Found some notes in last Radcom (Technical topics by G3VA) about
saturable core inductors. Surprising little has been discussed about
the matter recently, but I suppose it could be a good idea to use for
LF experiments when tunable cores are a problem, he also mentions
using two MOSFETs to form a variable capacitor with maximum
capacitance of 1500pF

see http://home.online.no/~la8ak/c97.htm for some more info extracted
from Tecnical topics 11/2003

73
Jan-Martin
LA8AK
http://home.online.no/~la8ak/d.htm
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"J M Noeding" wrote in message
...
, he also mentions
using two MOSFETs to form a variable capacitor with maximum
capacitance of 1500pF

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.

Rick N6RK

"J M Noeding" wrote in message
...
, he also mentions
using two MOSFETs to form a variable capacitor with maximum
capacitance of 1500pF

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.

Rick N6RK

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:59:56 GMT, "Rick Karlquist N6RK"
wrote:


"J M Noeding" wrote in message
...
, he also mentions
using two MOSFETs to form a variable capacitor with maximum
capacitance of 1500pF

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.

What is the capacitance tolerance for such varactors and what is the
temperature coefficient ? These can be quite a problem in any
oscillator circuits.

To get such huge capacitance, the control voltage must be quite low.
In LF receiver front ends, the total RF voltage from any decent sized
antenna can be quite large, modulating the varactor voltage and hence
capacitance. This sounds like a varactor multiplier :-). Such
behaviour would not be so nice from intermodulation point of view.

In the worst case, the varactor could even be driven into conduction
due to a large applied total RF voltage, so a pair of back to back
varactors would have to be used. But with two capacitors in series in
the resonant circuit, the capacitance drops to one half of a single
varactor capacitance, thus, you would have to use two pairs of back to
back (4) varactors of 1500 pF each to get a total 1500 pF capacitance.

Even a larger number of varactors would be preferable, so a higher
minimum voltage could be used, with less risk for RF generated tuning
voltage modulation, but then the minimum capacitance would also
increase due to the limited maximum tuning voltage characteristics of
the varactor maximum available tuning voltage supply. I guess that the
larger varactors are quite expensive, so this would also limit the
number of units.

Switching in some fixed capacitors (e.g. in a binary sequence) avoids
some of these problems, but it would be quite hard to operate the
circuit with a large number of fixed capacitors.

Paul OH3LWR

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:59:56 GMT, "Rick Karlquist N6RK"
wrote:


"J M Noeding" wrote in message
...
, he also mentions
using two MOSFETs to form a variable capacitor with maximum
capacitance of 1500pF

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.

What is the capacitance tolerance for such varactors and what is the
temperature coefficient ? These can be quite a problem in any
oscillator circuits.

To get such huge capacitance, the control voltage must be quite low.
In LF receiver front ends, the total RF voltage from any decent sized
antenna can be quite large, modulating the varactor voltage and hence
capacitance. This sounds like a varactor multiplier :-). Such
behaviour would not be so nice from intermodulation point of view.

In the worst case, the varactor could even be driven into conduction
due to a large applied total RF voltage, so a pair of back to back
varactors would have to be used. But with two capacitors in series in
the resonant circuit, the capacitance drops to one half of a single
varactor capacitance, thus, you would have to use two pairs of back to
back (4) varactors of 1500 pF each to get a total 1500 pF capacitance.

Even a larger number of varactors would be preferable, so a higher
minimum voltage could be used, with less risk for RF generated tuning
voltage modulation, but then the minimum capacitance would also
increase due to the limited maximum tuning voltage characteristics of
the varactor maximum available tuning voltage supply. I guess that the
larger varactors are quite expensive, so this would also limit the
number of units.

Switching in some fixed capacitors (e.g. in a binary sequence) avoids
some of these problems, but it would be quite hard to operate the
circuit with a large number of fixed capacitors.

Paul OH3LWR

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.

What is the capacitance tolerance for such varactors and what is the
temperature coefficient ? These can be quite a problem in any
oscillator circuits.

The tolerance of AM BCB varactors is extremely tight,
since the front end has to track with the LO in the radio.
Certainly far tighter tolerance than unspecified MOSFETs.

The tempco of those varactors is very low. Probably better than
any inductor you are going to resonate it with. In the low
100's of PPM.

To get such huge capacitance, the control voltage must be quite low.

No it's not. The tuning voltage range is at least 10 volts and often
higher. At least as high as the breakdown voltage of the gate
oxide in a MOSFET.

varactor capacitance, thus, you would have to use two pairs of back to
back (4) varactors of 1500 pF each to get a total 1500 pF capacitance.

You can get several thousand pF in one diode from Toko. 1500 pF is
by no means the limit.


.. I guess that the
larger varactors are quite expensive, so this would also limit the
number of units.

No they're not expensive. Consumer electronics manufacturers
buy them by the millions at low prices.

Paul OH3LWR


Rick N6RK

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.

