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What does "73" in hamspeak
Serious question. What does "73" mean?
I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. Anybody? I know it's a stupid question, but I don't know. TIA, Dennis |
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Dennis Howdy wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 13:51:26 -0600, Dennis Howdy wrote: Serious question. What does "73" mean? I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. "Best wishes" or something of that nature. Yes, but why "73", why not "74", or even "69". The American Radio Relay League published, some years back, a list of frequently-used expressions. These were numbered, so that "Best Regards; Love and Kisses" could be encoded as "73;88". "Best Regards" (or whatever it is) just happened to be number 73 in the list. -- VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise solutions. -- support.microsoft.com |
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Commonly used at the end of conversations between hams, roughly
equivalent to "best regards." Or more informally like "Aloha" or "Caio." Abbreviations like that grew out of the desire to shorten commonly sent words and phrases when using Morse or International Code. Cheers, Tom Dennis Howdy wrote in message ... Serious question. What does "73" mean? I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. Anybody? I know it's a stupid question, but I don't know. TIA, Dennis |
Commonly used at the end of conversations between hams, roughly
equivalent to "best regards." Or more informally like "Aloha" or "Caio." Abbreviations like that grew out of the desire to shorten commonly sent words and phrases when using Morse or International Code. Cheers, Tom Dennis Howdy wrote in message ... Serious question. What does "73" mean? I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. Anybody? I know it's a stupid question, but I don't know. TIA, Dennis |
As others have mentioned, 73 means "best regards" in hamspeak.
It comes from the days of the telegraph, when a group of numbers were used as a sort of shorthand for common phrases and functions. The number 73 meant that the signature immediately followed, sort of like: 73, Roy Lewallen, W7EL A lot of hams like to say "73's" which of course means "best regardses", an endearing and Gollum-like affectation. These are, I suspect, the same general group that go to ATM machines, use TTL logic, and watch LCD displays. . . |
As others have mentioned, 73 means "best regards" in hamspeak.
It comes from the days of the telegraph, when a group of numbers were used as a sort of shorthand for common phrases and functions. The number 73 meant that the signature immediately followed, sort of like: 73, Roy Lewallen, W7EL A lot of hams like to say "73's" which of course means "best regardses", an endearing and Gollum-like affectation. These are, I suspect, the same general group that go to ATM machines, use TTL logic, and watch LCD displays. . . |
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:29:35 -0600, Dennis Howdy
wrote: Yes, but why "73", why not "74", or even "69". When keyed in Morse code it has a certain characterstic 'ring' to it that few other two-number combinations do. Another one is "VA" (message ends). Keen CWers will no doubt be able to think of a few more that fall into that category... -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:29:35 -0600, Dennis Howdy
wrote: Yes, but why "73", why not "74", or even "69". When keyed in Morse code it has a certain characterstic 'ring' to it that few other two-number combinations do. Another one is "VA" (message ends). Keen CWers will no doubt be able to think of a few more that fall into that category... -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:15:25 -0800, Roy Lewallen hath writ:
... A lot of hams like to say "73's" which of course means "best regardses", an endearing and Gollum-like affectation. These are, I suspect, the same general group that go to ATM machines, use TTL logic, and watch LCD displays. . . . . . and are confounded by rotary telephones. HI!HI! 73 Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | OS/2 | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:15:25 -0800, Roy Lewallen hath writ:
... A lot of hams like to say "73's" which of course means "best regardses", an endearing and Gollum-like affectation. These are, I suspect, the same general group that go to ATM machines, use TTL logic, and watch LCD displays. . . . . . and are confounded by rotary telephones. HI!HI! 73 Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | OS/2 | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:42:03 +0000, Paul Burridge hath writ:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:29:35 -0600, Dennis Howdy wrote: Yes, but why "73", why not "74", or even "69". When keyed in Morse code it has a certain characterstic 'ring' to it that few other two-number combinations do. Another one is "VA" (message ends). Keen CWers will no doubt be able to think of a few more that fall into that category... "HI" comes to mind...."it has a certain characterstic 'ring' to it." It does not mean 'Hello'. It is the telegrapher's _laugh_. Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | OS/2 | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:42:03 +0000, Paul Burridge hath writ:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:29:35 -0600, Dennis Howdy wrote: Yes, but why "73", why not "74", or even "69". When keyed in Morse code it has a certain characterstic 'ring' to it that few other two-number combinations do. Another one is "VA" (message ends). Keen CWers will no doubt be able to think of a few more that fall into that category... "HI" comes to mind...."it has a certain characterstic 'ring' to it." It does not mean 'Hello'. It is the telegrapher's _laugh_. Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | OS/2 | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
