John Ferrell wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:40:35 GMT, "RadioGuy"
wrote:

Childrens books (including Alfred Morgan's) before 1985 are being destroyed
due to lead content in the ink as per Consumer Product Safety Commission
ruling.

Please review article: http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0212wo.html

RG

You need to read "Fahrenfeit 451" by Ray Bradbury I think.

John Ferrell W8CCW

It was two books. Boys' [First] Book of Radio and Electronics and

Boys' Second Book of Radio and Electronics.

I learned a lot more from The Radio Amateur's Handbook

"dave" wrote in message
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John Ferrell wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:40:35 GMT, "RadioGuy"
wrote:

Childrens books (including Alfred Morgan's) before 1985 are being
destroyed due to lead content in the ink as per Consumer Product Safety
Commission ruling.

Please review article: http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0212wo.html

RG
You need to read "Fahrenfeit 451" by Ray Bradbury I think.

John Ferrell W8CCW

It was two books. Boys' [First] Book of Radio and Electronics and

Boys' Second Book of Radio and Electronics.

I learned a lot more from The Radio Amateur's Handbook

I wonder... what's to stop them from going beyond children books? Besides,
what is a children's book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_books I
never did find a suitable definition and for the precocious child it could
be anything. And for that matter, what about any pre-1985 book in the
vicinity of children. I can see how can this develop over time... handlers
of books will slowly avoid any pre-1985 books from fear of liability
suits---perhaps even history books printed in the 1940's. Consider the
overall results 50 years from now.

Yes... I went through the first, second, third and fourth 'Boy's Book'. I
built the crystal sets, one transistor CK722 amplifier, one tube amplifier
and Geiger Counter. I wish I could afford collecting those old Morgan books
but at $100 or more each forget it. Then there were those countless ARRL
publications from QST to the 'Handbook' with those big B&W photos of
goregous point-to-point wiring with lead ink that I would drool over for
countless hours.

With regard to '451', the theme of censorship has appeared in many novels in
widely different plots... but they all express censorship and attempt the
control of thoughts and ideas. The CPSC ruling is a disturbing precedent!

Perhaps the digitizing of books may be a safe recourse---but who can be
trusted to make the selections of what to digitize, who will maintain and
oversee electronic libraries?

RG

On Mar 27, 7:57*am, "RadioGuy" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

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John Ferrell wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:40:35 GMT, "RadioGuy"
wrote:

Childrens books (including Alfred Morgan's) before 1985 are being
destroyed due to lead content in the ink as per Consumer Product Safety
Commission ruling.

Please review article:http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0212wo.html

RG
You need to read "Fahrenfeit 451" *by Ray Bradbury I think.

John Ferrell W8CCW

It was two books. *Boys' [First] Book of Radio and Electronics and

Boys' Second Book of Radio and Electronics.

I learned a lot more from The Radio Amateur's Handbook

I wonder... what's to stop them from going beyond children books? *Besides,
what is a children's bookhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_booksI
never did find a suitable definition and for the precocious child it could
be anything. *And for that matter, what about any pre-1985 book in the
vicinity of children. *I can see how can this develop over time... handlers
of books will slowly avoid any pre-1985 books from fear of liability
suits---perhaps even history books printed in the 1940's. *Consider the
overall results 50 years from now.

Yes... I went through the first, second, third and fourth 'Boy's Book'. *I
built the crystal sets, one transistor CK722 amplifier, one tube amplifier
and Geiger Counter. *I wish I could afford collecting those old Morgan books
but at $100 or more each forget it. *Then there were those countless ARRL
publications from QST to the 'Handbook' with those big B&W photos of
goregous point-to-point wiring with lead ink that I would drool over for
countless hours.

With regard to '451', the theme of censorship has appeared in many novels in
widely different plots... but they all express censorship and attempt the
control of thoughts and ideas. *The CPSC ruling is a disturbing precedent!

Perhaps the digitizing of books may be a safe recourse---but who can be
trusted to make the selections of what to digitize, who will maintain and
oversee electronic libraries?

RG- Hide quoted text -

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I had all the Boy's Books, I bought them from a local library for $.50
a piece. unfortunately they were all lost along with 50s and 60s ARRL
handbooks when my rental storage got brooken into.

Jimmie

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/cpsia.asp

"Bill M" wrote in message
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http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/cpsia.asp

A careful reading still implies that vendors should be suspious
of items made prior to 1985. That date is the crux of matter.
Vendors selling used post 1985 items would be free to assume they
are safe....

"Bill M" wrote in message
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http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/cpsia.asp

Good link and the references were appreciated though the discussion was a
bit confusing.

So in other words to all those that have suspect items; err on the safe side
and discard them safely so as to avoid any possible infractions and
liabilities.

"RadioGuy" wrote in message
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"Bill M" wrote in message
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http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/cpsia.asp

Good link and the references were appreciated though the discussion was a
bit confusing.

So in other words to all those that have suspect items; err on the safe
side and discard them safely so as to avoid any possible infractions and
liabilities.

I guess CPSC isn't stopping with books... now its all terrain vehicles!

It seems that CPSC is using lead as a method of legislating anything 'they'
don't want out of existence by claiming that it is unsafe for childeren. I
don't see this trend stopping anytime soon---it will be interesting to see
whats next.

RadioGuy wrote:
"RadioGuy" wrote in message
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"Bill M" wrote in message
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http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/cpsia.asp
Good link and the references were appreciated though the discussion was a
bit confusing.

So in other words to all those that have suspect items; err on the safe
side and discard them safely so as to avoid any possible infractions and
liabilities.

I guess CPSC isn't stopping with books... now its all terrain vehicles!


Where did that come from?


It seems that CPSC is using lead as a method of legislating anything 'they'
don't want out of existence by claiming that it is unsafe for childeren. I
don't see this trend stopping anytime soon---it will be interesting to see
whats next.


See that red dot that says "false"?


Confusing language and the law of unintended consequences is the
problem, no vast conspiracy to deprive people of their old books or kids
clothing. So it's been delayed. Maybe we can now go back to chemtrails
or something......

RadioGuy wrote:


Perhaps the digitizing of books may be a safe recourse---but who can be
trusted to make the selections of what to digitize, who will maintain and
oversee electronic libraries?

RG


Isn't the whole point of the internet the fact that there are no
gatekeepers?

PHD at work how are we going to keep the wormed?

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...their-shelves/