Parasitic Oscillation
 

Even though it does not appear on the schematic diagram, every tube-type
HF amplifier has a resonant circuit in its anode circuitry that resonates
somewhere in the VHF region. This called a parasitic resonance. Whenever
the DC anode current changes, the parasitic circuit rings - much like a
struck bell and generates a smallish damped wave signal at the VHF
resonance point. - note - this is the same principle that enabled spark
transmtters to produce RF from a DC source.
Since all tubes have feedback C between the output (anode) and the input
(cathode for cathode-driven and grid for grid driven), the damped-wave VHF
signal is amplified - whereupon some of the amplified signal can be
fedback again and re-amplified -- resulting in oscillation. Because
tube gain is pettty much tube-transconductance x the resistive load (RL)
on the anode, one way to reduce the chance of VHF oscillation is to
artifically reduce the VHF gain of the tube by lowering the VHF-RL
presented to the anode by the parasitic resonance. This is done by
decreasing the VHF-Q of the parasitic resonance circuit. In other words,
to decrease Q, increase R. Traditionally this has been done by winding a
Cu wire coil around a carbon-comp resistor and soldering the coil in
parallel with the resistor. In a typical 2. 3-500Z amplifier this
configuration produces a Q of c. 5 at 100MHz. Misfortunately a Q of 5 is
not quite low enough to reduce VHF gain enough so that oscillation can not
be sustained It apparently takes a Q of 2 at 100MHz to achieve
acceptable VHF stability. One way to decrease Q involves exchanging the
highly-conductive Cu wire for highly-resistive Ni-Cr wire This simple
change results in a Q of c. 2 at 100MHz as measured on a HP 4191A
Z-analyzer. By using two Ni-Cr VHF suppressors per 2-500z, Q can be
further reduced to c. 1.5.
- end

--
Richard L. Measures. 805-386-3734,AG6K, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

.. *Misfortunately a Q of 5 is
not quite low enough to reduce VHF gain enough so that oscillation can not
be sustained *It apparently takes a Q of *2 at 100MHz to achieve
acceptable VHF stability. *One way to decrease Q involves exchanging the
highly-conductive Cu wire for highly-resistive Ni-Cr wire * This simple
change results in a Q of c. 2 at 100MHz as measured on a HP 4191A
Z-analyzer. * *By using *two Ni-Cr *VHF suppressors per 2-500z, Q can be
further reduced to c. 1.5.
- *end

--
Richard L. Measures. 805-386-3734,AG6K,www.somis.org

Hey OM:

When I made a living selling tubes, my fav best method of stopping VHF
parasitic oscillations was when the transconductance went kaput from
the little grid wire overheating and burning out. I made a living off
of parasitics.

sum gr8 articles on your website too OM.

73,
de n8zu.

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article
,
raypsi wrote:

. =A0Misfortunately a Q of 5 is
not quite low enough to reduce VHF gain enough so that oscillation can no=
t
be sustained =A0It apparently takes a Q of =A02 at 100MHz to achieve
acceptable VHF stability. =A0One way to decrease Q involves exchanging th=
e
highly-conductive Cu wire for highly-resistive Ni-Cr wire =A0 This simple
change results in a Q of c. 2 at 100MHz as measured on a HP 4191A
Z-analyzer. =A0 =A0By using =A0two Ni-Cr =A0VHF suppressors per 2-500z, Q=
can be
further reduced to c. 1.5.
- =A0end

--
Richard L. Measures. 805-386-3734,AG6K,www.somis.org

Hey OM:

When I made a living selling tubes, my fav best method of stopping VHF
parasitic oscillations was when the transconductance went kaput from
the little grid wire overheating and burning out. I made a living off
of parasitics.

** chortle. And apparently so was Eimac since the Eimac markeing
rep,,Reid Brandon, reportedly complained to QST that I should never have
been told by Eimac engineer Willis B. Foote that 8877s can be damaged by
gold plating evaporating off the 8877's grid during an "oscillation
condition".

sum gr8 articles on your website too OM.

** Tnx Ray. 73



73,
de n8zu.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

Glad to see you here Rich. I have learned a lot from you in your articles &
your great help on the phone with my 3-500 amps that I couldn't stop a
parasitic in. Your kit you sent me along with a lot of literature cured that
amp & the suppressors don't burn up . Amps runs full out on 160 thru 10
mtrs. Again thanks for your help.
"• R. L. Measures." wrote in message
...
Even though it does not appear on the schematic diagram, every tube-type
HF amplifier has a resonant circuit in its anode circuitry that resonates
somewhere in the VHF region. This called a parasitic resonance. Whenever
the DC anode current changes, the parasitic circuit rings - much like a
struck bell and generates a smallish damped wave signal at the VHF
resonance point. - note - this is the same principle that enabled spark
transmtters to produce RF from a DC source.
Since all tubes have feedback C between the output (anode) and the input
(cathode for cathode-driven and grid for grid driven), the damped-wave VHF
signal is amplified - whereupon some of the amplified signal can be
fedback again and re-amplified -- resulting in oscillation. Because
tube gain is pettty much tube-transconductance x the resistive load (RL)
on the anode, one way to reduce the chance of VHF oscillation is to
artifically reduce the VHF gain of the tube by lowering the VHF-RL
presented to the anode by the parasitic resonance. This is done by
decreasing the VHF-Q of the parasitic resonance circuit. In other words,
to decrease Q, increase R. Traditionally this has been done by winding a
Cu wire coil around a carbon-comp resistor and soldering the coil in
parallel with the resistor. In a typical 2. 3-500Z amplifier this
configuration produces a Q of c. 5 at 100MHz. Misfortunately a Q of 5 is
not quite low enough to reduce VHF gain enough so that oscillation can not
be sustained It apparently takes a Q of 2 at 100MHz to achieve
acceptable VHF stability. One way to decrease Q involves exchanging the
highly-conductive Cu wire for highly-resistive Ni-Cr wire This simple
change results in a Q of c. 2 at 100MHz as measured on a HP 4191A
Z-analyzer. By using two Ni-Cr VHF suppressors per 2-500z, Q can be
further reduced to c. 1.5.
- end

--
Richard L. Measures. 805-386-3734,AG6K, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , "Howard K0ACF"
wrote:

Glad to see you here Rich. I have learned a lot from you in your articles &
your great help on the phone with my 3-500 amps that I couldn't stop a
parasitic in. Your kit you sent me along with a lot of literature cured that
amp & the suppressors don't burn up . Amps runs full out on 160 thru 10
mtrs. Again thanks for your help.

• ur welcome Howard. 73

"• R. L. Measures." wrote in message
...
Even though it does not appear on the schematic diagram, every tube-type
HF amplifier has a resonant circuit in its anode circuitry that resonates
somewhere in the VHF region. This called a parasitic resonance. Whenever
the DC anode current changes, the parasitic circuit rings - much like a
struck bell and generates a smallish damped wave signal at the VHF
resonance point. - note - this is the same principle that enabled spark
transmtters to produce RF from a DC source.
Since all tubes have feedback C between the output (anode) and the input
(cathode for cathode-driven and grid for grid driven), the damped-wave VHF
signal is amplified - whereupon some of the amplified signal can be
fedback again and re-amplified -- resulting in oscillation. Because
tube gain is pettty much tube-transconductance x the resistive load (RL)
on the anode, one way to reduce the chance of VHF oscillation is to
artifically reduce the VHF gain of the tube by lowering the VHF-RL
presented to the anode by the parasitic resonance. This is done by
decreasing the VHF-Q of the parasitic resonance circuit. In other words,
to decrease Q, increase R. Traditionally this has been done by winding a
Cu wire coil around a carbon-comp resistor and soldering the coil in
parallel with the resistor. In a typical 2. 3-500Z amplifier this
configuration produces a Q of c. 5 at 100MHz. Misfortunately a Q of 5 is
not quite low enough to reduce VHF gain enough so that oscillation can not
be sustained It apparently takes a Q of 2 at 100MHz to achieve
acceptable VHF stability. One way to decrease Q involves exchanging the
highly-conductive Cu wire for highly-resistive Ni-Cr wire This simple
change results in a Q of c. 2 at 100MHz as measured on a HP 4191A
Z-analyzer. By using two Ni-Cr VHF suppressors per 2-500z, Q can be
further reduced to c. 1.5.
- end

