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Scott September 6th 03 02:24 PM

And the reason "It ain't gonna happen" is that there are probably
hundreds of people doing the same thing on the same frequency so all you
end up hearing is noise. I have communicated to Great Britain using CW
and 300 milliwatts on 28 MHz, so don't tell me it ain't gonna happen.
By the same token, I can't talk to a buddy 100 miles away on 100 Watts
on 28 MHz since he is in the "skip zone" at 28 MHz.

Scott
N0EDV

donut wrote:

(Limitedselection) wrote in
:

I wouldn't be worried about thelegal issues if skywave was not an
issue. But unfortunately it looks like with skywave any signal no
matter how small can be heard world-wide.


This is ridiculous. Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.

Beside, the solar cycle is on it's downward spiral, and skip openings on 29
MHz are going to become few and far between and the cycle deepens.

If your local CBer is primarily a "skip" talker, that in itself might take
him out.


--

Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParasolAirplanes
Building RV-4
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die!

Scott September 6th 03 02:24 PM

And the reason "It ain't gonna happen" is that there are probably
hundreds of people doing the same thing on the same frequency so all you
end up hearing is noise. I have communicated to Great Britain using CW
and 300 milliwatts on 28 MHz, so don't tell me it ain't gonna happen.
By the same token, I can't talk to a buddy 100 miles away on 100 Watts
on 28 MHz since he is in the "skip zone" at 28 MHz.

Scott
N0EDV

donut wrote:

(Limitedselection) wrote in
:

I wouldn't be worried about thelegal issues if skywave was not an
issue. But unfortunately it looks like with skywave any signal no
matter how small can be heard world-wide.


This is ridiculous. Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.

Beside, the solar cycle is on it's downward spiral, and skip openings on 29
MHz are going to become few and far between and the cycle deepens.

If your local CBer is primarily a "skip" talker, that in itself might take
him out.


--

Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParasolAirplanes
Building RV-4
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die!

Paul Burridge September 6th 03 02:45 PM

On 6 Sep 2003 07:11:23 GMT, donut wrote:

This is ridiculous. Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.


Yes, but it's a fact that these signals can and do end up thousands of
miles away where they cause enough general noise to interfere with
sensitive communications equipment. Just because you can't "talk skip"
effectively on low power doesn't mean your signals aren't screwing
things up for others around the world.
--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Paul Burridge September 6th 03 02:45 PM

On 6 Sep 2003 07:11:23 GMT, donut wrote:

This is ridiculous. Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.


Yes, but it's a fact that these signals can and do end up thousands of
miles away where they cause enough general noise to interfere with
sensitive communications equipment. Just because you can't "talk skip"
effectively on low power doesn't mean your signals aren't screwing
things up for others around the world.
--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Paul Burridge September 6th 03 02:45 PM

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:34:59 -1000, Rick Frazier
wrote:

[snip]
Several days later, upon discovering a party at the house next door, the same
unnamed person invited himself in and had a conversation with the renter of the
house. It seems that for the first time in months, he had been able to actually
hear his stereo without trash talk emanating from it at odd hours, and was
celebrating, treating (most of) the block to a good size keg of beer. It seems
the CB neighbor had some sort of malfunction of a high power linear amp, and was
threatening to sue the place that sold him the amp because it had failed quite
spectacularly....


:-)
A heartwarming story. Thanks for sharing.
--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Paul Burridge September 6th 03 02:45 PM

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:34:59 -1000, Rick Frazier
wrote:

[snip]
Several days later, upon discovering a party at the house next door, the same
unnamed person invited himself in and had a conversation with the renter of the
house. It seems that for the first time in months, he had been able to actually
hear his stereo without trash talk emanating from it at odd hours, and was
celebrating, treating (most of) the block to a good size keg of beer. It seems
the CB neighbor had some sort of malfunction of a high power linear amp, and was
threatening to sue the place that sold him the amp because it had failed quite
spectacularly....


:-)
A heartwarming story. Thanks for sharing.
--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Bob Lewis \(AA4PB\) September 6th 03 03:33 PM

Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.


