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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:22:28 -0700 (PDT), "dave.harper"
wrote: On Mar 23, 3:00*pm, John Larkin wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:39:59 -0700 (PDT), "dave.harper" wrote: I'm trying to come up with a filter or converter that takes a square wave input and outputs something closer to a sign wave (varying between ~1.9kHz and 2.1kHz). *It can have some distortion, but I'm trying to eliminate the sharp leading and trailing edge. *One option I'm pursuing is a bandpass filter (2 caps and 2 resistors), which looks to give a reasonable output, but still not quite as smooth as I'd like. A lowpass filter is appropriate. You're trying to kill the higher (odd) harmonics but there's no signal below the fundamental, excepting DC maybe. A dual-stage RC lowpass would be pretty good, if you set the -3 dB point around 2 KHz. A higher-order filter, active or LC, would be even better. An LC filter isn't unreasonable at 2 KHz. John I modeled a few low pass filters, and think this is the best solution. I have 3 RC low-pass filters and the output looks relatively sine-like. Thanks to everyone that provided good suggestions! Here's the schematic in LTSpice (comments appreciated): Version 4 SHEET 1 1476 680 WIRE 592 -608 0 -608 WIRE -80 -528 -160 -528 WIRE -80 -496 -80 -528 WIRE -160 -464 -160 -528 WIRE 464 -368 32 -368 WIRE 144 -304 80 -304 WIRE 80 -256 80 -304 WIRE 144 -240 144 -304 WIRE 160 -240 144 -240 WIRE 416 -240 416 -256 WIRE 416 -240 384 -240 WIRE -160 -176 -160 -400 WIRE 0 -176 0 -608 WIRE 0 -176 -160 -176 WIRE 160 -176 0 -176 WIRE 464 -176 464 -368 WIRE 464 -176 384 -176 WIRE -592 -144 -592 -192 WIRE -544 -144 -592 -144 WIRE -432 -144 -464 -144 WIRE -352 -144 -352 -192 WIRE -352 -144 -432 -144 WIRE -352 -112 -352 -144 WIRE 160 -112 96 -112 WIRE 592 -112 592 -608 WIRE 592 -112 384 -112 WIRE -592 -96 -592 -144 WIRE -432 -96 -432 -144 WIRE 32 -96 32 -368 WIRE 32 -96 -160 -96 WIRE 160 -48 144 -48 WIRE 448 -48 384 -48 WIRE -592 16 -592 -16 WIRE -432 16 -432 -16 WIRE -352 16 -352 -48 WIRE 448 16 448 -48 WIRE -160 32 -160 -16 WIRE 144 32 144 -48 WIRE 144 32 -160 32 WIRE 144 80 144 32 WIRE 208 80 144 80 WIRE 448 128 448 80 WIRE 96 160 96 -112 WIRE 96 240 -64 240 WIRE -64 256 -64 240 WIRE 96 288 96 240 WIRE -64 336 -224 336 WIRE -224 352 -224 336 WIRE -64 384 -64 336 WIRE -224 432 -384 432 WIRE -224 480 -224 432 FLAG -592 16 0 FLAG 80 -256 0 FLAG -592 -192 +5V FLAG 416 -256 +5V FLAG -352 16 0 FLAG -432 16 0 FLAG -352 -192 +2.5V FLAG 448 128 0 FLAG -80 -496 0 FLAG 208 80 +5V FLAG -64 448 0 FLAG 96 352 0 FLAG -224 544 0 SYMBOL voltage -592 -112 R0 WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0 WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0 WINDOW 0 -66 54 Left 0 WINDOW 3 47 51 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName V1 SYMATTR Value 5 SYMBOL res -560 -128 R270 WINDOW 0 32 56 VTop 0 WINDOW 3 0 56 VBottom 0 SYMATTR InstName R6 SYMATTR Value 1k SYMBOL res -448 -112 R0 SYMATTR InstName R7 SYMATTR Value 1k SYMBOL polcap -368 -112 R0 SYMATTR InstName C3 SYMATTR Value 10µ SYMBOL Misc\\NE555 272 -144 R0 SYMATTR InstName U1 SYMBOL cap 432 16 R0 SYMATTR InstName C1 SYMATTR Value 10nF SYMBOL res -176 -192 R0 SYMATTR InstName R2 SYMATTR Value 33500 SYMBOL res -176 -112 R0 SYMATTR InstName R1 SYMATTR Value 1000 SYMBOL cap -176 -464 R0 SYMATTR InstName C2 SYMATTR Value .01µF SYMBOL cap -80 384 R0 SYMATTR InstName C4 SYMATTR Value .08µF SYMBOL res -80 240 R0 SYMATTR InstName R3 SYMATTR Value 1000 SYMBOL cap 80 288 R0 SYMATTR InstName C10 SYMATTR Value .08µF SYMBOL res 80 144 R0 SYMATTR InstName R8 SYMATTR Value 1000 SYMBOL cap -240 480 R0 SYMATTR InstName C11 SYMATTR Value .08µF SYMBOL res -240 336 R0 SYMATTR InstName R12 SYMATTR Value 1000 TEXT -648 -472 Left 0 !.tran 0 5ms 0 1u TEXT -648 -432 Left 0 !.ic V(in1)=2.7 TEXT -648 -512 Left 0 ;555 Radio Modem Your RC values could be optimized. Try using successively bigger resistors and correspondingly smaller caps in successive stages. As is, each filter stage heavily loads the previous one. These RCs each have an unloaded 3 dB point of about 2 KHz, so three in a row will lose about 9 dB. Making the taus a little shorter will increase output at the expense of distortion. I'd expect a 3-pole LC filter to be a lot better. John |
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