Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups because I
critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements by a male
friend of the moderator/censor. The first moderated discussion group I
ever joined was AMPS - back in 1996. Within 3-hours I received a
telephone call from the moderator warning me that I would not be allowed
to critique statements from W8JI. When I asked if this rule applied to
sttements that were technically specious, I was told to go easy. Within a
few weeks I had been jackbooted off of AMPS. Thanks to complaints from
technically enlighted members of AMPS, I eventually got reinstated but I
was eventually jackbooted again for the same reason when we got a new
moderator/censor. This happened several times.
I can not understand why any sane amateur radio operator would want to
participate in a discussion group where specious statements from
boyfriends of the censor/modertor are shielded.

end

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:17:47 -0700, • R. L. Measures. wrote:

-- "jackbooted" rant snipped -

... and , your homebrew question is ?

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I can not understand why any sane amateur radio operator would want to
participate in a discussion group where specious statements from
boyfriends of the censor/modertor are shielded.

end

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

maybe it has something to do with the attitude you display on other
Newsgroups you frequent......

Me One who has been reading your stuff for YEARS.....

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

--
Bert Hyman W0RSB St. Paul, MN

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In article om,
Allodoxaphobia wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:17:47 -0700, • R. L. Measures. wrote:

-- "jackbooted" rant snipped -

... and , your homebrew question is ?

• zzzzzz zzzz zzzzzzzzzzzz

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

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In article , Me
wrote:

In article ,
(• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

I can not understand why any sane amateur radio operator would want to
participate in a discussion group where specious statements from
boyfriends of the censor/modertor are shielded.

end

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

maybe it has something to do with the attitude you display on other
Newsgroups you frequent......

• I'm pretty sure your assumption is spot-on Mr. ______? My problem is
that I can not keep quiet when a technical conclusion isn't right.

cheers

Me One who has been reading your stuff for YEARS.....

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

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In article , Bert Hyman
wrote:

In (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

• Bert H. are uou comfortable with the statement: that dipmeters are
useless because they simultaneously couple to everything within several
feet? or how anout: resistance wire has reverse RF skin-effect at HF?

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

IMD improvements
 

Question here for Richard and his wealth of experience, with all welcome
to comment of course;

Does the capacitor bypass techniques described in:

http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/lit/zener/index.html

,have a useful improvement in rf amplifier imd, or have any merit in
your opinion?

I took your advice on 10 ohm cathode resistors (unbypassed) in a cathode
driven sweep tube amp here, and 40m imd performance was substantially
improved.

Thanks for the sb220 improvements also, very beneficial on a HL2200 I
had in the past.

73

Adrian

vk4tux

IMD improvements
 

In article , Adrian
wrote:

Question here for Richard and his wealth of experience, with all welcome
to comment of course;

Does the capacitor bypass techniques described in:

http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/lit/zener/index.html

,have a useful improvement in rf amplifier imd, or have any merit in
your opinion?

• I've never done an A/B test to see if a substantial bypass C helps
Adrian but since a g-g 3-500Z is quite linear as long as its ZSAC is 75mA
to 100mA, there can be a fairly wide variation in bias potential before
distortion enters the picture.



I took your advice on 10 ohm cathode resistors (unbypassed) in a cathode
driven sweep tube amp here, and 40m imd performance was substantially
improved.

• good news.

Thanks for the sb220 improvements also, very beneficial on a HL2200 I
had in the past.

ur welcome Adrian

cheers

vk4tux

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?
--
Ian

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L.
Measures.) wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct
statements by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which
they find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

Maybe using the wrong news provider. Not all news providers have their
servers configured to handle moderated newsgroups properly.

Otherwise, have you asked the moderator?

--
Bert Hyman W0RSB St. Paul, MN

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L.
Measures.) wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct
statements by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which
they find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

Maybe using the wrong news provider. Not all news providers have their
servers configured to handle moderated newsgroups properly.

My news reader (Demon's 'Turnpike') has the 'moderated' box checked in
the configuration for rec.radio.amateur.moderated (which is the default
when you add a new NG which is moderated). I don't think that there have
been problems with other moderated NGs although, these days, I only post
occasionally in uk.legal.moderated.

Otherwise, have you asked the moderator?

No. Apathy is my middle name!
--
Ian

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

** You are not a drinkin' bud of the moderator / censor?
You are not a groupie of one of the alpha males in the Newsgroup?
You do not periodicly osculate the posterior of the moderator?
You do not belong to the same country club as the above?

chers Ian J.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In message , • R. L. Measures.
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

** You are not a drinkin' bud of the moderator / censor?
You are not a groupie of one of the alpha males in the Newsgroup?
You do not periodicly osculate the posterior of the moderator?
You do not belong to the same country club as the above?

