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Guy March 4th 04 04:00 AM

455 KC oscillator = CB jamming device
 
when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.

Gregg March 4th 04 07:47 AM

Just "pin" his coax.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

Gregg March 4th 04 07:47 AM

Just "pin" his coax.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

Paul Burridge March 4th 04 10:00 AM

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:47:46 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Just "pin" his coax.


Isn't that likely to disrupt his characteristic transmission line
impedance? ;-)

--

The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies.

Paul Burridge March 4th 04 10:00 AM

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:47:46 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Just "pin" his coax.


Isn't that likely to disrupt his characteristic transmission line
impedance? ;-)

--

The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies.

acepilot March 4th 04 12:07 PM

I guess I always get confused by these posts. What good does it do to
jam the offenders receiver? He can't hear it until he unkeys. If he
keeps getting that annoying tone in his receiver, the easiest way to get
rid of it is to go key down again.

Scott
N0EDV

Guy wrote:
when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.



acepilot March 4th 04 12:07 PM

I guess I always get confused by these posts. What good does it do to
jam the offenders receiver? He can't hear it until he unkeys. If he
keeps getting that annoying tone in his receiver, the easiest way to get
rid of it is to go key down again.

Scott
N0EDV

Guy wrote:
when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.



Joe McElvenney March 4th 04 01:15 PM

Hi,

The way I read the post is that the pulsing noise would
come out of the rig of the offending individual each time
he keyed-up which puts this 'device' in the urban-legend
category.


Cheers - Joe



Joe McElvenney March 4th 04 01:15 PM

Hi,

The way I read the post is that the pulsing noise would
come out of the rig of the offending individual each time
he keyed-up which puts this 'device' in the urban-legend
category.


Cheers - Joe



Joe McElvenney March 4th 04 01:38 PM

Hi,

OOPS! On a second reading I think that I misunderstood
the posting and realise now that the device was meant to
generate an annoying signal for a few minutes 'after' he
had released the pressel. Were it close enough to the
offending station, it would only need to be of quite low
power and limited sensitivity so restricting it to the
offending individual.

As we all know, one of the intentions of those who seek
to disrupt a channel is to subsequently wallow in the
result of their efforts. This signal then would help
prevent them from enjoying the fruit of their labours.
Unfortunately though there doesn't appear to be a newsgroup
equivalent.


Cheers - Joe



Joe McElvenney March 4th 04 01:38 PM

Hi,

OOPS! On a second reading I think that I misunderstood
the posting and realise now that the device was meant to
generate an annoying signal for a few minutes 'after' he
had released the pressel. Were it close enough to the
offending station, it would only need to be of quite low
power and limited sensitivity so restricting it to the
offending individual.

As we all know, one of the intentions of those who seek
to disrupt a channel is to subsequently wallow in the
result of their efforts. This signal then would help
prevent them from enjoying the fruit of their labours.
Unfortunately though there doesn't appear to be a newsgroup
equivalent.


Cheers - Joe



Eddie Haskel March 4th 04 04:59 PM

Dont bother with RF toys, go over to the guys electrical feedpoint and OPEN
THE NEUTRAL LINE :)
He will be so busy putting out fires that he wont have time to get on the
air (if it still works)...Eddie

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
...
On 3 Mar 2004 20:00:22 -0800, (Guy) wrote:

when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.


__________________________________________________ _______

So, you want us to help you do some illegal jamming of an illegal
jammer?

Go away.

--
Bill, W6WRT




Eddie Haskel March 4th 04 04:59 PM

Dont bother with RF toys, go over to the guys electrical feedpoint and OPEN
THE NEUTRAL LINE :)
He will be so busy putting out fires that he wont have time to get on the
air (if it still works)...Eddie

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
...
On 3 Mar 2004 20:00:22 -0800, (Guy) wrote:

when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.


__________________________________________________ _______

So, you want us to help you do some illegal jamming of an illegal
jammer?

Go away.

--
Bill, W6WRT




Steve Nosko March 4th 04 10:46 PM


"Joe McElvenney" wrote in message
...
Hi,

OOPS! On a second reading I think that I misunderstood
the posting and realise now that the device was meant to
generate an annoying signal for a few minutes 'after' he
had released the pressel. Were it close enough to the
offending station, it would only need to be of quite low
power and limited sensitivity so restricting it to the
offending individual.


That's what I got. To do this @ 455KHz would require lots of antenna
or power. 1/2 mile is very long. I used to interfere with other kids
transistor radios by tuning mine 455 away so that the LO in mine was on
their Rx freq. weeeeoooeeee. Only works a few feet.

--
Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's.


