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Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] July 24th 14 09:06 AM

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Morning folks. I've been observing with sadness the infiltration by Gareth
Alun Evans to rec.radio.* recently and the disruption and rudeness that has
followed. Big G is well-known throughout many newsgroups as a troublemaker
and pernicious troll. Above all others, he considers uk.radio.amateur as
his "home" and his near two-decade history of abuse there is available for
all to review in Google Groups.

We've had enough of him and his idiocy. So, Project Shun was born. Broadly
speaking, Project Shun involves ignoring him en-masse, refusing to be drawn
into his trolling, refusing to lower ourselves to his level. In doing so,
the master attention-seeker is starved of the attention that he craves. And
it's working. Since Project Shun began, ukra has become a significantly
more useable group. Not perfect by any means, but for the first time in
months there are multiple on-topic and (comparatively) civil discussions
taking place and not descending into a morass of bile and hatred.

However, there are unintended (but not unforeseen, as Big G is a
predictable beast) consequences. The abuse and attention-seeking has
shifted from ukra to rrah (and other newsgroups). It would be my humble
suggestion that participants here also apply Project Shun to drive this
malicious and unpleasant troll away. And not only to restore order to your
group, but as a defence against the far more unsavoury side of his
"personality". As many of you will be aware, Big G was prosecuted and
convicted in court after contacting another user's employer with vile
insinuations that he was a danger to children (as he worked at a school, I
think you can understand the gravity of such an accusation). This was not
the first instance of such appalling behaviour, Big G had done exactly the
same to several other individuals he had fallen out with on Usenet, making
the same vile slur. Separated from many of you by an ocean and a legal
jurisdiction, I fear that he may be emboldened to try the same sick stunt
with you. Avoid that risk by blanking him completely.

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

Spike[_3_] July 24th 14 09:19 AM

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On 24/07/14 09:06, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

However, there are unintended (but not unforeseen, as Big G is a
predictable beast) consequences. The abuse and attention-seeking has
shifted from ukra to rrah (and other newsgroups).


One of the unintended consequences is that I have now had to start
adding Americans to the KF, Stuckle being the first. This is the first
addition for quite some time. Let's hope it's the last.

--
Spike

Bernie July 24th 14 09:51 AM

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"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Morning folks. I've been observing with sadness the infiltration by Gareth
Alun Evans to rec.radio.* recently and the disruption and rudeness that
has
followed. Big G is well-known throughout many newsgroups as a troublemaker
and pernicious troll. Above all others, he considers uk.radio.amateur as
his "home" and his near two-decade history of abuse there is available for
all to review in Google Groups.

We've had enough of him and his idiocy. So, Project Shun was born. Broadly
speaking, Project Shun involves ignoring him en-masse, refusing to be
drawn
into his trolling, refusing to lower ourselves to his level. In doing so,
the master attention-seeker is starved of the attention that he craves.
And
it's working. Since Project Shun began, ukra has become a significantly
more useable group. Not perfect by any means, but for the first time in
months there are multiple on-topic and (comparatively) civil discussions
taking place and not descending into a morass of bile and hatred.

However, there are unintended (but not unforeseen, as Big G is a
predictable beast) consequences. The abuse and attention-seeking has
shifted from ukra to rrah (and other newsgroups). It would be my humble
suggestion that participants here also apply Project Shun to drive this
malicious and unpleasant troll away. And not only to restore order to your
group, but as a defence against the far more unsavoury side of his
"personality". As many of you will be aware, Big G was prosecuted and
convicted in court after contacting another user's employer with vile
insinuations that he was a danger to children (as he worked at a school, I
think you can understand the gravity of such an accusation). This was not
the first instance of such appalling behaviour, Big G had done exactly the
same to several other individuals he had fallen out with on Usenet, making
the same vile slur. Separated from many of you by an ocean and a legal
jurisdiction, I fear that he may be emboldened to try the same sick stunt
with you. Avoid that risk by blanking him completely.

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone


he has some weird ideas it is true and is unduly sensitive to criticism,
sure, but he looks to
be a pukka amateur of the old school. what have you got against him looking
at your posts
over a few days especially your scurrilous remarks about his sex life are
you sure the problem
is'nt at your end somewhere?



Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] July 24th 14 09:59 AM

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Spike wrote:
On 24/07/14 09:06, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

However, there are unintended (but not unforeseen, as Big G is a
predictable beast) consequences. The abuse and attention-seeking has
shifted from ukra to rrah (and other newsgroups).


One of the unintended consequences is that I have now had to start adding
Americans to the KF, Stuckle being the first. This is the first addition
for quite some time. Let's hope it's the last.


Sadly, Jerry played straight into Big G's hands and gave him the attention
he lusts after. Hopefully, my posting might help Jerry to see that there
are much more effective ways to get at Big G.

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

Clod's Conscience July 24th 14 10:29 AM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:51:11 +0100, Bernie wrote:


he has some weird ideas it is true and is unduly sensitive to criticism,
sure, but he looks to be a pukka amateur of the old school. what have
you got against him looking at your posts over a few days especially
your scurrilous remarks about his sex life are you sure the problem
is'nt at your end somewhere?


Ha! Nice one, Gruff!

AndyW July 24th 14 10:41 AM

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On 24/07/2014 09:51, Bernie wrote:

he has some weird ideas it is true and is unduly sensitive to criticism,
sure, but he looks to
be a pukka amateur of the old school. what have you got against him looking
at your posts
over a few days especially your scurrilous remarks about his sex life are
you sure the problem
is'nt at your end somewhere?


He does appear to be an old-school amateur and I have had some good chat
with him however he also seems to enjoy the position of being the lone
defender

He does not like me because he randomly decided that I was in the army
and has labelled me a baby-killer. I have never been in the army but it
did not seem to stop him. until that point we seemed to have a fairly
cordial relationship on here.

That said, there are still a significant number of people who poke the
bear and stir him up, if they stopped goading him then a significant
percentage of the noise would die away.
Ignoring the noise only works if you ignore it.

However, after 30+ years online I have seen all the loons, stirrers,
trolls and keyboard warriors come and go - sadly often taking a NG or
channel with them.

Andy


Jerry Stuckle July 24th 14 02:23 PM

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On 7/24/2014 4:59 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 24/07/14 09:06, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

However, there are unintended (but not unforeseen, as Big G is a
predictable beast) consequences. The abuse and attention-seeking has
shifted from ukra to rrah (and other newsgroups).


One of the unintended consequences is that I have now had to start adding
Americans to the KF, Stuckle being the first. This is the first addition
for quite some time. Let's hope it's the last.


Sadly, Jerry played straight into Big G's hands and gave him the attention
he lusts after. Hopefully, my posting might help Jerry to see that there
are much more effective ways to get at Big G.


You can look at it both ways. He's so predictable that he's easy to
lead on. Trolls like him can be a lot of fun.

I'd love to see him try to contact my employer with such accusations -
they would get a huge laugh on it. Also, just because there are
jurisdictional differences doesn't mean legal action can't be taken
against him.

The thing I regret is that OFCOM doesn't have a character requirement.
Here in the U.S. his license would very probably not be renewed due to
his court case.

--
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Jerry, AI0K

==================

Rambo July 24th 14 03:31 PM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:51:11 +0100, "Bernie" wrote:


Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone


he has some weird ideas it is true and is unduly sensitive to criticism,
sure, but he looks to
be a pukka amateur of the old school. what have you got against him looking
at your posts
over a few days especially your scurrilous remarks about his sex life are
you sure the problem
is'nt at your end somewhere?


Quite true, Gareth has every right to express his views and have them
debated. If you disagree then debate it. It's quite possible to hold a
gentlemanly disagreement and this has happened on many occasions, with
no harm done.

The ones trying to "shun" are indeed his chief abusers, and
responsible for much trouble in the NG's whilst claiming to be holier
than thou.

What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!

Jerry Stuckle July 24th 14 03:44 PM

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On 7/24/2014 10:40 AM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:23:23 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

The thing I regret is that OFCOM doesn't have a character requirement.


I think any such requirement would be struck down under UK and/or
European law. I am surprised that it still stands in the US, perhaps it
only applies to observed character traits related to use of radio?


Nope, it can apply to non-radio related convictions, also.

A radio license is a privilege, not a right.

--
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Jerry Stuckle

==================

Rambo July 24th 14 04:40 PM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote:

Rambo wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:51:11 +0100, "Bernie" wrote:


Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

he has some weird ideas it is true and is unduly sensitive to criticism,
sure, but he looks to
be a pukka amateur of the old school. what have you got against him looking
at your posts
over a few days especially your scurrilous remarks about his sex life are
you sure the problem
is'nt at your end somewhere?