I'd have to totally disagree with that. It can and does happen all the
time. The low sunspot cycle means it doesn't happen as often but there
are still band openings and skip even at the bottom of the cycle.



Bob Lewis \(AA4PB\) September 6th 03 03:33 PM

Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.


I'd have to totally disagree with that. It can and does happen all the
time. The low sunspot cycle means it doesn't happen as often but there
are still band openings and skip even at the bottom of the cycle.



Bob Lewis \(AA4PB\) September 6th 03 03:44 PM

A lot of amatuer radio operators and RF engineers are telling me
that such a
device could wreak havoc world-wide


It won't "wreak havoc" world-wide, but it is very likely that it will
be heard on occasions long distances from your location - and it is
illegal. Even if your signal is only heard by your neighbor,
intestinally jamming him is not legal - even if what he is doing is
also not legal. On the technical side, it is just not possible to
generate a signal that will be strong enough to block his on your
property while ensuring that your signal will not leave your property.
It is not technically possible to control signal strengths (especially
given that your talkies will be moving around the property) to the
point that it will block the reception of his signal while letting
your signals through without interference when using the same
frequency.




Bob Lewis \(AA4PB\) September 6th 03 03:44 PM

A lot of amatuer radio operators and RF engineers are telling me
that such a
device could wreak havoc world-wide


It won't "wreak havoc" world-wide, but it is very likely that it will
be heard on occasions long distances from your location - and it is
illegal. Even if your signal is only heard by your neighbor,
intestinally jamming him is not legal - even if what he is doing is
also not legal. On the technical side, it is just not possible to
generate a signal that will be strong enough to block his on your
property while ensuring that your signal will not leave your property.
It is not technically possible to control signal strengths (especially
given that your talkies will be moving around the property) to the
point that it will block the reception of his signal while letting
your signals through without interference when using the same
frequency.




RaOuL September 6th 03 04:25 PM


"donut" wrote in message

--SNIP--
1. Change the channel the walkie talkies operate on, or

2. Replace them with walkie talkies using another band. I believe there

are
walkies talkies that also operate around 49 MHz.


FWIW, the cost of FRS radios has come down to the level of kid's walkie
talkies. I recently bought a pair of Uniden FRS radios at WalMart for about
$17 / pair. 27 MHz walkie talkies are still around $10 a pair. I gave 'em
to my kids so they can keep in touch around the neighborhood.....

RaOuL



RaOuL September 6th 03 04:25 PM


"donut" wrote in message

--SNIP--
1. Change the channel the walkie talkies operate on, or

2. Replace them with walkie talkies using another band. I believe there

are
walkies talkies that also operate around 49 MHz.


FWIW, the cost of FRS radios has come down to the level of kid's walkie
talkies. I recently bought a pair of Uniden FRS radios at WalMart for about
$17 / pair. 27 MHz walkie talkies are still around $10 a pair. I gave 'em
to my kids so they can keep in touch around the neighborhood.....

RaOuL



Dee D. Flint September 6th 03 05:42 PM


"donut" wrote in message
...
(Limitedselection) wrote in
:

I hardly think this would be a problem. For one, you'd need an antenna
radiating a large proportion of skywave. Second, the CB bands are loaded
with all kinds of open carriers, whistlers, music players, etc. so your
tiny part in this would be unlikely to harm anyone.


You cannot control whether an antenna radiates a skywave or a groundwave.
Even with controlling the takeoff angle, you will still get some radiation
in other directions which means you will get some skywave propagation
anyway.

Due to its frequency, groundwave on CB is not a useful propagation mode.
27mhz is high enough in frequency that it does not want to follow the
curvature of the earth. It propagates mainly by "line of sight" (i.e.
straight line) and/or skywave (i.e. skip).

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Dee D. Flint September 6th 03 05:42 PM


"donut" wrote in message
...
(Limitedselection) wrote in
:

I hardly think this would be a problem. For one, you'd need an antenna
radiating a large proportion of skywave. Second, the CB bands are loaded
with all kinds of open carriers, whistlers, music players, etc. so your
tiny part in this would be unlikely to harm anyone.