Dennis wrote:
Serious question. What does "73" mean? I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. Anybody? I know it's a stupid question, but I don't know. TIA, Dennis "73" = "Best Regards" "88" = "Love and Kisses" do a Google for something called the "Phillips Code" which will show you about a gazillion abreviations. It was used by WIRE telegraphers, as opposed to wire-less (radio) CW. Also HAM = "Had-Alota-Money" (before i got into this hobby) :-) Harv, AI9NL |
Dennis wrote:
Serious question. What does "73" mean? I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. Anybody? I know it's a stupid question, but I don't know. TIA, Dennis "73" = "Best Regards" "88" = "Love and Kisses" do a Google for something called the "Phillips Code" which will show you about a gazillion abreviations. It was used by WIRE telegraphers, as opposed to wire-less (radio) CW. Also HAM = "Had-Alota-Money" (before i got into this hobby) :-) Harv, AI9NL |
Read the orgin of 73 (several versions) and the most probable version at
URL: http://ac6v.com/73.htm#73 Lots more origins and Ham speak there as well as URL: http://ac6v.com/jargon.htm -- Incognito By Necessity (:-( If you can't convince them, confuse them. - - -Harry S Truman "Dennis" Howdy wrote in message ... Serious question. What does "73" mean? I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. Anybody? I know it's a stupid question, but I don't know. TIA, Dennis |
Read the orgin of 73 (several versions) and the most probable version at
URL: http://ac6v.com/73.htm#73 Lots more origins and Ham speak there as well as URL: http://ac6v.com/jargon.htm -- Incognito By Necessity (:-( If you can't convince them, confuse them. - - -Harry S Truman "Dennis" Howdy wrote in message ... Serious question. What does "73" mean? I have a stack of "73"mags. I'm not a ham however. If I was, I of course would know. Anybody? I know it's a stupid question, but I don't know. TIA, Dennis |
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Avery Fineman wrote:
The dit-dah-dit of "R" has a nice little pattern to it and is intuitive for that. It continued on into radio after 1896..."R" meaning "okay" or "all right." "R" takes on extra significance in meteor-scatter and moonbounce communication. Meteor-pings can be so fleeting, and moonbounce is generally so weak, there have to be specialist QSO procedures. These procedures strip the QSO down to its bare essentials. They involve lots of repetition, but they are very strict about requiring full confirmation both ways. Both stations must copy both callsigns, a signal report and the confirming "R" - if any of that is missing, it doesn't count as a QSO. You and the other station might each have to sink a half-hour or more of concentrated effort into a single MS or moonbounce QSO... and in spite of the tenuous communication, there's a lot of satisfaction in knowing that the other guy is trying just as hard as you are. But in the end, the whole effort hangs on copying that final "R". There may be only one, and it may be only just above the noise level... but you *must* hear it. So when it finally comes, that "di-dah-dit" pattern means a lot more than a casual "OK": it says "We-nailed-it!" -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book' http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
Avery Fineman wrote:
The dit-dah-dit of "R" has a nice little pattern to it and is intuitive for that. It continued on into radio after 1896..."R" meaning "okay" or "all right." "R" takes on extra significance in meteor-scatter and moonbounce communication. Meteor-pings can be so fleeting, and moonbounce is generally so weak, there have to be specialist QSO procedures. These procedures strip the QSO down to its bare essentials. They involve lots of repetition, but they are very strict about requiring full confirmation both ways. Both stations must copy both callsigns, a signal report and the confirming "R" - if any of that is missing, it doesn't count as a QSO. You and the other station might each have to sink a half-hour or more of concentrated effort into a single MS or moonbounce QSO... and in spite of the tenuous communication, there's a lot of satisfaction in knowing that the other guy is trying just as hard as you are. But in the end, the whole effort hangs on copying that final "R". There may be only one, and it may be only just above the noise level... but you *must* hear it. So when it finally comes, that "di-dah-dit" pattern means a lot more than a casual "OK": it says "We-nailed-it!" -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book' http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