What is the capacitance tolerance for such varactors and what is the
temperature coefficient ? These can be quite a problem in any
oscillator circuits.

The tolerance of AM BCB varactors is extremely tight,
since the front end has to track with the LO in the radio.
Certainly far tighter tolerance than unspecified MOSFETs.

The tempco of those varactors is very low. Probably better than
any inductor you are going to resonate it with. In the low
100's of PPM.

To get such huge capacitance, the control voltage must be quite low.

No it's not. The tuning voltage range is at least 10 volts and often
higher. At least as high as the breakdown voltage of the gate
oxide in a MOSFET.

varactor capacitance, thus, you would have to use two pairs of back to
back (4) varactors of 1500 pF each to get a total 1500 pF capacitance.

You can get several thousand pF in one diode from Toko. 1500 pF is
by no means the limit.


.. I guess that the
larger varactors are quite expensive, so this would also limit the
number of units.

No they're not expensive. Consumer electronics manufacturers
buy them by the millions at low prices.

Paul OH3LWR


Rick N6RK

"Rick Karlquist N6RK" wrote:

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.


You can get several thousand pF in one diode from Toko. 1500 pF is
by no means the limit.

I really doubt these varactor diodes are much good for tuning a
transmitters PA? I don't want to go into retyping all the pages from
G3VA, but the circuits are still shown as noted in the first place at
http://home.online.no/~la8ak/c97.htm , you need some amount of mosfets
to build a 10nF variable capacitor, but it is realisable. Don't know
about other types mosfets than the mentioned ARF446/7 and APT10050, I
got some hundreds IRF630 for nothing on a Scandinavian VHF
meeting......
Technical topics, Radcom December 2003 pg 71 (G3VA): The note is based
on "Frequency-Agile Class-D Power amplifier, by Frederick H Raab and
Daniel Ruppe of Green Mountain Radio Research Company, and was
presented at recent IEE HF Conference at Bath University. It describes
(IEE Conference Publication No.493, pp81-85) an electronically-tuned
class-D power amplifier that addresses the simultaneous needs for
efficiency and frequency agility.

Since the yanks probably wouldn't accept any ideas from the ozzer
world, I can enlighten you that Dr Raab is WA1WLW

73
from LA8AK in Europe
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"Rick Karlquist N6RK" wrote:

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.


You can get several thousand pF in one diode from Toko. 1500 pF is
by no means the limit.

I really doubt these varactor diodes are much good for tuning a
transmitters PA? I don't want to go into retyping all the pages from
G3VA, but the circuits are still shown as noted in the first place at
http://home.online.no/~la8ak/c97.htm , you need some amount of mosfets
to build a 10nF variable capacitor, but it is realisable. Don't know
about other types mosfets than the mentioned ARF446/7 and APT10050, I
got some hundreds IRF630 for nothing on a Scandinavian VHF
meeting......
Technical topics, Radcom December 2003 pg 71 (G3VA): The note is based
on "Frequency-Agile Class-D Power amplifier, by Frederick H Raab and
Daniel Ruppe of Green Mountain Radio Research Company, and was
presented at recent IEE HF Conference at Bath University. It describes
(IEE Conference Publication No.493, pp81-85) an electronically-tuned
class-D power amplifier that addresses the simultaneous needs for
efficiency and frequency agility.

Since the yanks probably wouldn't accept any ideas from the ozzer
world, I can enlighten you that Dr Raab is WA1WLW

73
from LA8AK in Europe
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J M Noeding wrote:

"Rick Karlquist N6RK" wrote:

Why bother with MOSFETs? You can get varactor diodes used for tuning
AM broadcast receivers with that much capacitance.


You can get several thousand pF in one diode from Toko. 1500 pF is
by no means the limit.

I really doubt these varactor diodes are much good for tuning a
transmitters PA? I don't want to go into retyping all the pages from
G3VA, but the circuits are still shown as noted in the first place at
http://home.online.no/~la8ak/c97.htm , you need some amount of mosfets
to build a 10nF variable capacitor, but it is realisable. Don't know
about other types mosfets than the mentioned ARF446/7 and APT10050, I
got some hundreds IRF630 for nothing on a Scandinavian VHF
meeting......
Technical topics, Radcom December 2003 pg 71 (G3VA): The note is based
on "Frequency-Agile Class-D Power amplifier, by Frederick H Raab and
Daniel Ruppe of Green Mountain Radio Research Company, and was
presented at recent IEE HF Conference at Bath University. It describes
(IEE Conference Publication No.493, pp81-85) an electronically-tuned
class-D power amplifier that addresses the simultaneous needs for
efficiency and frequency agility.

Since the yanks probably wouldn't accept any ideas from the ozzer
world, I can enlighten you that Dr Raab is WA1WLW

73
from LA8AK in Europe
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I have no problems with good ideas! Its the weird political stuff I
don't want to hear.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida