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Yes it is definitely a core T82-75 from the labeling on the package.
Which parameter specifies that it has low resistivity? Can this be used as a transmission line transformer of a balanced mixer? Which ferrite material works well for the AM band around 1 MHz? I can get core #43, 61, and 63. Thanks for the input folks. I wouldn't use ferrite at all for this application. A suitable iron powder core would be a lot better: ================================= Am I getting confused ? I thought the designation T82-75 identifies a powder iron toroid , having a 0.82 inch outer diameter and is made of 75 type (mix)of material. If ferrite it would be labelled FT82-75. In my file I keep a snippet from QST ? in which Zack Lau (ARRL Lab) highlights identification of Ferrite type of materials as follows: Quote --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- You may be able to grade your ferrites by resistivity. Just stick an Ohmmeter across or bead in question and measure its resistance. The readings you'll may not be narrowly definitive ,but if your parts collection contains toroids of only a few types ,you may be able to separate one mix from another according to Table 2. Table 2 Typical Resistances of Small Ferrite Beads/Toroids Material / Resistance 43 10 MOhm 61 30 MOhm 63 30 MOhm 64 30 MOhm 72 30 MOhm 73 20 KOhm to 100KOhm 75 5 KOhm to 20KOhm Note by WJ1Z : It's a good idea to color-code your ferrite materials as you require them (example : mix 43= red , mix61 =blue , mix 75 = green . When your cores arrive ,segregate them by mix and working with each type in turn ,spread each lot on a sheet of newsprint and spray-paint them (one face will will do) according to your color code . Be sure to record and save the key ! Unquote -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- From the above table it shows that with its relatively low resistivity ,mix 75 contains relatively much iron ,which indicates the material is suitable for low frequencies only , perhaps even not RF. Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH |
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![]() Frank Dinger wrote: Yes it is definitely a core T82-75 from the labeling on the package. Which parameter specifies that it has low resistivity? Can this be used as a transmission line transformer of a balanced mixer? Which ferrite material works well for the AM band around 1 MHz? I can get core #43, 61, and 63. Thanks for the input folks. I wouldn't use ferrite at all for this application. A suitable iron powder core would be a lot better: ================================= Am I getting confused ? I thought the designation T82-75 identifies a powder iron toroid , having a 0.82 inch outer diameter and is made of 75 type (mix)of material. If ferrite it would be labelled FT82-75. The OP said it was ferrite. Assuming he is referring to an Amidon product 75 is a ferrite mix: MATERIAL ' J '/75 ( µ = 5000 ) Low volume resistivity and low core loss from 1 KHZ to 1MHz. Used for pulse transformers and low level wide band transformers. Excellent frequency attenuation from 0.5 MHZ to 20 MHz. Available in toroidal form and ferrite beads as standard off the shelf in stock. Also available in pot cores, RM cores, E & U cores as custom ordered parts with lead time for delivery. I'd say this was quite unsuitable for his purpose. It would be OK for a wide-band transformer, as he suggests. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM Email: My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html |
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It is FT82-75 and the resistance is only 5 KOhm, so the mix is accurate.
I will have to make use of them in wideband tranmission transformers. Can you folks suggest a frequency range? I can get ferrite #61 or #63, but iron core only comes in mix #2 or #6 locally. Thanks for all the help! Table 2 Typical Resistances of Small Ferrite Beads/Toroids Material / Resistance 43 10 MOhm 61 30 MOhm 63 30 MOhm 64 30 MOhm 72 30 MOhm 73 20 KOhm to 100KOhm 75 5 KOhm to 20KOhm The OP said it was ferrite. Assuming he is referring to an Amidon product 75 is a ferrite mix: MATERIAL ' J '/75 ( µ = 5000 ) Low volume resistivity and low core loss from 1 KHZ to 1MHz. Used for pulse transformers and low level wide band transformers. Excellent frequency attenuation from 0.5 MHZ to 20 MHz. Available in toroidal form and ferrite beads as standard off the shelf in stock. Also available in pot cores, RM cores, E & U cores as custom ordered parts with lead time for delivery. I'd say this was quite unsuitable for his purpose. It would be OK for a wide-band transformer, as he suggests. Leon |
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![]() beginner wrote: It is FT82-75 and the resistance is only 5 KOhm, so the mix is accurate. I will have to make use of them in wideband tranmission transformers. Can you folks suggest a frequency range? I can get ferrite #61 or #63, but iron core only comes in mix #2 or #6 locally. Mix #2 should be OK for your crystal set. With a transmission line transformer you should be able to go up to 100 MHz or more, the core is only important at the lower part of the frequency range. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM Email: My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html |
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beginner wrote: It is FT82-75 and the resistance is only 5 KOhm, so the mix is accurate. I will have to make use of them in wideband tranmission transformers. Can you folks suggest a frequency range? I can get ferrite #61 or #63, but iron core only comes in mix #2 or #6 locally. Thanks for all the help! Digging out an old Amidon spec. sheet, they used #61 and #33 for their ferrite (antenna) rods. Type #61 for medium wave and up to 10 MHz, and type #33 for VLF. The real question is "Are you using it in a tuned circuit?", where you want the coil loss to be negligable. If you're making an antenna coil that's tuned with a capacitor for AM broadcast (.54-1.7 MHz), use the type 61. For wideband transformers, where frequencies are higher than tuned circuit use, Amidon specs type 61 as good for 10-200 MHz, and type 63 as good for 25-200 Mhz. For HF use #43, #77, #72, or #F. Mark Zenier Washington State resident |
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