You cannot control whether an antenna radiates a skywave or a groundwave.
Even with controlling the takeoff angle, you will still get some radiation
in other directions which means you will get some skywave propagation
anyway.

Due to its frequency, groundwave on CB is not a useful propagation mode.
27mhz is high enough in frequency that it does not want to follow the
curvature of the earth. It propagates mainly by "line of sight" (i.e.
straight line) and/or skywave (i.e. skip).

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Dee D. Flint September 6th 03 05:44 PM


"donut" wrote in message
...
(Limitedselection) wrote in
:

I wouldn't be worried about thelegal issues if skywave was not an
issue. But unfortunately it looks like with skywave any signal no
matter how small can be heard world-wide.


This is ridiculous. Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.


Happens all the time when the sunspot cycle is favorable.

Beside, the solar cycle is on it's downward spiral, and skip openings on

29
MHz are going to become few and far between and the cycle deepens.

If your local CBer is primarily a "skip" talker, that in itself might take
him out.


Unfortunately the CB operator will probably think the solution is more
power. When he gets an occasional E skip propagation, he'll think he was
correct. His use of excessive power will then aggravate the situation.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Dee D. Flint September 6th 03 05:44 PM


"donut" wrote in message
...
(Limitedselection) wrote in
:

I wouldn't be worried about thelegal issues if skywave was not an
issue. But unfortunately it looks like with skywave any signal no
matter how small can be heard world-wide.


This is ridiculous. Try talking skip even on a car CB putting out legal
power. It ain't gonna happen.


Happens all the time when the sunspot cycle is favorable.

Beside, the solar cycle is on it's downward spiral, and skip openings on

29
MHz are going to become few and far between and the cycle deepens.

If your local CBer is primarily a "skip" talker, that in itself might take
him out.


Unfortunately the CB operator will probably think the solution is more
power. When he gets an occasional E skip propagation, he'll think he was
correct. His use of excessive power will then aggravate the situation.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Bob Lewis \(AA4PB\) September 6th 03 07:55 PM

Now, he actually has fun frustrating the offending CB'er.

That's great. So now your friend has become a part of the problem
instead of part of the solution. That makes him no better than the guy
he's compaining about.



Bob Lewis \(AA4PB\) September 6th 03 07:55 PM

Now, he actually has fun frustrating the offending CB'er.

That's great. So now your friend has become a part of the problem
instead of part of the solution. That makes him no better than the guy
he's compaining about.



James September 7th 03 01:36 AM

Why not get a pair of Motorola frs radio set (pair) at local store,
I just picked up a pair for $ 25 and a mail in rebate for $ 15 so low cost,
plus these are on uhf frequencies, no cb frequencies and low power.

Less expensive then trying to block the nasty guy on the cb.

jimboz

Limitedselection wrote:

Roy,
Thanks - Mike posted about sky waves (I was unaware of), so even a very low
power device centrally located in my property would apparently be heard
world-wide - which is NOT what I want.

Actually, I did want to jam the reception of the existing CB signals on my
property (at least in and around the house).

One of my neighbors uses rather 'salty' language and the local kids use some
walkie talkies around the house - I fugured that jamming the outside signals
would still allow the kids to talk due to their close proximity.

Thanks again.

From: Roy Lewallen


There's no way to make a signal stop at your property line, short of
putting a perfect shield around your property. And if you did that, you
wouldn't be bothered by your neighbor's CB anyway.



James September 7th 03 01:36 AM

Why not get a pair of Motorola frs radio set (pair) at local store,
I just picked up a pair for $ 25 and a mail in rebate for $ 15 so low cost,
plus these are on uhf frequencies, no cb frequencies and low power.

Less expensive then trying to block the nasty guy on the cb.

jimboz

Limitedselection wrote:

Roy,
Thanks - Mike posted about sky waves (I was unaware of), so even a very low
power device centrally located in my property would apparently be heard
world-wide - which is NOT what I want.

