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Hi all,
I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike |
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In message , amdx
writes Hi all, I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike This it ? http://www.frars.org.uk/cgi-bin/render.pl?pageid=1085 73 Brian GM4DIJ -- Brian Howie |
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![]() "Brian Howie" wrote in message ... In message , amdx writes Hi all, I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike This it ? http://www.frars.org.uk/cgi-bin/render.pl?pageid=1085 73 Brian GM4DIJ -- Brian Howie A piece of Sage Wireline and a PCB to terminate it would be easier. Chris |
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![]() "Brian Howie" wrote in message ... In message , amdx writes Hi all, I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike This it ? http://www.frars.org.uk/cgi-bin/render.pl?pageid=1085 73 Brian GM4DIJ -- Brian Howie Thanks for the site Brian, that is not the one I was thinking though. Jeff found the one I wanted, http://pe2er.nl/wifiswr/index.htm Mike |
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Brian Howie wrote:
In message , amdx writes Hi all, I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike This it ? http://www.frars.org.uk/cgi-bin/render.pl?pageid=1085 73 Brian GM4DIJ This was a cool hamradio site, to my mind. I enjoyed the puzzle about the unbalanced bridge current. A clear simple description of Thevenin versus Kirchoff. Thanks Brian W |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:23 -0500, "amdx" wrote:
Hi all, I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike This is a copy of my reply to your duplicate posting to alt.internet.wireless. Please don't do that again: This one? http://pe2er.nl/wifiswr/index.htm or one of these: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/appendixF.html What I do is use a return loss bridge as in: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/pics/rtrn_loss_bridge.png I've built several out of chip resistors and junk parts. I have one that works well up to about 8GHz. Great for testing antennas. That's what's inside a Telonic Rho-tector (which can usually be found on eBay for cheap). A few models go up to 2.4Ghz. You'll also *might* need a microwave load or three. 50 ohms for a reference, but also some other known values for calibration. The problem is that you'll need an RF sweep generator to use this effectively. It's also not a VNA (vector network analyzer) so it won't tell you if any reactance is capacitive or inductive. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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![]() "Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:23 -0500, "amdx" wrote: Hi all, I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike This is a copy of my reply to your duplicate posting to alt.internet.wireless. Please don't do that again: Sorry, I thought about putting it on these other groups just as I hit send. This one? http://pe2er.nl/wifiswr/index.htm or one of these: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/appendixF.html What I do is use a return loss bridge as in: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/pics/rtrn_loss_bridge.png I've built several out of chip resistors and junk parts. I have one that works well up to about 8GHz. Great for testing antennas. That's what's inside a Telonic Rho-tector (which can usually be found on eBay for cheap). A few models go up to 2.4Ghz. You'll also *might* need a microwave load or three. 50 ohms for a reference, but also some other known values for calibration. The problem is that you'll need an RF sweep generator to use this effectively. It's also not a VNA (vector network analyzer) so it won't tell you if any reactance is capacitive or inductive. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:23 -0500, "amdx" wrote:
Hi all, I saw a site where a fellow designed a unit to measure impedance at 2.4 ghz, for use on wifi antennas. I don't recall if it was return loss or impedance. It gave detailed instructions on how to build and he also had ready built units for sale. I think it was a ham that designed the unit. I also think he was not in the states, possibly a P or PY call sign, but the memory is not good! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike For the price of 1 tranceiver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0w5U0Xj1MU w. |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:22:17 +0200, Helmut Wabnig hwabnig@ .- --- -.
dotat wrote: For the price of 1 tranceiver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0w5U0Xj1MU Clever but I think the OP wanted test equipment, not tuning methods. Also, I noticed that the markers were set to 2400.500 and 2900.500MHz instead of US band limits of 2400.0 and 2483.5Mhz. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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![]() "Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message ... On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:22:17 +0200, Helmut Wabnig hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat wrote: For the price of 1 tranceiver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0w5U0Xj1MU Clever but I think the OP wanted test equipment, not tuning methods. Also, I noticed that the markers were set to 2400.500 and 2900.500MHz instead of US band limits of 2400.0 and 2483.5Mhz. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 So did the (plexiglas?) change the velocity factor for tuning. Ya, I'll take his test equipment. Mike |
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