Quite true, Gareth has every right to express his views and have them
debated. If you disagree then debate it. It's quite possible to hold a
gentlemanly disagreement and this has happened on many occasions, with
no harm done.

The ones trying to "shun" are indeed his chief abusers, and
responsible for much trouble in the NG's whilst claiming to be holier
than thou.

What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!


Your problem is you have no idea how a gentleman behaves. He doesn't send
malicious emails or call people nonces, perverts, etc. Nor does he make up
a string of false accusations about peoples' families.


Neither doyou Brian. Do you deny then that you and your chum have been
goading and making false allegations against Gareth for years?


He doesn't claim to have progressed to a Full licence when he hasn't
either.


Clod's Conscience July 24th 14 04:53 PM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:33:18 +0000, Brian Reay wrote:


He doesn't claim to have progressed to a Full licence when he hasn't
either.


How about being economical with the truth in order to get an account with
a news provider who'd previously banned him?


Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] July 24th 14 05:03 PM

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 7/24/2014 4:59 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 24/07/14 09:06, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

However, there are unintended (but not unforeseen, as Big G is a
predictable beast) consequences. The abuse and attention-seeking has
shifted from ukra to rrah (and other newsgroups).

One of the unintended consequences is that I have now had to start adding
Americans to the KF, Stuckle being the first. This is the first addition
for quite some time. Let's hope it's the last.


Sadly, Jerry played straight into Big G's hands and gave him the attention
he lusts after. Hopefully, my posting might help Jerry to see that there
are much more effective ways to get at Big G.


You can look at it both ways. He's so predictable that he's easy to
lead on. Trolls like him can be a lot of fun.

I'd love to see him try to contact my employer with such accusations -
they would get a huge laugh on it. Also, just because there are
jurisdictional differences doesn't mean legal action can't be taken
against him.


If/when you need to launch a legal action, theres an awful lot of
background info in the Google archive that your legal team can call on.

The thing I regret is that OFCOM doesn't have a character requirement.
Here in the U.S. his license would very probably not be renewed due to
his court case.


A very sensible system.

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] July 24th 14 05:03 PM

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Rambo wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:51:11 +0100, "Bernie" wrote:


Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone


he has some weird ideas it is true and is unduly sensitive to criticism,
sure, but he looks to
be a pukka amateur of the old school. what have you got against him looking
at your posts
over a few days especially your scurrilous remarks about his sex life are
you sure the problem
is'nt at your end somewhere?


Quite true, Gareth has every right to express his views and have them
debated. If you disagree then debate it. It's quite possible to hold a
gentlemanly disagreement and this has happened on many occasions, with
no harm done.

The ones trying to "shun" are indeed his chief abusers, and
responsible for much trouble in the NG's whilst claiming to be holier
than thou.

What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!


I think you just got trolled, Hambo.

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] July 24th 14 05:03 PM

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Rambo wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote:

Neither doyou Brian. Do you deny then that you and your chum have been
goading and making false allegations against Gareth for years?


He doesn't claim to have progressed to a Full licence when he hasn't
either.


Hambo, do you deny that you haven't progressed to a full licence?

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

gareth July 24th 14 05:37 PM

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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:23:23 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
The thing I regret is that OFCOM doesn't have a character requirement.

I think any such requirement would be struck down under UK and/or
European Law.

All the more reason to leave the EU and review our acceptance of EU law-
which
some European countries ignore when they feel like it.


Should those who are so reckless about the effects of their behaviour on
their
fellow man to the extent that they pick up a criminal conviction for
speeding,
or those who recount their many instances of operating HF equipment without
a licence also be covered by your holier-than-thou attitude?



gareth July 24th 14 05:39 PM

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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

Your problem is you have no idea how a gentleman behaves. He doesn't send
malicious emails



I have never sent malicous emails, unlike you, who has originated malicious
posts to several people in this NG, as you do so below ...

Nor does he make up
a string of false accusations about peoples' families.


.... like saying that someone's wife is a sheep in the bed, do you mean?


He doesn't claim to have progressed to a Full licence when he hasn't
either.




Jerry Stuckle July 24th 14 07:36 PM

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On 7/24/2014 12:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:44:15 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 7/24/2014 10:40 AM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:23:23 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

The thing I regret is that OFCOM doesn't have a character
requirement.