Actually, I did want to jam the reception of the existing CB signals on my
property (at least in and around the house).

One of my neighbors uses rather 'salty' language and the local kids use some
walkie talkies around the house - I fugured that jamming the outside signals
would still allow the kids to talk due to their close proximity.

Thanks again.

From: Roy Lewallen


There's no way to make a signal stop at your property line, short of
putting a perfect shield around your property. And if you did that, you
wouldn't be bothered by your neighbor's CB anyway.



Tom Coates September 8th 03 02:22 AM

Recently the FCC has been writing to the CEOs of electric utilities about
intereference experienced by individual amateurs and I believe last week I
saw a letter to some people about a baby monitor.

The letters are at http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/

FWIW,
Tom, N3IJ

"Bob McConnell" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 03:47:34 +0000 (UTC), "-=jd=-" wrote:

Dateline "rec.radio.amateur.homebrew", Sat, 06 Sep 2003 18:55:22 GMT: As

it
appeared in message-ID# , "Bob

Lewis
\(AA4PB\)" appears to have written the following...

Now, he actually has fun frustrating the offending CB'er.

That's great. So now your friend has become a part of the problem
instead of part of the solution. That makes him no better than the guy
he's compaining about.


Actually, quite the opposite. None of the neighbors could get any

response
from the FCC. The offending CB'er was coming over the TV's and radios in
the neighborhood.


Commercial TV and radio receivers are notoriously susceptible to
strong signals well outside of their frequency range. The
manufacturers have taken too many shortcuts to provide decent
selectivity. So the FCC doesn't pay much attention to those
complaints.

But as soon as the hams in the area had a problem, they should have
been notifying the FCC. At that point, your neighbor was interfering
with a licensed service and they do pay attention to that. Admitedly,
their attention has been sporadic in the past, but in the last few
years they have gotten much more serious about tracking down operators
that are causing harmful interference, even if they are licensed. If
the event you described happened recently, there may have been a
better way. Keep that in mind if he gets back on the air.

Bob McConnell
N2SPP




Tom Coates September 8th 03 02:22 AM

Recently the FCC has been writing to the CEOs of electric utilities about
intereference experienced by individual amateurs and I believe last week I
saw a letter to some people about a baby monitor.

The letters are at http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/

FWIW,
Tom, N3IJ

"Bob McConnell" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 03:47:34 +0000 (UTC), "-=jd=-" wrote:

Dateline "rec.radio.amateur.homebrew", Sat, 06 Sep 2003 18:55:22 GMT: As

it
appeared in message-ID# , "Bob

Lewis
\(AA4PB\)" appears to have written the following...

Now, he actually has fun frustrating the offending CB'er.

That's great. So now your friend has become a part of the problem
instead of part of the solution. That makes him no better than the guy
he's compaining about.


Actually, quite the opposite. None of the neighbors could get any

response
from the FCC. The offending CB'er was coming over the TV's and radios in
the neighborhood.


Commercial TV and radio receivers are notoriously susceptible to
strong signals well outside of their frequency range. The
manufacturers have taken too many shortcuts to provide decent
selectivity. So the FCC doesn't pay much attention to those
complaints.

But as soon as the hams in the area had a problem, they should have
been notifying the FCC. At that point, your neighbor was interfering
with a licensed service and they do pay attention to that. Admitedly,
their attention has been sporadic in the past, but in the last few
years they have gotten much more serious about tracking down operators
that are causing harmful interference, even if they are licensed. If
the event you described happened recently, there may have been a
better way. Keep that in mind if he gets back on the air.

Bob McConnell
N2SPP




Robert F Wieland September 13th 03 08:57 PM

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?


You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Robert F Wieland September 13th 03 08:57 PM

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?