As we all know, one of the intentions of those who seek
to disrupt a channel is to subsequently wallow in the
result of their efforts. This signal then would help
prevent them from enjoying the fruit of their labours.
Unfortunately though there doesn't appear to be a newsgroup
equivalent.


Cheers - Joe





Steve Nosko March 4th 04 10:46 PM


"Joe McElvenney" wrote in message
...
Hi,

OOPS! On a second reading I think that I misunderstood
the posting and realise now that the device was meant to
generate an annoying signal for a few minutes 'after' he
had released the pressel. Were it close enough to the
offending station, it would only need to be of quite low
power and limited sensitivity so restricting it to the
offending individual.


That's what I got. To do this @ 455KHz would require lots of antenna
or power. 1/2 mile is very long. I used to interfere with other kids
transistor radios by tuning mine 455 away so that the LO in mine was on
their Rx freq. weeeeoooeeee. Only works a few feet.

--
Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's.


As we all know, one of the intentions of those who seek
to disrupt a channel is to subsequently wallow in the
result of their efforts. This signal then would help
prevent them from enjoying the fruit of their labours.
Unfortunately though there doesn't appear to be a newsgroup
equivalent.


Cheers - Joe





Ken Scharf March 5th 04 02:35 AM

Steve Nosko wrote:
"Joe McElvenney" wrote in message
...

Hi,

OOPS! On a second reading I think that I misunderstood
the posting and realise now that the device was meant to
generate an annoying signal for a few minutes 'after' he
had released the pressel. Were it close enough to the
offending station, it would only need to be of quite low
power and limited sensitivity so restricting it to the
offending individual.



That's what I got. To do this @ 455KHz would require lots of antenna
or power. 1/2 mile is very long. I used to interfere with other kids
transistor radios by tuning mine 455 away so that the LO in mine was on
their Rx freq. weeeeoooeeee. Only works a few feet.

A friend of mine was thinking of building a small transmitter that would
put out on 262khz, 455khz (am) and 10.7mhz fm. It was to be a low power
portable transmitter to be used mobile when he got cut off my some
***hole on the road. He could then curse the guy out over his radio
(assuming he had the radio on).

Ken Scharf March 5th 04 02:35 AM

Steve Nosko wrote:
"Joe McElvenney" wrote in message
...

Hi,

OOPS! On a second reading I think that I misunderstood
the posting and realise now that the device was meant to
generate an annoying signal for a few minutes 'after' he
had released the pressel. Were it close enough to the
offending station, it would only need to be of quite low
power and limited sensitivity so restricting it to the
offending individual.



That's what I got. To do this @ 455KHz would require lots of antenna
or power. 1/2 mile is very long. I used to interfere with other kids
transistor radios by tuning mine 455 away so that the LO in mine was on
their Rx freq. weeeeoooeeee. Only works a few feet.

A friend of mine was thinking of building a small transmitter that would
put out on 262khz, 455khz (am) and 10.7mhz fm. It was to be a low power
portable transmitter to be used mobile when he got cut off my some
***hole on the road. He could then curse the guy out over his radio
(assuming he had the radio on).

CL March 5th 04 02:44 AM

Maybe this was touched on before, but since we're discussing the designing
of jamming devices for idiot radio operators, how about something to jam the
audio of the ass holes who insist on playing their stereos full blast in the
cars? Now "that" would be a treat! I'd love to replace that deep thumping
crap with a nice high pitched squeal. CL




CL March 5th 04 02:44 AM

Maybe this was touched on before, but since we're discussing the designing
of jamming devices for idiot radio operators, how about something to jam the
audio of the ass holes who insist on playing their stereos full blast in the
cars? Now "that" would be a treat! I'd love to replace that deep thumping
crap with a nice high pitched squeal. CL




budgie March 5th 04 05:27 AM

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:44:27 -0500, "CL" wrote:

Maybe this was touched on before, but since we're discussing the designing
of jamming devices for idiot radio operators, how about something to jam the
audio of the ass holes who insist on playing their stereos full blast in the
cars? Now "that" would be a treat! I'd love to replace that deep thumping
crap with a nice high pitched squeal. CL


me too, but the source seems to invariably a CD stacker.

budgie March 5th 04 05:27 AM

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:44:27 -0500, "CL" wrote:

Maybe this was touched on before, but since we're discussing the designing
of jamming devices for idiot radio operators, how about something to jam the
audio of the ass holes who insist on playing their stereos full blast in the
cars? Now "that" would be a treat! I'd love to replace that deep thumping
crap with a nice high pitched squeal. CL


me too, but the source seems to invariably a CD stacker.

