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Old July 10th 03, 04:47 AM
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Hi:
I am having a problem with a "Simple Receiver for Beginners". It is from a
design that was featured in an old (1981) ARRL handbook. It is a DC
receiver, looks like alot of fun, but it isn't fun now.
Here is the problem.

1) No oscillation! I can't find it (the VFO) on my DX-398 receiver at all,
or on my Radio Shack freq counter.
2) The power (+ side) electrolytic is supposed to be a 500uF, 16 volt. I am
using a 470uF 35 volt. It gets really hot!! Short somewhere?!?!?!

The VFO is REALLY simple, it has one transistor and about 7 other parts. I
can't seem to see what is wrong, and I have tried.

I would sure appreciate some Elmer'ing here!
ANY help would be much appreciated. I have the above mentioned tools at my
command, a multimeter, and an old Heathkit "scope. (which I really don't
know how to use.

Any chance?
Thanks in advance,
Tom
KCØGXX




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Old July 10th 03, 06:23 AM
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"TC Dufresne" wrote in
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Hi:
I am having a problem with a "Simple Receiver for Beginners". It is
from a design that was featured in an old (1981) ARRL handbook. It is
a DC receiver, looks like alot of fun, but it isn't fun now.
Here is the problem.

1) No oscillation! I can't find it (the VFO) on my DX-398 receiver at
all, or on my Radio Shack freq counter.
2) The power (+ side) electrolytic is supposed to be a 500uF, 16 volt.
I am using a 470uF 35 volt. It gets really hot!! Short somewhere?!?!?!

The VFO is REALLY simple, it has one transistor and about 7 other
parts. I can't seem to see what is wrong, and I have tried.

I would sure appreciate some Elmer'ing here!
ANY help would be much appreciated. I have the above mentioned tools
at my command, a multimeter, and an old Heathkit "scope. (which I
really don't know how to use.

Any chance?
Thanks in advance,
Tom
KCØGXX






Gotta be a short somewhere. Filter caps ain't supposed to get hot, and
yours is over rated to begin with.
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Old July 10th 03, 06:23 AM
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"TC Dufresne" wrote in
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Hi:
I am having a problem with a "Simple Receiver for Beginners". It is
from a design that was featured in an old (1981) ARRL handbook. It is
a DC receiver, looks like alot of fun, but it isn't fun now.
Here is the problem.

1) No oscillation! I can't find it (the VFO) on my DX-398 receiver at
all, or on my Radio Shack freq counter.
2) The power (+ side) electrolytic is supposed to be a 500uF, 16 volt.
I am using a 470uF 35 volt. It gets really hot!! Short somewhere?!?!?!

The VFO is REALLY simple, it has one transistor and about 7 other
parts. I can't seem to see what is wrong, and I have tried.

I would sure appreciate some Elmer'ing here!
ANY help would be much appreciated. I have the above mentioned tools
at my command, a multimeter, and an old Heathkit "scope. (which I
really don't know how to use.

Any chance?
Thanks in advance,
Tom
KCØGXX






Gotta be a short somewhere. Filter caps ain't supposed to get hot, and
yours is over rated to begin with.
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Old July 10th 03, 07:39 AM
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Tom:

The hot cap has two likely possibilities: either the cap is shorted
internally (an ohmeter check will show leakage) or you have bad diode(s) so
AC is being applied to the cap. An ohmeter will show the diodes as bad.

Of course a wiring error could also be involved, but I am assuming you have
double checked that.

If the cap is running hot you probably don't have the correct voltage for
the VFO, and correcting it may solve the other VFO problem.

Roger K6XQ


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Old July 10th 03, 07:39 AM
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Tom:

The hot cap has two likely possibilities: either the cap is shorted
internally (an ohmeter check will show leakage) or you have bad diode(s) so
AC is being applied to the cap. An ohmeter will show the diodes as bad.

Of course a wiring error could also be involved, but I am assuming you have
double checked that.