You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Eddie Haskel September 14th 03 03:58 AM

This one is tried and proven to be a winner. Start with some kind of mild
spark generator (large buzzer or mechanical bell). Isolate the device from
it's power source with a pair of chokes (and place in soundproof box). Feed
from the device(one lead to each side of spark gap or points) VIA 450Ohm
open ladder line to a dipole cut to the 11 Meter band and orient it in the
direction of the CB'ers antenna. This setup TRASHES AM and SSB RCVRS!!! I'ts
possible your neighbors might see some sparklies in their picture on the low
VHF channels. Want to make it REAL efficiant? take the CB radio you have and
put a COR on it's RCVR. Set it up without an antenna to his favorite
channel.When the COR closes it starts a time relay and transmits for about
10 minutes. Each time it hears the jerk it pops up and jams his RCVR.
This scheme will NOT work over 500 feet. If this guy lives next door or
behind you he IS game. He can not talk with someone ifhe can HEAR them to
begin with. Even the dumbest of animals will soon learn....Eddie

"Limitedselection" wrote in message
...
Help!

I want to effectively "jam" CB reception on my property.
The "jammer" would need to be low power and cover an area about as large

as a
'small' city block.

I have searched google, but I have only found references to schematics

that
were either posted to usenet as a picture (thus not saved in google

archives),
or located on web servers in domains that no longer exist.

Any information would be appreciated!






Eddie Haskel September 14th 03 03:58 AM

This one is tried and proven to be a winner. Start with some kind of mild
spark generator (large buzzer or mechanical bell). Isolate the device from
it's power source with a pair of chokes (and place in soundproof box). Feed
from the device(one lead to each side of spark gap or points) VIA 450Ohm
open ladder line to a dipole cut to the 11 Meter band and orient it in the
direction of the CB'ers antenna. This setup TRASHES AM and SSB RCVRS!!! I'ts
possible your neighbors might see some sparklies in their picture on the low
VHF channels. Want to make it REAL efficiant? take the CB radio you have and
put a COR on it's RCVR. Set it up without an antenna to his favorite
channel.When the COR closes it starts a time relay and transmits for about
10 minutes. Each time it hears the jerk it pops up and jams his RCVR.
This scheme will NOT work over 500 feet. If this guy lives next door or
behind you he IS game. He can not talk with someone ifhe can HEAR them to
begin with. Even the dumbest of animals will soon learn....Eddie

"Limitedselection" wrote in message
...
Help!

I want to effectively "jam" CB reception on my property.
The "jammer" would need to be low power and cover an area about as large

as a
'small' city block.

I have searched google, but I have only found references to schematics

that
were either posted to usenet as a picture (thus not saved in google

archives),
or located on web servers in domains that no longer exist.

Any information would be appreciated!






Limitedselection September 14th 03 08:39 AM

Subject: want circuit/schematic for CB "jammer"
From: (Robert F Wieland)
Date: 9/13/2003 12:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?


You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Wieland,
I am not kidding myself. I never stated, asserted, proposed or implied that
jamming was legal.

I am very sorry that you completely misinterpreted my post.

I know that it jamming is illegal, okay Wieland?

Thanks for your help!


Limitedselection September 14th 03 08:39 AM

Subject: want circuit/schematic for CB "jammer"
From: (Robert F Wieland)
Date: 9/13/2003 12:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?


You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Wieland,
I am not kidding myself. I never stated, asserted, proposed or implied that
jamming was legal.

I am very sorry that you completely misinterpreted my post.

I know that it jamming is illegal, okay Wieland?

Thanks for your help!


J M Noeding September 15th 03 12:56 AM

On 14 Sep 2003 07:39:17 GMT,
(Limitedselection) wrote:

Subject: want circuit/schematic for CB "jammer"
From:
(Robert F Wieland)
Date: 9/13/2003 12:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?


You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Wieland,
I am not kidding myself. I never stated, asserted, proposed or implied that
jamming was legal.

I am very sorry that you completely misinterpreted my post.

I know that it jamming is illegal, okay Wieland?

Thanks for your help!

a friend made a jammer for a difficult person who caused a lot of
problems for the surrounding world. The jammer had photodiode, and
would only operate when dark, it transmitted only after a CB
transmission - for the next 20 minutes causing reception impossible
for this guy, and it was hidden in a nearby trea

So this bloke couldn't make 2-way communication and after some time
resigned to find a new house somewhere far away from this place

He had caused very much problems running high power and blocking
TV-and broadcast-reception, so it was a good idea to keep him from
activitating the CB or what ever band

It happened many years ago, but still it is told to amuse the friends

-jm

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J M Noeding September 15th 03 12:56 AM

On 14 Sep 2003 07:39:17 GMT,
(Limitedselection) wrote:

Subject: want circuit/schematic for CB "jammer"
From:
(Robert F Wieland)
Date: 9/13/2003 12:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?


You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Wieland,
I am not kidding myself. I never stated, asserted, proposed or implied that
jamming was legal.

I am very sorry that you completely misinterpreted my post.

I know that it jamming is illegal, okay Wieland?

Thanks for your help!

a friend made a jammer for a difficult person who caused a lot of
problems for the surrounding world. The jammer had photodiode, and
would only operate when dark, it transmitted only after a CB
transmission - for the next 20 minutes causing reception impossible
for this guy, and it was hidden in a nearby trea

So this bloke couldn't make 2-way communication and after some time
resigned to find a new house somewhere far away from this place

He had caused very much problems running high power and blocking
TV-and broadcast-reception, so it was a good idea to keep him from
activitating the CB or what ever band

It happened many years ago, but still it is told to amuse the friends

-jm

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Zombie Wolf September 16th 03 03:03 AM

Here is an interesting idea. A guy could use a 555 timer chip to make a
circuit that would literally key up in the guys face every time he keyed his
rig, by connecting the trigger input on the timer chip to the signal from
the s-meter , which is filtered dc. the amount of time it would key up for
could be set by the timing interval of the chip . Now, we simply turn the
sensitivity of the receiver down, and turn the power output down also on
transmit. this means a 12- volt car battery could run this setup for a
loooong time. The receive sensitivity is turned down until only strong local
signals produce enough s-meter output to trigger the chip into keying the
rig up. This ensures that it only keys on him, since you will place this
somewhere near his residence.
A friend of mine did this with great success, since he took a regular
breaker box, and mounted it on a light pole near the guy's house, along with
a bunch of other boxes that were on the pole already, and ran a 9-foot wire
up the pole. It was quite a while before the power company discovered the
'superfluous" box on the back of the light pole, long after it had served
its purpose well. the 12- volt car battery that ran it lasted over a month
with this setup............. total cost ? it might have cost two or three
dollars to make the circuit on a piece of perfboard...

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:iF36b.28605$S_.20371@fed1read01...
Golly -- FYI:
Jamming is illegal -- subject to an FCC fine

--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
"Limitedselection" wrote in message
...
Help!

I want to effectively "jam" CB reception on my property.
The "jammer" would need to be low power and cover an area about as large

as a
'small' city block.

I have searched google, but I have only found references to schematics

that
were either posted to usenet as a picture (thus not saved in google

archives),
or located on web servers in domains that no longer exist.

Any information would be appreciated!







Zombie Wolf September 16th 03 03:03 AM

Here is an interesting idea. A guy could use a 555 timer chip to make a
circuit that would literally key up in the guys face every time he keyed his
rig, by connecting the trigger input on the timer chip to the signal from
the s-meter , which is filtered dc. the amount of time it would key up for
could be set by the timing interval of the chip . Now, we simply turn the
sensitivity of the receiver down, and turn the power output down also on
transmit. this means a 12- volt car battery could run this setup for a
loooong time. The receive sensitivity is turned down until only strong local
signals produce enough s-meter output to trigger the chip into keying the
rig up. This ensures that it only keys on him, since you will place this
somewhere near his residence.
A friend of mine did this with great success, since he took a regular
breaker box, and mounted it on a light pole near the guy's house, along with
a bunch of other boxes that were on the pole already, and ran a 9-foot wire
up the pole. It was quite a while before the power company discovered the
'superfluous" box on the back of the light pole, long after it had served
its purpose well. the 12- volt car battery that ran it lasted over a month
with this setup............. total cost ? it might have cost two or three
dollars to make the circuit on a piece of perfboard...

