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On May 15, 12:32*am, raypsi wrote:
Hey OM: Back that far they been using PLL for FM demod. Only because they needed to demod stereo phase, at 15 some Khz. Find the slope in that PLL and it'll detect AM. But most osc's in those things are only good to 110Mhz, with 10.7 Mhz IF, *that'll get you to 120.7Mhz You just can't make the capacitance of the circuit go away with a coil. If you are lucky the airport your near will be within 108 to 120.7 Mhz You might as well just build a converter, like back in the day when FM first came out they used a converter to take 88 to 108 MHz and put it on the AM *band. All you did was plug the box into the antenna of your AM car radio and viola' FM and with a reverb you could even simulate stereo. That was b4 8 track tape decks. Heck I made a living making and selling a converter for police band 453Mhz to AM radio band you could actually tune 4 police channels in the Detroit, MI USA area with the converter and any AM radio. We used a CB crystal for the oscillator multiplied it up to 452 Mhz and viola' police band on any AM radio. the converter was the size of a pack of cigarettes. This link will give you an idea now a days things are a lot easier:http://tinyurl.com/qwk9pw 73 OM de n8zu On May 14, 8:41*pm, JIMMIE wrote: On May 14, 8:24*pm, (Dave Platt) wrote: In article , Bill M wrote: Also, if I remember correctly, aircraft use AM in the 108-136 MHz range. * So modifying the 88-108 MHz FM portion of the receiver wouldn't work. * Doesn't really matter much since you can slope tune it. IIRC, slope tuning can be used to allow an AM receiver to demodulate FM (albeit somewhat crudely). Does it work in reverse? *Can you offset-tune an FM receiver, and get its discriminator to demodulate an AM carrier-and-sidebands? Seems to me that this wouldn't necessarily work... the huge-amounts-of-gain-and-then-clip-the-result architecture of an FM's IF strip is going to equalize out the amplitude variations in the AM signal pretty effectively, won't it? -- Dave Platt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: *http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior * I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will * * *boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! If an FM radio has a decent amount of limiting forget about receiving FM but if the limiting can be removed or it doesnt have too much you can receive AM on an FM receiver thought it may be fairly distored but it most likely will be copyable. For example I have an ICOM two meter FM *transceiver that *will tune the VHF aircraft frequencies. Sorry but I forget the model # at present I bought it about 15 years ago and havent tused it in 10 years. Jimmie- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remember when those things were around. There was a group of my friends who like to do a little street racing so we used it to keep up with where the police were. We also used CB radio to talk to each other. When we found out the police were on to us planing races on CB we got where we would pass the mike around and pretend like we were having a race and watch them run all over town. The things we had to do back then to keep intertained. Jimmie |
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