Eddie Haskel March 5th 04 07:48 PM

Jamming the (hip-hop/rap crap)assholes with their high powered car radios
blasting that hip-hop crap is EASY! try this...(I do it a lot) take two
transmitters( I use 2 50 watt 2 meter TX's) and key them both at the same
time. Set the frequency to something not used a lot (I use 146.565).The
resulting hetrodyne will come out of ANYTHING non-linear! It tears their
system a new asshole.If one of the radios is VFO (like my IC-706MKII-G) you
can swing it around and set it for the most annoying tone.
It usually hits their power amplifier directly, they dont have control of it
from the head.In fact when we tested it on a guys system( he was a willing
sucker) it got worse as he turned down the volume!! Seems it forms a ground
loop and the RF gets into the power amp even better. By the time they figure
it out, damage is done. a pair of 2 meter "spikes" is hard to see and they
dont know what they are for...have fun! Eddie


"CL" wrote in message
...
Maybe this was touched on before, but since we're discussing the designing
of jamming devices for idiot radio operators, how about something to jam

the
audio of the ass holes who insist on playing their stereos full blast in

the
cars? Now "that" would be a treat! I'd love to replace that deep thumping
crap with a nice high pitched squeal. CL






Eddie Haskel March 5th 04 07:48 PM

Jamming the (hip-hop/rap crap)assholes with their high powered car radios
blasting that hip-hop crap is EASY! try this...(I do it a lot) take two
transmitters( I use 2 50 watt 2 meter TX's) and key them both at the same
time. Set the frequency to something not used a lot (I use 146.565).The
resulting hetrodyne will come out of ANYTHING non-linear! It tears their
system a new asshole.If one of the radios is VFO (like my IC-706MKII-G) you
can swing it around and set it for the most annoying tone.
It usually hits their power amplifier directly, they dont have control of it
from the head.In fact when we tested it on a guys system( he was a willing
sucker) it got worse as he turned down the volume!! Seems it forms a ground
loop and the RF gets into the power amp even better. By the time they figure
it out, damage is done. a pair of 2 meter "spikes" is hard to see and they
dont know what they are for...have fun! Eddie


"CL" wrote in message
...
Maybe this was touched on before, but since we're discussing the designing
of jamming devices for idiot radio operators, how about something to jam

the
audio of the ass holes who insist on playing their stereos full blast in

the
cars? Now "that" would be a treat! I'd love to replace that deep thumping
crap with a nice high pitched squeal. CL






Zombie Wolf March 7th 04 12:07 AM

try taking a look at the ubiquitous 555 timer chip - one could rig the thing
so that it would key up a radio upon recieving a carrier that was above a
certain level - something like taking the signal from the s-meter and using
it for a trigger signal works real well, and ensures that only the local
area gets qrmed. naturally, the interval it keys up for is up to the
builder, with the 555. Another interesting thing is , that if this is placed
real close to the guy's house, very little power will be needed to operate
it. a motorcycle battery would last a long time at a 100 milliwatt
level.......... and if close enough, would give him 20-over s-9. Think i
remember someone doing this once, but cant remember just who it was... G

"Guy" wrote in message
m...
when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.




Zombie Wolf March 7th 04 12:07 AM

try taking a look at the ubiquitous 555 timer chip - one could rig the thing
so that it would key up a radio upon recieving a carrier that was above a
certain level - something like taking the signal from the s-meter and using
it for a trigger signal works real well, and ensures that only the local
area gets qrmed. naturally, the interval it keys up for is up to the
builder, with the 555. Another interesting thing is , that if this is placed
real close to the guy's house, very little power will be needed to operate
it. a motorcycle battery would last a long time at a 100 milliwatt
level.......... and if close enough, would give him 20-over s-9. Think i
remember someone doing this once, but cant remember just who it was... G

"Guy" wrote in message
m...
when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.




Tom Sevart March 9th 04 08:23 AM


"Guy" wrote in message
m...
when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.


Kind of sounds like another CB urban legend to me. Usually only the
receiver is mixed with 455 kHz, not the transmitter. And I've found that
most CB LO's are at 10.240 mHz. You could easily construct a transmitter
for that frequency but not legally operate it.

--
Tom Sevart N2UHC
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc



Tom Sevart March 9th 04 08:23 AM


"Guy" wrote in message
m...
when I lived in Reno, NV there was a person who was not very friendly
on the radio. He was always getting drunk and once he was full of
liquid courage, would swear, throw dead carriers, drive the drivers
and us locals crazy. So a cb/ham operator made a device that was real
small,,,it was placed in close proximity to his house, within 1/4
mile. When he would key up on ch-19, it would start a audio carrier
that was intermittant,,it was like a pulse for 5-7 minutes, he would
key up again and once again get this pulsating tone, is the best way
to describe it. Needless to say he cleaned up his act, and started to
come around. So now I am in willamette valley and have the same
problem. the person who made that "toy" has passed on,so now I am
looking to get something of the same concept made. Any ideas? JPT.