I think any such requirement would be struck down under UK and/or
European law. I am surprised that it still stands in the US,
perhaps it only applies to observed character traits related to use
of radio?


Nope, it can apply to non-radio related convictions, also.

A radio license is a privilege, not a right.


Does the US apply that requirement to a driving licence?


Nowhere I know of. But drivers licenses are issued by the individual
states; radio licenses by the feds. So the comparison is moot.

--
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Jerry, AI0K

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Jerry Stuckle July 24th 14 07:39 PM

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On 7/24/2014 12:03 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 7/24/2014 4:59 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 24/07/14 09:06, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

However, there are unintended (but not unforeseen, as Big G is a
predictable beast) consequences. The abuse and attention-seeking has
shifted from ukra to rrah (and other newsgroups).

One of the unintended consequences is that I have now had to start adding
Americans to the KF, Stuckle being the first. This is the first addition
for quite some time. Let's hope it's the last.

Sadly, Jerry played straight into Big G's hands and gave him the attention
he lusts after. Hopefully, my posting might help Jerry to see that there
are much more effective ways to get at Big G.


You can look at it both ways. He's so predictable that he's easy to
lead on. Trolls like him can be a lot of fun.

I'd love to see him try to contact my employer with such accusations -
they would get a huge laugh on it. Also, just because there are
jurisdictional differences doesn't mean legal action can't be taken
against him.


If/when you need to launch a legal action, theres an awful lot of
background info in the Google archive that your legal team can call on.

The thing I regret is that OFCOM doesn't have a character requirement.
Here in the U.S. his license would very probably not be renewed due to
his court case.


A very sensible system.


Steve,

It was a joke. He can try to contact my employer, but it won't do any
good (I own the company). But it also doesn't matter. I've seen much
worse trolls on the internet. He doesn't even rank "wanna-be" compared
to some.

--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

Fred Roberts July 25th 14 12:04 AM

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On 24/07/2014 16:33, Brian Reay wrote:

Your problem is you have no idea how a gentleman behaves. He doesn't send
malicious emails or call people nonces, perverts, etc. Nor does he make up
a string of false accusations about peoples' families.


Don't be too hard on yourself Brian, Stephen still loves you.

He doesn't claim to have progressed to a Full licence when he hasn't
either.


Neither does he lose any vestige of self respect by taking out a childs
licence.


kraftéé July 25th 14 10:42 PM

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"Rambo" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:51:11 +0100, "Bernie" wrote:


Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone


he has some weird ideas it is true and is unduly sensitive to criticism,
sure, but he looks to
be a pukka amateur of the old school. what have you got against him
looking
at your posts
over a few days especially your scurrilous remarks about his sex life are
you sure the problem
is'nt at your end somewhere?


Quite true, Gareth has every right to express his views and have them
debated. If you disagree then debate it. It's quite possible to hold a
gentlemanly disagreement and this has happened on many occasions, with
no harm done.

The ones trying to "shun" are indeed his chief abusers, and
responsible for much trouble in the NG's whilst claiming to be holier
than thou.

What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!


But when he starts to stalk other posters within 2 or 3 posts, that is
beyond the pale....


Jerry Stuckle July 26th 14 12:52 AM

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On 7/25/2014 6:15 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
"Kraftee" wrote:


What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!


But when he starts to stalk other posters within 2 or 3 posts, that is beyond the pale....


Rambo has a peculiar idea of free speech. It seems it only applies to those
he agrees with or
to subjects he agrees with. Otherwise it is classed as goading.

A bit like his idea of being more highly qualified, which is very peculiar.


It makes me wonder if Rambo is one of Gareth's aliases. After all, it's
hard to believe anyone is as stoopid as Gareth.

But I guess in this world there are people that stoopid.

--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle

==================

Wymsey[_2_] July 27th 14 11:51 AM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:39:39 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

It was a joke.


The trouble is that Gareth and his camp followers are once again messing
up perfectly good groups. If only they would stay in ukra.



--
M0WYM
Sales @ radiowymsey
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sales-At-Radio-Wymsey/


Osama Bean Laden July 27th 14 12:10 PM

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On 27/07/14 11:51, Wymsey wrote:

The trouble is that Gareth and his camp followers are once again messing
up perfectly good groups. If only they would stay in ukra.


Camp followers? Ah, you mean Rambo.

Just wait until Gareth gets home this evening - he's gonna Squeem, and
squeem, and squeem, until he makes us all sick.



Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] July 27th 14 12:11 PM

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Wymsey wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:39:39 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

It was a joke.


The trouble is that Gareth and his camp followers are once again messing
up perfectly good groups. If only they would stay in ukra.



This is a new level of hypocrisy from Chaz here, not least of all due to
his pointless cross-post. Then again, hypocrisy and trolling go hand in
hand, and I think it's becoming clear that that's Chaz's game. Disgraceful
behaviour.

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

Wymsey[_2_] July 27th 14 12:14 PM

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:10:58 +0100, Osama Bean Laden wrote:

Camp followers? Ah, you mean Rambo.


No.



--
M0WYM
Sales @ radiowymsey
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sales-At-Radio-Wymsey/


Osama Bean Laden July 27th 14 12:20 PM

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On 27/07/14 12:14, Wymsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:10:58 +0100, Osama Bean Laden wrote:

Camp followers? Ah, you mean Rambo.


No.


He's the only camp follower he's got.


Wymsey[_2_] July 27th 14 04:53 PM

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:20:55 +0100, Osama Bean Laden wrote:

Camp followers? Ah, you mean Rambo.


No.


He's the only camp follower he's got.


Hardly, wherever he goes to stir the mire a whole troop of mud chuckers
is not far behind. Just sin bins the lot of 'em :-)



--
M0WYM
Sales @ radiowymsey
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sales-At-Radio-Wymsey/


Rambo July 27th 14 10:16 PM

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:10:58 +0100, Osama Bean Laden
wrote:

On 27/07/14 11:51, Wymsey wrote:

The trouble is that Gareth and his camp followers are once again messing
up perfectly good groups. If only they would stay in ukra.


Camp followers? Ah, you mean Rambo.

I don't think I can be described in any as "camp".


Rambo July 27th 14 10:20 PM

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:52:34 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:15 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
"Kraftee" wrote:


What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!

But when he starts to stalk other posters within 2 or 3 posts, that is beyond the pale....


Rambo has a peculiar idea of free speech. It seems it only applies to those
he agrees with or
to subjects he agrees with. Otherwise it is classed as goading.

A bit like his idea of being more highly qualified, which is very peculiar.


It makes me wonder if Rambo is one of Gareth's aliases. After all, it's
hard to believe anyone is as stoopid as Gareth.

But I guess in this world there are people that stoopid.


I'll choose my friends Jerry, despite what you or anyone else claim.

rickman July 27th 14 10:29 PM

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On 7/24/2014 4:06 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Morning folks. I've been observing with sadness the infiltration by Gareth
Alun Evans to rec.radio.* recently and the disruption and rudeness that has
followed.


Seems to me that there are two things these groups like to talk about.
The second one is radio.

Just say NO! and that includes talking about not talking to him.

--

Rick

Jerry Stuckle July 28th 14 01:02 AM

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On 7/27/2014 5:20 PM, Rambo wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:52:34 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:15 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
"Kraftee" wrote:


What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!

But when he starts to stalk other posters within 2 or 3 posts, that is beyond the pale....

Rambo has a peculiar idea of free speech. It seems it only applies to those
he agrees with or
to subjects he agrees with. Otherwise it is classed as goading.

A bit like his idea of being more highly qualified, which is very peculiar.


It makes me wonder if Rambo is one of Gareth's aliases. After all, it's
hard to believe anyone is as stoopid as Gareth.

But I guess in this world there are people that stoopid.


I'll choose my friends Jerry, despite what you or anyone else claim.


No problem. You can make all of the bad decisions you want. Doesn't
bother me a bit.

--
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Jerry, AI0K

==================

Rambo July 28th 14 04:38 PM

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:48:50 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote:

Rambo wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:10:58 +0100, Osama Bean Laden
wrote:

On 27/07/14 11:51, Wymsey wrote:

The trouble is that Gareth and his camp followers are once again messing
up perfectly good groups. If only they would stay in ukra.

Camp followers? Ah, you mean Rambo.

I don't think I can be described in any as "camp".


There must be some psychological reason you picked your posting name and
you keep bragging about your supposed physical achievements etc.

If the dichotomy between those and the truth is anything like it is between
your technical qualification claims and knowledge, then .........


Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. My posting name was not derived with
the film character in mind.

Rambo July 28th 14 04:40 PM

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:02:54 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 7/27/2014 5:20 PM, Rambo wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:52:34 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:15 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
"Kraftee" wrote:


What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!