If the cap is running hot you probably don't have the correct voltage for
the VFO, and correcting it may solve the other VFO problem.

Roger K6XQ




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Old July 10th 03, 01:30 PM
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"TC Dufresne" wrote in message
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Hi:
I am having a problem with a "Simple Receiver for Beginners". It is from a
design that was featured in an old (1981) ARRL handbook. It is a DC
receiver, looks like alot of fun, but it isn't fun now.
Here is the problem.

1) No oscillation! I can't find it (the VFO) on my DX-398 receiver at

all,
or on my Radio Shack freq counter.
2) The power (+ side) electrolytic is supposed to be a 500uF, 16 volt. I

am
using a 470uF 35 volt. It gets really hot!! Short somewhere?!?!?!

The VFO is REALLY simple, it has one transistor and about 7 other parts. I
can't seem to see what is wrong, and I have tried.

I would sure appreciate some Elmer'ing here!
ANY help would be much appreciated. I have the above mentioned tools at my
command, a multimeter, and an old Heathkit "scope. (which I really don't
know how to use.


It's a good idea to build things in stages, testing each stage as you go.

Try disconnecting everything from the power supply and sort that out first.
The capacitor shouldn't get hot.

73, Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM

http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller


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Old July 10th 03, 01:30 PM
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"TC Dufresne" wrote in message
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Hi:
I am having a problem with a "Simple Receiver for Beginners". It is from a
design that was featured in an old (1981) ARRL handbook. It is a DC
receiver, looks like alot of fun, but it isn't fun now.
Here is the problem.

1) No oscillation! I can't find it (the VFO) on my DX-398 receiver at

all,
or on my Radio Shack freq counter.
2) The power (+ side) electrolytic is supposed to be a 500uF, 16 volt. I

am
using a 470uF 35 volt. It gets really hot!! Short somewhere?!?!?!

The VFO is REALLY simple, it has one transistor and about 7 other parts. I
can't seem to see what is wrong, and I have tried.

I would sure appreciate some Elmer'ing here!
ANY help would be much appreciated. I have the above mentioned tools at my
command, a multimeter, and an old Heathkit "scope. (which I really don't
know how to use.


It's a good idea to build things in stages, testing each stage as you go.

Try disconnecting everything from the power supply and sort that out first.
The capacitor shouldn't get hot.

73, Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM

http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller


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Old July 10th 03, 03:29 PM
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Try contacting ARRL for corrections to the article. I built a DC rcvr from
about that time frame and it did not work. The ARRL sent corrections to the
schematic and there were a lot!!


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Try contacting ARRL for corrections to the article. I built a DC rcvr from
about that time frame and it did not work. The ARRL sent corrections to the
schematic and there were a lot!!


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Old July 10th 03, 05:23 PM
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"TC Dufresne" wrote in message
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Hi:
I am having a problem with a "Simple Receiver for Beginners". It is from a
design that was featured in an old (1981) ARRL handbook. It is a DC
receiver, looks like alot of fun, but it isn't fun now.
Here is the problem.

1) No oscillation! I can't find it (the VFO) on my DX-398 receiver at

all,
or on my Radio Shack freq counter.
2) The power (+ side) electrolytic is supposed to be a 500uF, 16 volt. I

am
using a 470uF 35 volt. It gets really hot!! Short somewhere?!?!?!


Electrolytic capacitors are polarized. Probably you reversed the cap and
smoked it.

The VFO is REALLY simple, it has one transistor and about 7 other parts. I
can't seem to see what is wrong, and I have tried.

I would sure appreciate some Elmer'ing here!
ANY help would be much appreciated. I have the above mentioned tools at my
command, a multimeter, and an old Heathkit "scope. (which I really don't
know how to use.


Start by looking at the voltage at the electrolytic cap, and see if you in
fact have voltage or not.

Any chance?
Thanks in advance,
Tom
KCØGXX






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