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Old November 30th 03, 12:53 AM
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The stuff I use is from Lawson...its simular to CopperCoat, but its 80%
copper and works great. it takes very little...*maybe* a tablespoon full to
do a 4 element tribander, but after 4 or 5 years in a really bad salt
environment(Treasure Island in San Francisco bay), everything that had been
put together with this stuff came right apart when the screws were taken
out...anything that didn't get the antiseize was junk.
The stuff is expensive but worth every penny.

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Two electronics stores and Home Depot didn't have it.

I finally found some at my auto parts store. I was told that Ham Radio
Outlet had it for $8 but I only paid $3 for a decent sized tube of the
stuff.

Thanks for your help, guys.

73, Bob




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Old November 30th 03, 01:13 AM
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Automotive anti-seize is not the same as electrical.
Different purpose.
The automotive is to keep steel bolts from binding in aluminum, magnesium,
etc.
The electrical is to keep the coated materials from oxidizing while at the
same time ensuring good electrical contact.

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"Bob" wrote in message
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Two electronics stores and Home Depot didn't have it.

I finally found some at my auto parts store. I was told that Ham Radio
Outlet had it for $8 but I only paid $3 for a decent sized tube of the
stuff.

Thanks for your help, guys.

73, Bob




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Old November 30th 03, 12:43 AM
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Two electronics stores and Home Depot didn't have it.

I finally found some at my auto parts store. I was told that Ham Radio
Outlet had it for $8 but I only paid $3 for a decent sized tube of the
stuff.

Thanks for your help, guys.

73, Bob


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Old November 30th 03, 12:36 AM
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Any electrical parts place sells it. It is commonly known as Penetrox
or inhibitor paste. It is primarily used for aluminum wire contact with
terminal strips.

Dick K7RNZ

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"Bob" wrote in message
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I need some of this stuff for antenna assembly. Anyone know where to get
it?

For those who don't know what it is, it's a paste you get in a little can


or

tube that you smear on mating metals to avoid having them stick together
after exposure to the elements. It's also used for soldering irons to


make

replacing tips easier.

I think it's molybdenum disulfide.

73, Bob




Bob:

http://bosunsupplies.com carries it (well,a t least one version thereof).
Bosun Supply is an excellent source for all sorts of stuff useful in ham
radio. Besides, when I order from them, I can pretend I own a 40 ft sloop.
grin

73

Paul AB0SI



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Old November 30th 03, 02:38 AM
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"Bob" wrote in message
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I need some of this stuff for antenna assembly. Anyone know where to get
it?

For those who don't know what it is, it's a paste you get in a little can

or
tube that you smear on mating metals to avoid having them stick together
after exposure to the elements. It's also used for soldering irons to

make
replacing tips easier.

I think it's molybdenum disulfide.

73, Bob



Hi Bob ... I applied Permatex anti-seize to the bolts on my tower and the
boom-mast-rotor hardware. The whole works came apart smoothly after being
up for 20 plus years. The material I used between the Al junctions on the
TH-6 was supplied by Hy-Gain in a little metal pill box. Likewise the stuff
worked great. SS hardware used on the antenna.

God Bless 73 Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa




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Old November 30th 03, 02:58 PM
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Hi Bob ... I applied Permatex anti-seize to the bolts on my tower and the
boom-mast-rotor hardware. The whole works came apart smoothly after being
up for 20 plus years. The material I used between the Al junctions on the
TH-6 was supplied by Hy-Gain in a little metal pill box. Likewise the

stuff
worked great. SS hardware used on the antenna.

======================================
In the UK a very good stuff for outer metal protection is Finigan Waxoyl,
available from many autoparts - and hardware shops.
Living in a windswept area near seawater ,hence with a lot of salt spray ,I
use it on all bolts and nuts and galvanised metal clamps etc.
Of course it is NOT suitable to make galvanic contact between (dissimilar)
metal parts.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


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Old November 30th 03, 07:33 PM
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Frank Dinger wrote:
Hi Bob ... I applied Permatex anti-seize to the bolts on my tower and the
boom-mast-rotor hardware. The whole works came apart smoothly after being
up for 20 plus years. The material I used between the Al junctions on the
TH-6 was supplied by Hy-Gain in a little metal pill box. Likewise the

stuff
worked great. SS hardware used on the antenna.