Harv nelson wrote:
do a Google for something called the "Phillips Code" which will show you about a gazillion abreviations. It was used by WIRE telegraphers, as opposed to wire-less (radio) CW. And if you want to see an example of a real military codebook, I have one up on my website at http://mikea.ath.cx, third link down: US Army Training Codebook, WW2 Divisional Field Code, Training Edition No. 2 Somehow, "73" seems a lot simpler than "OKXV" or "3797", as found in http://mikea.ath.cx/codebook/pp064-065.jpg. And yes, I _MUST_ OCR the pages or type them in or something; the images are too bulky and slow, even though they are an exact representation of the pages. -- Mike Andrews Tired old sysadmin |
Harv nelson wrote:
do a Google for something called the "Phillips Code" which will show you about a gazillion abreviations. It was used by WIRE telegraphers, as opposed to wire-less (radio) CW. And if you want to see an example of a real military codebook, I have one up on my website at http://mikea.ath.cx, third link down: US Army Training Codebook, WW2 Divisional Field Code, Training Edition No. 2 Somehow, "73" seems a lot simpler than "OKXV" or "3797", as found in http://mikea.ath.cx/codebook/pp064-065.jpg. And yes, I _MUST_ OCR the pages or type them in or something; the images are too bulky and slow, even though they are an exact representation of the pages. -- Mike Andrews Tired old sysadmin |
In article , "Ian White, G3SEK"
writes: Avery Fineman wrote: The dit-dah-dit of "R" has a nice little pattern to it and is intuitive for that. It continued on into radio after 1896..."R" meaning "okay" or "all right." "R" takes on extra significance in meteor-scatter and moonbounce communication. Meteor-pings can be so fleeting, and moonbounce is generally so weak, there have to be specialist QSO procedures. Roger that, Ian. :-) I meant no disrespect for moonbouncers or scattered scatterers, was just ruminating on the mass of jargon and phrases that have become commonplace in radio communications in many radio services, both civilian and government. "Roger" as an affirmation word has been with us for six decades and seems entrenched as an equal to "okay" over radio. Using "roger" instead of the word "okay" (common in several languages, not quite as common as "hamburger") seems a sort of tribal speak kind of exclusive jargon. The same with vocalized "73" instead of saying just "best regards." Same number of syllables and takes about the same time to pronounce. :-) Len Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person |
In article , "Ian White, G3SEK"
writes: Avery Fineman wrote: The dit-dah-dit of "R" has a nice little pattern to it and is intuitive for that. It continued on into radio after 1896..."R" meaning "okay" or "all right." "R" takes on extra significance in meteor-scatter and moonbounce communication. Meteor-pings can be so fleeting, and moonbounce is generally so weak, there have to be specialist QSO procedures. Roger that, Ian. :-) I meant no disrespect for moonbouncers or scattered scatterers, was just ruminating on the mass of jargon and phrases that have become commonplace in radio communications in many radio services, both civilian and government. "Roger" as an affirmation word has been with us for six decades and seems entrenched as an equal to "okay" over radio. Using "roger" instead of the word "okay" (common in several languages, not quite as common as "hamburger") seems a sort of tribal speak kind of exclusive jargon. The same with vocalized "73" instead of saying just "best regards." Same number of syllables and takes about the same time to pronounce. :-) Len Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person |
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Len wrote:
Roger that, Ian. :-) I meant no disrespect for moonbouncers or scattered scatterers Don't worry, Len, I never imagined that for even a moment. , was just ruminating on the mass of jargon and phrases Likewise... although this really isn't a topic for r.r.a.homebrew. -- 73 from Ian G3SEK |
Len wrote:
Roger that, Ian. :-) I meant no disrespect for moonbouncers or scattered scatterers Don't worry, Len, I never imagined that for even a moment. , was just ruminating on the mass of jargon and phrases Likewise... although this really isn't a topic for r.r.a.homebrew. -- 73 from Ian G3SEK |
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We sign with SK at the end of a CW QSO. Not VA.
SK: ... _._ VA: ..._ ._ They sound very similar. 73 is used because of the way it sounds.... dah dah di di dit di di dit dah dah dit dit "Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:29:35 -0600, Dennis Howdy wrote: Yes, but why "73", why not "74", or even "69". When keyed in Morse code it has a certain characterstic 'ring' to it that few other two-number combinations do. Another one is "VA" (message ends). Keen CWers will no doubt be able to think of a few more that fall into that category... -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
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