I have received advice which leads me to suspect that my news machine
may, in the case of rec.radio.amateur.moderated, be sending my posts to
the wrong email address. If so, this would explain the problem.
--
Ian

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

On 4/07/2010 5:15 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , • R. L. Measures.
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which
they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

** You are not a drinkin' bud of the moderator / censor?
You are not a groupie of one of the alpha males in the Newsgroup?
You do not periodicly osculate the posterior of the moderator?
You do not belong to the same country club as the above?

I have received advice which leads me to suspect that my news machine
may, in the case of rec.radio.amateur.moderated, be sending my posts to
the wrong email address. If so, this would explain the problem.

Maybe, just maybe, your machine is doing you a big favour!!

Krypsis

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , • R. L. Measures.
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

** You are not a drinkin' bud of the moderator / censor?
You are not a groupie of one of the alpha males in the Newsgroup?
You do not periodicly osculate the posterior of the moderator?
You do not belong to the same country club as the above?

I have received advice which leads me to suspect that my news machine
may, in the case of rec.radio.amateur.moderated, be sending my posts to
the wrong email address. If so, this would explain the problem.

** okay

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In article , Krypsis
wrote:

On 4/07/2010 5:15 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , • R. L. Measures.
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Bert Hyman
writes
In (• R. L.
Measures.)
wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which
they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

** You are not a drinkin' bud of the moderator / censor?
You are not a groupie of one of the alpha males in the Newsgroup?
You do not periodicly osculate the posterior of the moderator?
You do not belong to the same country club as the above?

I have received advice which leads me to suspect that my news machine
may, in the case of rec.radio.amateur.moderated, be sending my posts to
the wrong email address. If so, this would explain the problem.

Maybe, just maybe, your machine is doing you a big favour!!

Krypsis

** Indeed K. My experience has been that moderated Newsgroups are not
infrequently moderated by wannabe channel cops and by guys whose wives
wear the pants.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

On 7/2/2010 8:59 PM, • R. L. Measures. wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.
..snip.. are you comfortable with the statement: that dipmeters are
useless because they simultaneously couple to everything within several
feet? or how anout: resistance wire has reverse RF skin-effect at HF?



Dip meters do couple to conductors in the near field.
Current density of resistive wire does increease with depth. Call that
reverse skin effect if you like?

Brian W

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On 7/3/2010 4:16 PM, • R. L. Measures. wrote:
/snip/

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

** You are not a drinkin' bud of the moderator / censor?
You are not a groupie of one of the alpha males in the Newsgroup?
You do not periodicly osculate the posterior of the moderator?
You do not belong to the same country club as the above?

chers Ian J.


Hmmm...you have been jackbooted off several moderated groups, you say?

Why ever would that happen? :-)

Brian W

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In article ,
wrote:

On 7/2/2010 8:59 PM, • R. L. Measures. wrote:

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.
..snip.. are you comfortable with the statement: that dipmeters are
useless because they simultaneously couple to everything within several
feet? or how anout: resistance wire has reverse RF skin-effect at HF?



Dip meters do couple to conductors in the near field.

€€ does the near field extend more than 6" from the pickup coil?


Current density of resistive wire does increease with depth. Call that
reverse skin effect if you like?

€€ That was not what he was asserting. His position was that the RF-R of
Ni-Cr resistance-wire behaved opposite to
that of Cu wire at HF. Do you agree Brian?

Brian W

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Moderated / Unmoderated ?
 

In article ,
wrote:

On 7/3/2010 4:16 PM, • R. L. Measures. wrote:
/snip/

Fellow amateur radio operators: Over the past 14-yrs I have been
jackbooted numerous times off of amateur radio discussion groups
because I critiqued somewhat less than technically correct statements
by a male friend of the moderator/censor.

Really?

Most people have absolutely no problem with moderated groups, which they
find pleasantly free of crap.

Over the past 10 years, on several occasions I've tried to post
perfectly innocuous and on-topic comments in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated. So far, not one has appeared. What am I
doing wrong?

** You are not a drinkin' bud of the moderator / censor?
You are not a groupie of one of the alpha males in the Newsgroup?
You do not periodicly osculate the posterior of the moderator?
You do not belong to the same country club as the above?

chers Ian J.


Hmmm...you have been jackbooted off several moderated groups, you say?

Why ever would that happen? :-)

** Sacred cow barbeques.

Brian W

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org