--
Richard L. Measures. 805-386-3734,AG6K, www.somis.org

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob. cheers

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob. cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

Check what is in your fullname config setting. There is a character
with hex value 95 there. But you don't have the matching character set
header that is supposed to tell what that character should mean.

(without a character set header, the default character set is 7-bit ASCII
which does not include 95)

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write

Richard-

Is it the OS, or is it the font?

I see a • character that may be different from what you see. What font
are you using?

Fred
K4DII

Parasitic Oscillation
 

Fred McKenzie wrote:
In article ,
(95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:

If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write

Richard-

Is it the OS, or is it the font?

I see a 95 character that may be different from what you see. What font
are you using?

His postings do not specify the character set he is using.
Probably it is Windows-1252. A more standard character set leaves the
character 95 undefined.

Parasitic Oscillation
 

On 03 Jul 2010 18:32:59 GMT, Rob wrote:

Fred McKenzie wrote:
In article ,
(95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:

If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write

Richard-

Is it the OS, or is it the font?

I see a 95 character that may be different from what you see. What font
are you using?

His postings do not specify the character set he is using.
Probably it is Windows-1252.

Most likely, if that code was supposed to represent a bullet.

A more standard character set leaves the
character 95 undefined.

Codes 80..9F hex and U+0080 .. U+009F belong to the C1 control area in
many standards (ISO 8859 and Unicode) and 95h represents "Message
Waiting" control code.

While I have used C1 controls to control terminals, I do not recall
that I would have used MW :-).

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob. cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

** I don't know Rob. I am using Apple's 10.4 OS.

Check what is in your fullname config setting.

** I am not using an OS with such a setting in the system prefs.

There is a character
with hex value 95 there. But you don't have the matching character set
header that is supposed to tell what that character should mean.

(without a character set header, the default character set is 7-bit ASCII
which does not include 95)

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Fred
McKenzie wrote:

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write

Richard-

Is it the OS, or is it the font?

I see a • character

• Correct Fred.

that may be different from what you see. What font
are you using?

Fred
K4DII

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Paul Keinanen
wrote:

On 03 Jul 2010 18:32:59 GMT, Rob wrote:

Fred McKenzie wrote:
In article ,
(95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:

If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write

Richard-

Is it the OS, or is it the font?

I see a 95 character that may be different from what you see. What font
are you using?

His postings do not specify the character set he is using.
Probably it is Windows-1252.

Most likely, if that code was supposed to represent a bullet.

• The bullet charcter on Apple's 10.4 OS is option-8 €
Shift-option k is •

A more standard character set leaves the
character 95 undefined.

Codes 80..9F hex and U+0080 .. U+009F belong to the C1 control area in
many standards (ISO 8859 and Unicode) and 95h represents "Message
Waiting" control code.

While I have used C1 controls to control terminals, I do not recall
that I would have used MW :-).


--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I see a • character

• Correct Fred.

Then it IS the font, even though you don't know what I see!

I've had problems with "high ASCII" characters over the years. One that
caused problems was Microsoft's use of such a character for the 1/2
fraction, which appears as an Omega symbol (‡) on my screen. Until I
realized what was happening, some Word documents didn't make sense.
Fortunately, newer versions of Word for Mac fixed the problem.

I think the point others were trying to make, is that your use of the
95 (•) character looks bad when viewed by many people. It isn't a
Unix character, it is a Macintosh font character that was in use before
OS X came on the scene.

Fred
K4DII

Parasitic Oscillation
 

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob. cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

** I don't know Rob. I am using Apple's 10.4 OS.

It doesn't matter anyway.
The OS has nothing to do with this.
Your news program is broken, or does not expect the use you make of it.

As your news program does not tell what character set you use, you should
limit your characters to the 00-7F range.

Check what is in your fullname config setting.

** I am not using an OS with such a setting in the system prefs.

Probably it is in your news program.
Somewhere you have set that your name, "95 R. L. Measures.", has to
appear above your news postings.
When you change that to "R. L. Measures" all trouble is gone.

And don't insert that character in replies either.

There is a character
with hex value 95 there. But you don't have the matching character set
header that is supposed to tell what that character should mean.

(without a character set header, the default character set is 7-bit ASCII
which does not include 95)

Parasitic Oscillation
 

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Paul Keinanen
wrote:

On 03 Jul 2010 18:32:59 GMT, Rob wrote:

Fred McKenzie wrote:
In article ,
(95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:

If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write

Richard-

Is it the OS, or is it the font?

I see a 95 character that may be different from what you see. What font
are you using?

His postings do not specify the character set he is using.
Probably it is Windows-1252.

Most likely, if that code was supposed to represent a bullet.

95 The bullet charcter on Apple's 10.4 OS is option-8 80
Shift-option k is 95

You apparently don't understand that what you see on your screen is
not what others see on their screen!

What do you see when you hit Shift-option k?
Don't just hit the keys, but explain what you see on the screen.

Also, check if you can set the news program to use a standard character
set, like ISO-8859-1 or Unicode UTF-8.

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Fred
McKenzie wrote:

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I see a • character

• Correct Fred.

Then it IS the font, even though you don't know what I see!

I've had problems with "high ASCII" characters over the years. One that
caused problems was Microsoft's use of such a character for the 1/2
fraction, which appears as an Omega symbol (‡) on my screen. Until I
realized what was happening, some Word documents didn't make sense.
Fortunately, newer versions of Word for Mac fixed the problem.

I think the point others were trying to make, is that your use of the
95 (•) character looks bad when viewed by many people. It isn't a
Unix character, it is a Macintosh font character that was in use before
OS X came on the scene.

** thanks Fred. Windows users also have with the ohms character I use.

Fred
K4DII

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob. cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

** I don't know Rob. I am using Apple's 10.4 OS.

It doesn't matter anyway.
The OS has nothing to do with this.
Your news program is broken, or does not expect the use you make of it.

** this Newsreader app is designed for Apple's OS10.4.

As your news program does not tell what character set you use, you should
limit your characters to the 00-7F range.

Check what is in your fullname config setting.

** I am not using an OS with such a setting in the system prefs.

Probably it is in your news program.

** I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

Somewhere you have set that your name, "95 R. L. Measures.", has to
appear above your news postings.
When you change that to "R. L. Measures" all trouble is gone.


And don't insert that character in replies either.

** About a third of the denizens in the Newsgroups I frequent have no
trouble seeing the bullet character (option 8) and the bitten apple
character (shift-option k).


cheers Rob

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Paul Keinanen
wrote:

On 03 Jul 2010 18:32:59 GMT, Rob wrote:

Fred McKenzie wrote:
In article ,
(95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:

If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write

Richard-

Is it the OS, or is it the font?

I see a 95 character that may be different from what you see.
What font
are you using?

His postings do not specify the character set he is using.
Probably it is Windows-1252.

Most likely, if that code was supposed to represent a bullet.

95 The bullet charcter on Apple's 10.4 OS is option-8 80
Shift-option k is 95

You apparently don't understand that what you see on your screen is
not what others see on their screen!

What do you see when you hit Shift-option k?

** a bitten apple

........

Also, check if you can set the news program to use a standard character
set, like ISO-8859-1 or Unicode UTF-8.

** Newswatcher X 2.2 is designed for Mac OS 10

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob. cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

** I don't know Rob. I am using Apple's 10.4 OS.

It doesn't matter anyway.
The OS has nothing to do with this.
Your news program is broken, or does not expect the use you make of it.

