looks like a good one. It's Nebraska Sales
and Surplus. I've purchased from them before and have no complaints.
Thanks again for the quick replies.

Gary

Thanks one and all for the suggestions. Started soldering this evening
so there's no turning back...

Gary


I've found several good heatsinks and power supplies at Goodwill. I
purchased an old stereo amp that had 6 100 watt channels. The last one
I bought cost less than $20. I am really surprised at the way people
cast things like this off. It is now the heart of my home
entertainment system.

Jimmie

\

Don't forget old land mobile radios like MASTR II, Mitrek or SyntorX for
some heat sinks with great thermal mass. You may need some metalworking
tools to cut off and smooth down the mating area neded for your device
layout.

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P


Dave M July 24th 08 10:52 PM

the great heatsink search
 
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:36:31 -0700, Gary wrote:

Pete KE9OA wrote:
Oh, that's ok Gary. I hope you find the one you are looking for. Most of
that stuff from Surplus Sales of Nebraska came from the Inventory Disposal
sale from Rockwell-Collins, which means that it is of good quality.

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
Pete KE9OA wrote:
start he

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....N=1323038&No=0

if you know the parameters of the heat sink in question, a search
through these pages on the Mouser website should give you what you need.
there are several pages to go through, so you do have your work cut out
for you!

Pete

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that if you're looking for any heatsink that there are
zillions of places to pick one up and that if you are looking for
a particular sink that it is a futile task. With a little help
from my friends, I'm putting together the mosfet amp in the 2006
handbook and I've pretty much secured everything on the parts list save
the heatsink. It is the same unit that was used on the original FARA
amp as well. Anyone have this beast in the junk bin or know of a
purveyor who might?? I've scoured the web and no joy so far. The sink
is an AAVID part (#244609B02). Thanks in advance all.

Gary
ka9rao

Thanks for the advice. Mouser very nearly had a replacement. The unit
has horizontal fins instead of vertical and as my application is
convection-only, this likely tips the balance on effectiveness (safety).
Did find another site and it looks like a good one. It's Nebraska Sales
and Surplus. I've purchased from them before and have no complaints.
Thanks again for the quick replies.

Gary



Thanks one and all for the suggestions. Started soldering this evening
so there's no turning back...

Gary


OK, I found a copy of the article that you're building. If it's the same
article that's in the 2007 handbook (titled "A Broadband HF Amplifier Using
Low-cost MOSFETs" bu WA2EBY), then maybe I can help with the heatsink.
I found a photo in the article that shows pretty clearly the heatsink as mounted
on the rear of the chassis. I'm guessing at the dimensions of the rear panel of
the chassis. The box is given as 3.5x6x8, but it's hard to conclude whether the
rear panel is 3.5x6 or 3.5x8.
I assumed the rear panel to be 3.5x8, did a bit of extrapolation and estimated
the size of the heatsink to be approximately 5.5" wide, 2.75" tall, 1.25" fin
height.
Newark shows a heatsink meeting those measurements (approximately) at
http://www.newark.com/54M0782/fans-h...ik-sk-85-75-sa,
and appears to be in stock. The given measurements for that heatsink are 160mm
wide, 75mm tall and 40mm fin height, with a thermal resistance of 1.2 degC/watt.
No clear area in the middle, so you'll likely have to drill & tap the base to
mount the transistors.

The heatsink itself is reasonable enough, but the caveat is that it's stocked in
the UK and drop shipped from there, with a $20 handling fee.

I stopped searching when I found that heatsink, so you might do a more thorough
search using those approximate measurements and find something suitable, and
less expensive.

Cheers!!!
==============

Dave M

Never take a laxative and a sleeping pill at the same time!!


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