In message , Brian Reay writes
On 06/03/2015 13:32, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Charlie
writes
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 22:01:39 +0000, Iain Young, G7III wrote:

A HF upverter added to the front end, and you are all set.

Very simple project, a cheap DIL crystal oscillator around 50MHz,
passive mixer with the ports switched around and you have a LF/MF/HF RX
from DC. Some front end filtering and Bob's your unc.

My first 2m QSO was made with a CB set feeding into a home-made
double-balanced diode mixer, and an ancient sig gen as the LO on 118 (or
maybe 177) MHz.

An interesting variation on the typical 28MHz 2m transverter. I'm a
bit surprised there were suitable CB sets around at the time I would
expect you to be starting our on 2m.

I'd always been an HF and (some 4m person), and I never had any 2m gear
until, by chance, I bought a Trio 2200 for £3 at a village car boot sale
(plus an Amstrad 901 CB that I also bought cost £5!). For my CB-to-2m
transversion, I was using my Fidelity 2000 (bought for £15 at another
village sale, for conversion to 10m).

I've never been keen on transverters myself. I still have a Microwave
Modules 2m 70 cm transverter somewhere, they were very popular in the
early 1980s or so. It worked well enough it was the need to keep
swapping things around I didn't like. Fine if you dedicate a radio for
use with the transverter but, in those days, I didn't have the luxury
of suitable radios to do that.

Yes, transverters can be a bit of fiddle. In the 70s, I made one to go
with my 80 to 10m gear (on 14MHz), to get on 160m. It worked OK, but it
was all a bit of a fiddle if I wanted to swap back and forth.




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Ian

Yes, transverters can be a bit of fiddle. In the 70s, I made one to go
with my 80 to 10m gear (on 14MHz), to get on 160m. It worked OK, but it
was all a bit of a fiddle if I wanted to swap back and forth.


I built a europa into an FT101 speaker cabinet ....I had to cut a bit off
each end of the circuit board.... build a chassis..... cut a front panel for
the europa meter.....stuck in a coax relay instead of the crappy bog
standard one...... painted the front panel morris oxford green.....stuck an
ft101 fan on the back..........oh yes and white leteraset .....and laquared
the front panel...I surprised myself with the result

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Yes, transverters can be a bit of fiddle. In the 70s, I made one to go
with my 80 to 10m gear (on 14MHz), to get on 160m. It worked OK, but it
was all a bit of a fiddle if I wanted to swap back and forth.


I built a europa into an FT101 speaker cabinet ....I had to cut a bit off
each end of the circuit board.... build a chassis..... cut a front panel
for the europa meter.....stuck in a coax relay instead of the crappy bog
standard one...... painted the front panel morris oxford green.....stuck
an ft101 fan on the back..........oh yes and white leteraset .....and
laquared the front panel...I surprised myself with the result


sorry for the smelling in the above......So the Glasgow club asked me to do
a talk at their friday night meeting in the late 70's about it.......I
started : 'as I only want matching commercial equipment in my station
....ft101... fv101... sp101....I had to resort to building this to get a
matching 100w 2m transverter'.....that went down well....not...........still
got that chassis punch I used for the meter...never used it again...tee hee

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Yes, transverters can be a bit of fiddle. In the 70s, I made one to go
with my 80 to 10m gear (on 14MHz), to get on 160m. It worked OK, but it
was all a bit of a fiddle if I wanted to swap back and forth.


I built a europa into an FT101 speaker cabinet ....I had to cut a bit off
each end of the circuit board.... build a chassis..... cut a front panel
for the europa meter.....stuck in a coax relay instead of the crappy bog
standard one...... painted the front panel morris oxford green.....stuck
an ft101 fan on the back..........oh yes and white leteraset .....and
laquared the front panel...I surprised myself with the result


sorry for the smelling in the above......So the Glasgow club asked me to do
a talk at their friday night meeting in the late 70's about it.......I
started : 'as I only want matching commercial equipment in my station
...ft101... fv101... sp101....I had to resort to building this to get a
matching 100w 2m transverter'.....that went down well....not...........still
got that chassis punch I used for the meter...never used it again...tee hee

Don't sell the punch, unless you can be certain you'll never need it
again.

I saw talk somwhere about the price of punches. I remember them being as
"expensive" forty years ago, but still within range. But apparently now
they have gotten really expensive. The best thing was to know someone who
had a set.

It wasn't uncommon back then to build accessories to match commercial
equipment. People would build things to match Heathkit, either buying a
third party cabinet (there were some that looked alike) and painting it
the right color, or buying a speaker that matched the rig, and using that.
Indeed, I remember various projects where people would stuff things into
the speaker cabinet, lots of room so long as you didnt' need many
controls.