** this Newsreader app is designed for Apple's OS10.4.

The problems is not in the interface between your program and the
operating system, but in the interface between the program and usenet.

The program does not operate according to the conventions of usenet.

When it is not using the US-ASCII character set (00-7F), it should tell
the reader what character set it uses. This program doesn't, or you
have not configured it to do so.

As your news program does not tell what character set you use, you should
limit your characters to the 00-7F range.

Check what is in your fullname config setting.

** I am not using an OS with such a setting in the system prefs.

Probably it is in your news program.

** I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** About a third of the denizens in the Newsgroups I frequent have no
trouble seeing the bullet character (option 8) and the bitten apple
character (shift-option k).

Probably your friends all use the same software as you do.
It is not surprising that the same error it has when posting an article
is also present when reading it back.

Parasitic Oscillation
 

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
What do you see when you hit Shift-option k?

** a bitten apple

You probably see that only on a Mac.
Windows users most likely see a bullet.
Users of other systems see an unrecongnized character, shown on my
system as the hex value in angle brackets.

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

Richard-

There is a newer Newswatcher. I think the latest is version 3.5.3b3.

Rather than using a non-standard bitten apple as part of your name, why
not include an X-Face image in the headers? Under Special -
Personalities - Headers & Misc. - Signature & Headers - Extra News
Headers, paste the following into the box:

X-Face: nrf3{WQ6c&r+7@e)"]0G60`-6ND^)I2mI%)QGYa=9"=7jhd-g2|b3!Al0+
Ccb%xGQshhi|g@QU2$

That image is the bitten apple. It will show up in the heading of your
messages for those people who have a news reader with X-Face capability.

You can paste that into a text file and name it with the suffix,
..x-face. (filename.x-face) If you drop that file onto
GraphicConverter, it should open to show a large crude bitten apple.
When viewed small, it looks much better. GraphicConverter is capable of
creating additional x-face images.

Fred
K4DII

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
In article , Rob

wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:

The character 95 you seem to be fond of is not part of the character
set you use for your news postings.

** I did not send 95. I use a UNIX-based operating system. If you
were using a UNIX based OS you would see what I actually write Rob.
cheers

I am using Linux. But I guess that does not count as a UNIX based OS.

** I don't know Rob. I am using Apple's 10.4 OS.

It doesn't matter anyway.
The OS has nothing to do with this.
Your news program is broken, or does not expect the use you make of it.

** this Newsreader app is designed for Apple's OS10.4.

The problems is not in the interface between your program and the
operating system, but in the interface between the program and usenet.

The program does not operate according to the conventions of usenet.

When it is not using the US-ASCII character set (00-7F), it should tell
the reader what character set it uses. This program doesn't, or you
have not configured it to do so.

As your news program does not tell what character set you use, you should
limit your characters to the 00-7F range.

Check what is in your fullname config setting.

** I am not using an OS with such a setting in the system prefs.

Probably it is in your news program.

** I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** I did not enter 95, I entered shift-option-k.

** About a third of the denizens in the Newsgroups I frequent have no
trouble seeing the bullet character (option 8) and the bitten apple
character (shift-option k).

Probably your friends all use the same software as you do.

** they do not.

It is not surprising that the same error it has when posting an article
is also present when reading it back.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Rob
wrote:

95 R. L. Measures. wrote:
What do you see when you hit Shift-option k?

** a bitten apple

You probably see that only on a Mac.
Windows users most likely see a bullet.
Users of other systems see an unrecongnized character, shown on my
system as the hex value in angle brackets.

thanks Rob

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Parasitic Oscillation
 

In article , Fred
McKenzie wrote:

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I don't see fullname anything in Newswatcher 2.2 3b2 Peferences.

Richard-

There is a newer Newswatcher. I think the latest is version 3.5.3b3.