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:iF36b.28605$S_.20371@fed1read01...
Golly -- FYI:
Jamming is illegal -- subject to an FCC fine

--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
"Limitedselection" wrote in message
...
Help!

I want to effectively "jam" CB reception on my property.
The "jammer" would need to be low power and cover an area about as large

as a
'small' city block.

I have searched google, but I have only found references to schematics

that
were either posted to usenet as a picture (thus not saved in google

archives),
or located on web servers in domains that no longer exist.

Any information would be appreciated!







Argus September 20th 03 02:21 PM

In the final analysis, they do a pretty good job of jamming each other.

"J M Noeding" wrote in message
...
On 14 Sep 2003 07:39:17 GMT,
(Limitedselection) wrote:

Subject: want circuit/schematic for CB "jammer"
From:
(Robert F Wieland)
Date: 9/13/2003 12:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?

You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's

illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try

to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property

they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Wieland,
I am not kidding myself. I never stated, asserted, proposed or implied

that
jamming was legal.

I am very sorry that you completely misinterpreted my post.

I know that it jamming is illegal, okay Wieland?

Thanks for your help!

a friend made a jammer for a difficult person who caused a lot of
problems for the surrounding world. The jammer had photodiode, and
would only operate when dark, it transmitted only after a CB
transmission - for the next 20 minutes causing reception impossible
for this guy, and it was hidden in a nearby trea

So this bloke couldn't make 2-way communication and after some time
resigned to find a new house somewhere far away from this place

He had caused very much problems running high power and blocking
TV-and broadcast-reception, so it was a good idea to keep him from
activitating the CB or what ever band

It happened many years ago, but still it is told to amuse the friends

-jm

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Argus September 20th 03 02:21 PM

In the final analysis, they do a pretty good job of jamming each other.

"J M Noeding" wrote in message
...
On 14 Sep 2003 07:39:17 GMT,
(Limitedselection) wrote:

Subject: want circuit/schematic for CB "jammer"
From:
(Robert F Wieland)
Date: 9/13/2003 12:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article ,
Limitedselection wrote:
To "Caveat Lector":

Thanks for your 'help'!

Apparently you are a lawyer (or play one on usenet)?

You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law, nor a weatherman to know
which way the wind blows.

You will be interfering with an authorized radio service. That's

illegal.

You will be transmitting (outside Part 15 limits) without a license.
That's illegal.

You will be putting on the air transmitting equipment that is neither
inspected-and-accepted nor type-accepted. That's illegal.

You do not own nor control the airwaves on your property. I could try

to
list the things that are illegal even though you own the property

they're
done on, except that I have a 10-Meg limit on my temporary file size.

I agree you probably won't get caught, but don't kid yourself about what
you're doing...
--

R F Wieland Newark, DE 19711-5323 USA 39.68N 75.74W
Icom R75 Heathkit GR-81 Inverted-L in the attic
Reply to wieland at me dot udel dot edu

Wieland,
I am not kidding myself. I never stated, asserted, proposed or implied

that
jamming was legal.

I am very sorry that you completely misinterpreted my post.

I know that it jamming is illegal, okay Wieland?

Thanks for your help!

a friend made a jammer for a difficult person who caused a lot of
problems for the surrounding world. The jammer had photodiode, and
would only operate when dark, it transmitted only after a CB
transmission - for the next 20 minutes causing reception impossible
for this guy, and it was hidden in a nearby trea

So this bloke couldn't make 2-way communication and after some time
resigned to find a new house somewhere far away from this place

He had caused very much problems running high power and blocking
TV-and broadcast-reception, so it was a good idea to keep him from
activitating the CB or what ever band

It happened many years ago, but still it is told to amuse the friends

-jm

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