Michael

"Michael Black" wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Mar 2015, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Yes, transverters can be a bit of fiddle. In the 70s, I made one to go
with my 80 to 10m gear (on 14MHz), to get on 160m. It worked OK, but it
was all a bit of a fiddle if I wanted to swap back and forth.


I built a europa into an FT101 speaker cabinet ....I had to cut a bit
off
each end of the circuit board.... build a chassis..... cut a front panel
for the europa meter.....stuck in a coax relay instead of the crappy bog
standard one...... painted the front panel morris oxford
green.....stuck
an ft101 fan on the back..........oh yes and white leteraset .....and
laquared the front panel...I surprised myself with the result


sorry for the smelling in the above......So the Glasgow club asked me to
do
a talk at their friday night meeting in the late 70's about it.......I
started : 'as I only want matching commercial equipment in my station
...ft101... fv101... sp101....I had to resort to building this to get a
matching 100w 2m transverter'.....that went down
well....not...........still
got that chassis punch I used for the meter...never used it again...tee
hee

Don't sell the punch, unless you can be certain you'll never need it
again.

I saw talk somwhere about the price of punches. I remember them being as
"expensive" forty years ago, but still within range. But apparently now
they have gotten really expensive. The best thing was to know someone who
had a set.

It wasn't uncommon back then to build accessories to match commercial
equipment. People would build things to match Heathkit, either buying a
third party cabinet (there were some that looked alike) and painting it
the right color, or buying a speaker that matched the rig, and using that.
Indeed, I remember various projects where people would stuff things into
the speaker cabinet, lots of room so long as you didnt' need many
controls.

Michael

yes I was deluded about matching equipment in the 70's ...now I hate
matching equipment and frown upon hammy mens that must have it all sitting
lined up just like the sales brochure.....and I just knew I would never use
that punch again......at least with cars you know you will use your torque
wrench....torq sockets......impact screwdriver.....spring clamps.....hub
remover.... and oil filter removal cup wrench...etc

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 15:22:46 -0500, Michael Black wrote:

I saw talk somwhere about the price of punches. I remember them being
as "expensive" forty years ago, but still within range. But apparently
now they have gotten really expensive.

I've picked up a couple in good conditions at junk sales - no more than a
£ or two.



Charlie.
M0WYM.



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Hello Wisconsin!

"Charlie" wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 15:22:46 -0500, Michael Black wrote:

I saw talk somwhere about the price of punches. I remember them being
as "expensive" forty years ago, but still within range. But apparently
now they have gotten really expensive.

I've picked up a couple in good conditions at junk sales - no more than a
£ or two.

I've one for punching holes for the D serial port connector, but
not much use for radio.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Yes, transverters can be a bit of fiddle. In the 70s, I made one to go
with my 80 to 10m gear (on 14MHz), to get on 160m. It worked OK, but it
was all a bit of a fiddle if I wanted to swap back and forth.


I built a europa into an FT101 speaker cabinet ....I had to cut a bit off
each end of the circuit board.... build a chassis..... cut a front panel
for the europa meter.....stuck in a coax relay instead of the crappy bog
standard one...... painted the front panel morris oxford green.....stuck
an ft101 fan on the back..........oh yes and white leteraset .....and
laquared the front panel...I surprised myself with the result


sorry for the smelling in the above......So the Glasgow club asked me to
do a talk at their friday night meeting in the late 70's about it.......I
started : 'as I only want matching commercial equipment in my station
...ft101... fv101... sp101....I had to resort to building this to get a
matching 100w 2m transverter'.....that went down
well....not...........still got that chassis punch I used for the
meter...never used it again...tee hee

ah yes and it had jackson bull slo mo drives as well as yaesu knobs ....

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Yes, transverters can be a bit of fiddle. In the 70s, I made one to go
with my 80 to 10m gear (on 14MHz), to get on 160m. It worked OK, but it
was all a bit of a fiddle if I wanted to swap back and forth.


I built a europa into an FT101 speaker cabinet ....I had to cut a bit
off each end of the circuit board.... build a chassis..... cut a front
panel for the europa meter.....stuck in a coax relay instead of the
crappy bog standard one...... painted the front panel morris oxford
green.....stuck an ft101 fan on the back..........oh yes and white
leteraset .....and laquared the front panel...I surprised myself with
the result


sorry for the smelling in the above......So the Glasgow club asked me to
do a talk at their friday night meeting in the late 70's about it.......I
started : 'as I only want matching commercial equipment in my station
...ft101... fv101... sp101....I had to resort to building this to get a
matching 100w 2m transverter'.....that went down
well....not...........still got that chassis punch I used for the
meter...never used it again...tee hee

ah yes and it had jackson bull slo mo drives as well as yaesu knobs ....

did you know the original ft101 ser used British Jackson drives on the
vfo?...about 17 Kc/s a turn where trio at the time went from 20 on the ts520
to 25 on the ts530 etc.....why I always slag off trio ........but all said
the 520 was the best of the hybrids