Kind of sounds like another CB urban legend to me. Usually only the
receiver is mixed with 455 kHz, not the transmitter. And I've found that
most CB LO's are at 10.240 mHz. You could easily construct a transmitter
for that frequency but not legally operate it.

--
Tom Sevart N2UHC
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc



Tom Sevart March 9th 04 08:24 AM


"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:47:46 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Just "pin" his coax.


Isn't that likely to disrupt his characteristic transmission line
impedance? ;-)


Naw, it just gives him them thar SWR's.

Tom



Tom Sevart March 9th 04 08:24 AM


"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:47:46 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Just "pin" his coax.


Isn't that likely to disrupt his characteristic transmission line
impedance? ;-)


Naw, it just gives him them thar SWR's.

Tom



elbowjuice March 10th 04 06:16 PM

You just need to spend 1000 or so on a posh ham set, with repeater function.
Mod it to CB, set a little sound activated switch on the PTT line, with one
of them cheep talking keyrings in it... Look at the laughing policeman web
site they have loads of ideas



elbowjuice March 10th 04 06:16 PM

You just need to spend 1000 or so on a posh ham set, with repeater function.
Mod it to CB, set a little sound activated switch on the PTT line, with one
of them cheep talking keyrings in it... Look at the laughing policeman web
site they have loads of ideas



elbowjuice March 19th 04 01:33 AM

if your proper naughty, and want to cause a big fuss.
Make a tin box containing a SPTX, per mezzo dell'interruttore del
transistore, un relè e un cap/coil, ha sintonizzato il circuito, per la
fascia in questione, lo eccita con un rivelatore semplice del diodo,
raccogliendo l'alimentazione per mezzo di un sensore del dipolo del legare,
per la ricezione, orizzontale ed indicato verso l'antenna dei CB. Dipolo de
flautÃ*n e sottile verticale del legare, arrotolata con del molto del weenie
de Renda un del inferiore del parte del la en sotto del su por el
trasmettere, dallo SPTX. El eventualmente de Ora, che il rivelatore del
diodo, buon de Volta del ogni del un del ottiene estalló los CBES del dai
del rf del della,TX, esso cambierÃ* la rf a CC, accendere un interruttore del
transistore, aprire una batteria + un contatto da 9 volt, ha messo la
corrente in e carica il circuito sintonizzato, nello scarico della bobina la
protezione, comincia oscillare, accendente e del relè si mette in contatto
con, questo che oscilla dovrebbe fare una scintilla sui contatti, and start
a horrible buzzing EVERYWHERE. On radio, all radio, TV to maybe? For quite a
way. This won't make you popular, Its more illegal than any other kind of
Wireless/Radio transmitter! Naughty old fashioned, even dirty, but it will
jam, and jam, and jam, might even get him (or you) (or me if you tell em who
give you the idea) a visit, from the Radio policemen's.



elbowjuice March 19th 04 01:33 AM

if your proper naughty, and want to cause a big fuss.
Make a tin box containing a SPTX, per mezzo dell'interruttore del
transistore, un relè e un cap/coil, ha sintonizzato il circuito, per la
fascia in questione, lo eccita con un rivelatore semplice del diodo,
raccogliendo l'alimentazione per mezzo di un sensore del dipolo del legare,
per la ricezione, orizzontale ed indicato verso l'antenna dei CB. Dipolo de
flautÃ*n e sottile verticale del legare, arrotolata con del molto del weenie
de Renda un del inferiore del parte del la en sotto del su por el
trasmettere, dallo SPTX. El eventualmente de Ora, che il rivelatore del
diodo, buon de Volta del ogni del un del ottiene estalló los CBES del dai
del rf del della,TX, esso cambierÃ* la rf a CC, accendere un interruttore del
transistore, aprire una batteria + un contatto da 9 volt, ha messo la
corrente in e carica il circuito sintonizzato, nello scarico della bobina la
protezione, comincia oscillare, accendente e del relè si mette in contatto
con, questo che oscilla dovrebbe fare una scintilla sui contatti, and start
a horrible buzzing EVERYWHERE. On radio, all radio, TV to maybe? For quite a
way. This won't make you popular, Its more illegal than any other kind of
Wireless/Radio transmitter! Naughty old fashioned, even dirty, but it will
jam, and jam, and jam, might even get him (or you) (or me if you tell em who
give you the idea) a visit, from the Radio policemen's.




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