** that's MT Newswatcher, a more complex app that does killfiles. I have
had grief from the MT version in the past, and I don't killfile anyone so
I went back to the plain-vanilla version,

Rather than using a non-standard bitten apple as part of your name, why
not include an X-Face image in the headers? Under Special -
Personalities - Headers & Misc. - Signature & Headers - Extra News
Headers, paste the following into the box:

** there is no such thing in Newswatcher 2.2 Preferences.


X-Face: nrf3{WQ6c&r+7@e)"]0G60`-6ND^)I2mI%)QGYa=9"=7jhd-g2|b3!Al0+
Ccb%xGQshhi|g@QU2$

That image is the bitten apple. It will show up in the heading of your
messages for those people who have a news reader with X-Face capability.

You can paste that into a text file and name it with the suffix,
.x-face. (filename.x-face) If you drop that file onto
GraphicConverter,

** Is that a Mac app?

it should open to show a large crude bitten apple.
When viewed small, it looks much better. GraphicConverter is capable of
creating additional x-face images.

Fred
K4DII

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:17:20 -0700, (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

In article , Rob
wrote:

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** I did not enter 95, I entered shift-option-k.

After following this tread, I have no problems understanding why you
are banned from various moderated newsgroups :-).

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In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

Rather than using a non-standard bitten apple as part of your name, why
not include an X-Face image in the headers? Under Special -
Personalities - Headers & Misc. - Signature & Headers - Extra News
Headers, paste the following into the box:

** there is no such thing in Newswatcher 2.2 Preferences.

It isn't in the preferences. "Special" is an item in the menu bar.

I also used NewsWatcher for a long time but eventually updated to MTNW.
So far there are no problems I've noticed. I can't speak for the latest
version used with an older OS.

You can paste that into a text file and name it with the suffix,
.x-face. (filename.x-face) If you drop that file onto
GraphicConverter,

** Is that a Mac app?

Yes. It is a graphics app that has been around for a long time,
probably as long as NewsWatcher.

Fred

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In article , Fred
McKenzie wrote:

It isn't in the preferences. "Special" is an item in the menu bar.

It seems that NewsWatcher-X (2.2.3b2) has a place in preferences called
"Extra Header Lines". I tried pasting my x-face there, and will soon see
if it will successfully post the image to this message!

It appears that 2.2.3b2 does not display x-face images like the newer
version does.

By the way, the MTNW has an asterisk by each thread where you have posted
a message. Even when collapsed, you can tell which threads to check for
replies. With your way, you can only recognize your posting when it is
the first one.

Fred

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Paul Keinanen wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:17:20 -0700, (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

In article , Rob
wrote:

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** I did not enter 95, I entered shift-option-k.

After following this tread, I have no problems understanding why you
are banned from various moderated newsgroups :-).

Yes indeed!

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In article , Paul Keinanen
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:17:20 -0700, (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

In article , Rob
wrote:

The setting is either in the program or in the operating system.
The software does not invent the setting "95 R. L. Measures." by itself,
not even on an Apple. This information has been entered by you sometime.

** I did not enter 95, I entered shift-option-k.

After following this tread, I have no problems understanding why you
are banned from various moderated newsgroups :-).

chortle

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

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In article , Fred
McKenzie wrote:

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

Rather than using a non-standard bitten apple as part of your name, why
not include an X-Face image in the headers? Under Special -
Personalities - Headers & Misc. - Signature & Headers - Extra News
Headers, paste the following into the box:

** there is no such thing in Newswatcher 2.2 Preferences.

It isn't in the preferences. "Special" is an item in the menu bar.

• not on my copy


I also used NewsWatcher for a long time but eventually updated to MTNW.
So far there are no problems I've noticed. I can't speak for the latest
version used with an older OS.

• I'm still using a G4 Mac.

You can paste that into a text file and name it with the suffix,
.x-face. (filename.x-face) If you drop that file onto
GraphicConverter,

** Is that a Mac app?

Yes. It is a graphics app that has been around for a long time,
probably as long as NewsWatcher.

Fred

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org