======================================
In the UK a very good stuff for outer metal protection is Finigan Waxoyl,
available from many autoparts - and hardware shops.
Living in a windswept area near seawater ,hence with a lot of salt spray ,I
use it on all bolts and nuts and galvanised metal clamps etc.
Of course it is NOT suitable to make galvanic contact between (dissimilar)
metal parts.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


This is definitely a "me too."

Waxoyl is excellent stuff - a blend of wax and oil (surprise) plus
corrosion inhibitors that really work. I recently pulled out a rotating
pipe mast that had been sitting in a ground socket full of Waxoyl. 10
years of condensation had turned it into more like an oil/wax/water
emulsion, but the bare steel came out looking like new.

In more normal use on nuts and bolts, the oil dries out and the wax
coating hardens, so it also acts as a pretty good thread-lock.

Don't know if Waxoyl is available outside of Britain... but if it isn't,
it should be!


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Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book'
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Frank Dinger wrote:
Hi Bob ... I applied Permatex anti-seize to the bolts on my tower and the
boom-mast-rotor hardware. The whole works came apart smoothly after being
up for 20 plus years. The material I used between the Al junctions on the
TH-6 was supplied by Hy-Gain in a little metal pill box. Likewise the

stuff
worked great. SS hardware used on the antenna.

======================================
In the UK a very good stuff for outer metal protection is Finigan Waxoyl,
available from many autoparts - and hardware shops.
Living in a windswept area near seawater ,hence with a lot of salt spray ,I
use it on all bolts and nuts and galvanised metal clamps etc.
Of course it is NOT suitable to make galvanic contact between (dissimilar)
metal parts.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


This is definitely a "me too."

Waxoyl is excellent stuff - a blend of wax and oil (surprise) plus
corrosion inhibitors that really work. I recently pulled out a rotating
pipe mast that had been sitting in a ground socket full of Waxoyl. 10
years of condensation had turned it into more like an oil/wax/water
emulsion, but the bare steel came out looking like new.

In more normal use on nuts and bolts, the oil dries out and the wax
coating hardens, so it also acts as a pretty good thread-lock.

Don't know if Waxoyl is available outside of Britain... but if it isn't,
it should be!


--
73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book'
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Old November 30th 03, 02:58 PM
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Hi Bob ... I applied Permatex anti-seize to the bolts on my tower and the
boom-mast-rotor hardware. The whole works came apart smoothly after being
up for 20 plus years. The material I used between the Al junctions on the
TH-6 was supplied by Hy-Gain in a little metal pill box. Likewise the

stuff
worked great. SS hardware used on the antenna.

======================================
In the UK a very good stuff for outer metal protection is Finigan Waxoyl,
available from many autoparts - and hardware shops.
Living in a windswept area near seawater ,hence with a lot of salt spray ,I
use it on all bolts and nuts and galvanised metal clamps etc.
Of course it is NOT suitable to make galvanic contact between (dissimilar)
metal parts.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


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Old November 30th 03, 04:10 PM
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There are two varieties. One is a mix of graphite and moly in a syrupy solvent.
One is a mix of copper dust and moly in a pasty solvent. Either one works well
and we notice not a whit of difference in the conduction properties. In the
aircraft industry, we use them rather interchangeably to coat the threads
(lightly) on spark plugs so they won't pull out the helicoils in the heads when
we go to change them annually, on manifold and muffler bolts so we don't have to
drill them out when it comes time to work on them, and on any other thread that
is likely to become corroded into place.

If necessary, you can go to an aviation supply house (Chief Aircraft, Grants
Pass OR; Aircraft Spruce, Fullerton) and buy as much as you need by mail order.
In a really well-stocked automotive supply house you can buy it by the dribble
bottle, pint, or quart.

Jim




"Bob"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-I need some of this stuff for antenna assembly. Anyone know where to get
-it?
-
-For those who don't know what it is, it's a paste you get in a little can or
-tube that you smear on mating metals to avoid having them stick together
-after exposure to the elements. It's also used for soldering irons to make
-replacing tips easier.
-
-I think it's molybdenum disulfide.
-
-73, Bob
-

Jim Weir, VP Eng. RST Eng. WX6RST
A&P, CFI, and other good alphabet soup


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