Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. Magnetic
shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:00:49 -0800, Frank wrote:

Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. Magnetic
shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

Magnetic fields are hard to shield. In a power transformer, it would be
more effective to use more iron in the core and more turns in the
windings to reduce the flux density. While a steel shell probably
provides a limited amount of shielding, it's more likely there to provide
mechanical protection. At the same time, it gives a better appearance.

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Jim Mueller

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On Sun, 4 Mar 2013, Jim Mueller wrote:

On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:00:49 -0800, Frank wrote:

Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. Magnetic
shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

Magnetic fields are hard to shield. In a power transformer, it would be
more effective to use more iron in the core and more turns in the
windings to reduce the flux density. While a steel shell probably
provides a limited amount of shielding, it's more likely there to provide
mechanical protection. At the same time, it gives a better appearance.

Maybe protect the windings, too.

Definitely, nobody specifies between just a frame transformer and a metal
cased one. I'd honestly never given it any thought. Bigger transformers
often seem to be more likely to be cased in metal, so structural support
may apply. I don'thave it handy, but that one Hammond catalog I got
decades ago I think offered the same voltage/amps in open frame and metal
enclosed versions, which would add more to "looks" than anything else.

I have heard of the leads breaking off open frame transofrmers, right
where they come off the winding, which isn't a good thing. Any metal
cased transformer, I don't recall that happening, which may mean there is
some sort of terminal block inside, rather than just bringing out the
wire. Certainly I've seen open frame transformers where the wire from the
windings are brought to terminal points, which helps protect the winding
wire. it also exposes the line voltage going into that transformer, which
in some cases can't be a good thing.

Michael

On Mar 3, 7:39*pm, Jim Mueller wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:00:49 -0800, Frank wrote:
Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. *Magnetic
shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

Magnetic fields are hard to shield. *In a power transformer, it would be
more effective to use more iron in the core and more turns in the
windings to reduce the flux density. *While a steel shell probably
provides a limited amount of shielding, it's more likely there to provide
mechanical protection. *At the same time, it gives a better appearance.

Surprised no one's made them gold plated.

On Mar 3, 9:49*pm, Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 4 Mar 2013, Jim Mueller wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:00:49 -0800, Frank wrote:

Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. *Magnetic
shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

Magnetic fields are hard to shield. *In a power transformer, it would be
more effective to use more iron in the core and more turns in the
windings to reduce the flux density. *While a steel shell probably
provides a limited amount of shielding, it's more likely there to provide
mechanical protection. *At the same time, it gives a better appearance.

Maybe protect the windings, too.

Definitely, nobody specifies between just a frame transformer and a metal
cased one. *I'd honestly never given it any thought. *Bigger transformers
often seem to be more likely to be cased in metal, so structural support
may apply. *I don'thave it handy, but that one Hammond catalog I got
decades ago I think offered the same voltage/amps in open frame and metal
enclosed versions, which would add more to "looks" than anything else.

I have heard of the leads breaking off open frame transofrmers, right
where they come off the winding, which isn't a good thing. *Any metal
cased transformer, I don't recall that happening, which may mean there is
some sort of terminal block inside, rather than just bringing out the
wire. *Certainly I've seen open frame transformers where the wire from the
windings are brought to terminal points, which helps protect the winding
wire. *it also exposes the line voltage going into that transformer, which
in some cases can't be a good thing.

* *Michael

Or if it's installed in a perforated enclosure. Paper and wire
varnish
don't protect as well against sharp objects.

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:13:17 -0800, Frank wrote:

On Mar 3, 7:39Â*pm, Jim Mueller wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:00:49 -0800, Frank wrote:
Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. Â*Magnetic
shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

Magnetic fields are hard to shield. Â*In a power transformer, it would
be more effective to use more iron in the core and more turns in the
windings to reduce the flux density. Â*While a steel shell probably
provides a limited amount of shielding, it's more likely there to
provide mechanical protection. Â*At the same time, it gives a better
appearance.

Surprised no one's made them gold plated.

I have seen chrome in imported equipment where everything is chrome
plated. I've also seen some with a finish that looks sort of gold
colored. Perhaps it is some kind of zinc chromate coating.

--
Jim Mueller

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with dadoheadman.
Then replace nospam with fastmail. Lastly, replace com with us.

On Saturday, March 2, 2013 11:00:49 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. Magnetic

shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

IMO it's an electrical code requirement or navy military designation every military grade transformer I've see is hermetically sealed

73 de n8zu

On Mar 17, 10:56*am, raypsi wrote:
On Saturday, March 2, 2013 11:00:49 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. *Magnetic

shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

IMO it's an electrical code requirement or navy military designation every military grade transformer I've see is hermetically sealed

True of the several WWII / Korea vintage transformers in my junk
box.

On 18/03/13 04:58, Frank wrote:
On Mar 17, 10:56 am, raypsi wrote:
On Saturday, March 2, 2013 11:00:49 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Clamshell-looking enclosure on small AC power transformers. Magnetic

shielding to prevent interference with nearby wires?

IMO it's an electrical code requirement or navy military designation every military grade transformer I've see is hermetically sealed

True of the several WWII / Korea vintage transformers in my junk
box.

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A metal enclosure (apart for mechanical protection) can be avoided by
using toroid transformers ,similar to RF toroids ,not requiring a
shielding can like cylinder shape inductors with or without a ferrous
core ,which need a screening can.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH