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Old August 19th 03, 03:07 AM
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Joe McElvenney wrote:

Hi,

You are correct Bob, according to the SCR-221 technical manual
(TM-11-300) there should be two Bristol wrenches (#6 & #8) in the
spares kit. I have just tried the one I have on an old wreck of a
BC221-T and it fits but don't know whether it is a #6 or a #8. It
is just under a 1/10" across the flutes.

I believe that during WWII there was a specially employed
lady, complete with tattoos presumably, whose task it was to
tighten the set-screws on all military equipment. She did such a
good job that nobody except a certain candidate for the
governorship of California has since been able to move them.


Cheers - Joe


I put a drop of "Breakfree" in the hole and wait a couple days to
remove tight screws.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Old August 18th 03, 08:25 PM
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Hi,

You are correct Bob, according to the SCR-221 technical manual
(TM-11-300) there should be two Bristol wrenches (#6 & #8) in the
spares kit. I have just tried the one I have on an old wreck of a
BC221-T and it fits but don't know whether it is a #6 or a #8. It
is just under a 1/10" across the flutes.

I believe that during WWII there was a specially employed
lady, complete with tattoos presumably, whose task it was to
tighten the set-screws on all military equipment. She did such a
good job that nobody except a certain candidate for the
governorship of California has since been able to move them.


Cheers - Joe


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Old August 18th 03, 05:16 PM
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Dick wrote:
I'm trying to get a hold of a tool that will undo grub screws
securing the front panel knobs on my venerable BC221, can anyone suggest
where I can get a hold of one, a modern equivalent and/or something that
can be modified to do the job ??
Although all BC221s were provided with the tool (stored in a
clip beside the spare valves) I've never seen one and can only guess
that it must be something like a very small Phillips screwdriver head
but with a parallel rather than tapered tip. It must also be less than
3/32" dia 'cos I've just tried to make one by hand out of 3/32" dia
steel rod and that was too big, don't think my eyesight is up to hand
filing the cruciform tip in any smaller dia rod, hence a request for
help !!
My BC221 is still furkling along after 63+ years (& only c/s -
There, I've said it !!) out of calibration) but I think I should at
least try & smarten up the case with a good clean and a bit of fresh
paint. Who knows, it's probably got more chance of making the century
than I have.
Thanks


It has been many years since I had a BC-221, but I seem to think that a
Bristol wrench was needed to remove the knobs. No bets, however.

Bob, W6NBI

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Old August 18th 03, 05:22 PM
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:00:04 +0100, Dick
wrote:

I'm trying to get a hold of a tool that will undo grub screws
securing the front panel knobs on my venerable BC221, can anyone suggest
where I can get a hold of one, a modern equivalent and/or something that
can be modified to do the job ??
Although all BC221s were provided with the tool (stored in a
clip beside the spare valves) I've never seen one and can only guess
that it must be something like a very small Phillips screwdriver head
but with a parallel rather than tapered tip. It must also be less than
3/32" dia 'cos I've just tried to make one by hand out of 3/32" dia
steel rod and that was too big, don't think my eyesight is up to hand
filing the cruciform tip in any smaller dia rod, hence a request for
help !!
My BC221 is still furkling along after 63+ years (& only c/s -
There, I've said it !!) out of calibration) but I think I should at
least try & smarten up the case with a good clean and a bit of fresh
paint. Who knows, it's probably got more chance of making the century
than I have.
Thanks

Dick, I think they are "Allen Key" or "Hex Key" grub screws but I
won't bet on it though.
hth Mike W, G8NXD
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Old August 19th 03, 12:30 AM
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Mike W wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:00:04 +0100, Dick
wrote:

I'm trying to get a hold of a tool that will undo grub screws
securing the front panel knobs on my venerable BC221, can anyone suggest
where I can get a hold of one, a modern equivalent and/or something that
can be modified to do the job ??
Although all BC221s were provided with the tool (stored in a
clip beside the spare valves) I've never seen one and can only guess
that it must be something like a very small Phillips screwdriver head
but with a parallel rather than tapered tip. It must also be less than
3/32" dia 'cos I've just tried to make one by hand out of 3/32" dia
steel rod and that was too big, don't think my eyesight is up to hand
filing the cruciform tip in any smaller dia rod, hence a request for
help !!
My BC221 is still furkling along after 63+ years (& only c/s -
There, I've said it !!) out of calibration) but I think I should at
least try & smarten up the case with a good clean and a bit of fresh
paint. Who knows, it's probably got more chance of making the century
than I have.
Thanks

Dick, I think they are "Allen Key" or "Hex Key" grub screws but I
won't bet on it though.
hth Mike W, G8NXD


I vote for the Bristol answer. I think I have a couple here but it would
probably take a "crime scene" investigation to find them. I have a couple of
BC221
and the newer version with a CRT.

Bill K7NOM




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Old August 19th 03, 01:04 AM
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You might check inside the instrument. A Bristol wrench was often
included in military gear under a clip someplace.

I don't have a Bristol wrench for comparison any more, but I recall
their cross sectional shape as resembling modern Torx drivers. It would
probably take an unusually long one, and if it didn't fit well there'd
be a danger of chewing the screw so it'd never come out. Might be worth
investigating, though.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Bill Janssen wrote:

I vote for the Bristol answer. I think I have a couple here but it would
probably take a "crime scene" investigation to find them. I have a couple of
BC221
and the newer version with a CRT.

Bill K7NOM



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Old August 19th 03, 06:53 AM
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Roy Lewallen wrote in message ...
....
I don't have a Bristol wrench for comparison any more, but I recall
their cross sectional shape as resembling modern Torx drivers.

....
:-) Yep, indeed. In fact, my older daughter bought a new faceplate
for my younger daughter's cell phone as a present, only it turned out
to be a whole new case (clear plastic). Yours Truly got to replace
the case, which was held in with #6 Torx. I was happy to find that
one of the Bristol spline wrenches from an old GC set fit just fine,
as my Torx drivers go down only to #8 here at home. So you MAY find
that a #6 or #8 or #10 Torx will work in your BC221. Mebbe I'll go
try it on my LM (Navy equivalent of the BC221) and report back.

Cheers,
Tom
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Old August 19th 03, 06:53 AM
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Roy Lewallen wrote in message ...
....
I don't have a Bristol wrench for comparison any more, but I recall
their cross sectional shape as resembling modern Torx drivers.

....
:-) Yep, indeed. In fact, my older daughter bought a new faceplate
for my younger daughter's cell phone as a present, only it turned out
to be a whole new case (clear plastic). Yours Truly got to replace
the case, which was held in with #6 Torx. I was happy to find that
one of the Bristol spline wrenches from an old GC set fit just fine,
as my Torx drivers go down only to #8 here at home. So you MAY find
that a #6 or #8 or #10 Torx will work in your BC221. Mebbe I'll go
try it on my LM (Navy equivalent of the BC221) and report back.

Cheers,
Tom
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Old August 19th 03, 01:04 AM
Roy Lewallen
 
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You might check inside the instrument. A Bristol wrench was often
included in military gear under a clip someplace.

I don't have a Bristol wrench for comparison any more, but I recall
their cross sectional shape as resembling modern Torx drivers. It would
probably take an unusually long one, and if it didn't fit well there'd
be a danger of chewing the screw so it'd never come out. Might be worth
investigating, though.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Bill Janssen wrote:

I vote for the Bristol answer. I think I have a couple here but it would
probably take a "crime scene" investigation to find them. I have a couple of
BC221
and the newer version with a CRT.

Bill K7NOM



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Old August 19th 03, 04:33 PM
Bill Janssen
 
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Bill Janssen wrote: I vote for the Bristol answer. I think I have a couple here
but it would

probably take a "crime scene" investigation to find them. I have a couple of
BC221
and the newer version with a CRT.

Bill K7NOM


That CRT comment was about as wrong as can be.
The "CRT" was a magnifier glass to read the film strip dial.

Should have looked at the unit before commenting.

Bill K7NOM





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