But when he starts to stalk other posters within 2 or 3 posts, that is beyond the pale....

Rambo has a peculiar idea of free speech. It seems it only applies to those
he agrees with or
to subjects he agrees with. Otherwise it is classed as goading.

A bit like his idea of being more highly qualified, which is very peculiar.


It makes me wonder if Rambo is one of Gareth's aliases. After all, it's
hard to believe anyone is as stoopid as Gareth.

But I guess in this world there are people that stoopid.


I'll choose my friends Jerry, despite what you or anyone else claim.


No problem. You can make all of the bad decisions you want. Doesn't
bother me a bit.


I won't lose any sleep over your or anyone else's opinions either .

Jerry Stuckle July 28th 14 04:46 PM

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On 7/28/2014 11:40 AM, Rambo wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:02:54 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 7/27/2014 5:20 PM, Rambo wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:52:34 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:15 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
"Kraftee" wrote:


What give them the right to deny the free speech of others...

Nothing!

But when he starts to stalk other posters within 2 or 3 posts, that is beyond the pale....

Rambo has a peculiar idea of free speech. It seems it only applies to those
he agrees with or
to subjects he agrees with. Otherwise it is classed as goading.

A bit like his idea of being more highly qualified, which is very peculiar.


It makes me wonder if Rambo is one of Gareth's aliases. After all, it's
hard to believe anyone is as stoopid as Gareth.

But I guess in this world there are people that stoopid.

I'll choose my friends Jerry, despite what you or anyone else claim.


No problem. You can make all of the bad decisions you want. Doesn't
bother me a bit.


I won't lose any sleep over your or anyone else's opinions either .


Neither will anyone else.

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Osama Bean Laden July 28th 14 04:47 PM

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On 28/07/14 16:38, Rambo wrote:

Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. My posting name was not derived with
the film character in mind.

Is it because you smell like a goat i.e. RamBO?

Ian Jackson[_2_] July 28th 14 07:13 PM

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In message om, Osama
Bean Laden writes
On 28/07/14 16:38, Rambo wrote:

Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. My posting name was not derived with
the film character in mind.

Is it because you smell like a goat i.e. RamBO?


Could it be a typo for 'Rumpo' (as in Rambling Syd) which went
undetected for so long that it stuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBZGW9cguTs
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Ian

Peter Able July 30th 14 09:37 AM

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On 30/07/2014 09:24, Brian Reay wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message om, Osama
Bean Laden writes
On 28/07/14 16:38, Rambo wrote:

Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. My posting name was not derived with
the film character in mind.

Is it because you smell like a goat i.e. RamBO?


Could it be a typo for 'Rumpo' (as in Rambling Syd) which went undetected
for so long that it stuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBZGW9cguTs


Back to the camp thing.....


http://www.unionglobaltech.com/produ...dripper-rambo/

I'll leave the punch-line to others ;)

Brian Reay[_5_] July 30th 14 12:19 PM

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On 30/07/14 09:37, Peter Able wrote:
On 30/07/2014 09:24, Brian Reay wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message om, Osama
Bean Laden writes
On 28/07/14 16:38, Rambo wrote:

Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. My posting name was not derived with
the film character in mind.

Is it because you smell like a goat i.e. RamBO?

Could it be a typo for 'Rumpo' (as in Rambling Syd) which went
undetected
for so long that it stuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBZGW9cguTs


Back to the camp thing.....


http://www.unionglobaltech.com/produ...dripper-rambo/

I'll leave the punch-line to others ;)


I don't think it needs a punch-line!

;-)



Jerry Stuckle July 31st 14 01:18 PM

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On 7/31/2014 7:41 AM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:36:13 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Does the US apply that requirement to a driving licence?


Nowhere I know of. But drivers licenses are issued by the individual
states; radio licenses by the feds. So the comparison is moot.


That distinction doesn't exist in the UK, but I can see that it's a
different situation to some extent.

What would cause a driving licence to be revoked in your state, other
than the usual medical conditions/DUI type offences?


That is immaterial.

The fact is - it is the law in the United States, and the FCC enforces it.

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gareth July 31st 14 02:00 PM

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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Amateur radio is a privilege, keeping scum out of the hobby should be an
issue for
anyone who cares about the hobby.


The scum who regularly post racist pronography and gratuitously
insulting personal remarks in this NG, for example?





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