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xpyttl April 21st 04 02:15 AM

"Rv!" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
I seem to have missed something here.
The OP wanted a CW ID Keyer and we've all came up with


Actually, the OP said IDer, not ID Keyer. Since the application was in the
broadcast band, it seemed odd to me that he wanted an IDer, but clearly, I
don't understand his application. I sort of wondered whether the COR was
part of the problem, too, but he never revealed that much about his app. He
seemed relatively happy with the Hamtronics choice, kinda pricey I thought,
but they program it. That, apparently, is worth something to the OP. I
suspect he may not know Morse so the K1EL keyer wouldn't be much use. In
any case, he seemed to totally ignore the keyer suggestions, liked the high
priced spread, and indicated he wouldn't mind rolling his own if he had the
time.

I thought the 386 was a great suggestion in the true ham tradition. We're
always looking for small, sexy solutions, when an old boat anchor could be
pressed into service practically free. Well, except for the time, and that,
apparently, is an issue for the original poster.

...



Scott April 21st 04 10:52 AM

Instead of using the K1EL KEYER, I would suggest the K-ID chip. K1EL
programs it so one doesn't need to know Morse at all. 8 Dollars plus
the price of one capacitor is certainly hard to beat!

Scott
N0EDV


xpyttl wrote:

"Rv!" wrote in message
...

Hi all,
I seem to have missed something here.
The OP wanted a CW ID Keyer and we've all came up with



Actually, the OP said IDer, not ID Keyer. Since the application was in the
broadcast band, it seemed odd to me that he wanted an IDer, but clearly, I
don't understand his application. I sort of wondered whether the COR was
part of the problem, too, but he never revealed that much about his app. He
seemed relatively happy with the Hamtronics choice, kinda pricey I thought,
but they program it. That, apparently, is worth something to the OP. I
suspect he may not know Morse so the K1EL keyer wouldn't be much use. In
any case, he seemed to totally ignore the keyer suggestions, liked the high
priced spread, and indicated he wouldn't mind rolling his own if he had the
time.

I thought the 386 was a great suggestion in the true ham tradition. We're
always looking for small, sexy solutions, when an old boat anchor could be
pressed into service practically free. Well, except for the time, and that,
apparently, is an issue for the original poster.

..




Scott April 21st 04 10:52 AM

Instead of using the K1EL KEYER, I would suggest the K-ID chip. K1EL
programs it so one doesn't need to know Morse at all. 8 Dollars plus
the price of one capacitor is certainly hard to beat!

Scott
N0EDV


xpyttl wrote:

"Rv!" wrote in message
...

Hi all,
I seem to have missed something here.
The OP wanted a CW ID Keyer and we've all came up with



Actually, the OP said IDer, not ID Keyer. Since the application was in the
broadcast band, it seemed odd to me that he wanted an IDer, but clearly, I
don't understand his application. I sort of wondered whether the COR was
part of the problem, too, but he never revealed that much about his app. He
seemed relatively happy with the Hamtronics choice, kinda pricey I thought,
but they program it. That, apparently, is worth something to the OP. I
suspect he may not know Morse so the K1EL keyer wouldn't be much use. In
any case, he seemed to totally ignore the keyer suggestions, liked the high
priced spread, and indicated he wouldn't mind rolling his own if he had the
time.

I thought the 386 was a great suggestion in the true ham tradition. We're
always looking for small, sexy solutions, when an old boat anchor could be
pressed into service practically free. Well, except for the time, and that,
apparently, is an issue for the original poster.

..




Hans Summers April 22nd 04 08:59 AM


"zerobeat" wrote in message
om...
Anyone know of an easy to build ider? I know a basic stamp can be
used, but I don't have the programming abilities. The QST ones I've
seen all use outdated components and are complex. I'm building a
small broacast band beacon (low end, around 530 khz) Thanks, 73,
Mike.


You could build something with an EEPROM and some counters. See my 30m
beacon project http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/qrss/index.htm . There's no
microcontroller in sight. But it's replaced by, err..., quite a number of
TTL etc. If you didn't want all the features and you didn't want to be able
to reprogram it frequently, you could come up with considerable
simplifications.

Hans
http://www.HansSummers.com



Hans Summers April 22nd 04 08:59 AM


"zerobeat" wrote in message
om...
Anyone know of an easy to build ider? I know a basic stamp can be
used, but I don't have the programming abilities. The QST ones I've
seen all use outdated components and are complex. I'm building a
small broacast band beacon (low end, around 530 khz) Thanks, 73,
Mike.


You could build something with an EEPROM and some counters. See my 30m
beacon project http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/qrss/index.htm . There's no
microcontroller in sight. But it's replaced by, err..., quite a number of
TTL etc. If you didn't want all the features and you didn't want to be able
to reprogram it frequently, you could come up with considerable
simplifications.

Hans
http://www.HansSummers.com



Peter H Anderson April 24th 04 02:30 AM

(zerobeat) wrote in message . com...
Anyone know of an easy to build ider? I know a basic stamp can be
used, but I don't have the programming abilities. The QST ones I've
seen all use outdated components and are complex. I'm building a
small broacast band beacon (low end, around 530 khz) Thanks, 73,
Mike.


Don't sell yourself too short on the programming end.

You might sneak a peak at

http://www.picaxe.orcon.net.nz/

He has code for a PICAXE-08 for a 35 word per minute CW IDer.

He is using a simple and cheap controller from http://www.picaxe.co.uk
which is $2 to $3 and can be programmed again and again using simply a
PC COM port and two resistors. The software free from the PICAXE
site.

I have code samples for more complex PICAXE devices at
http://www.phanderson.com/picaxe/picaxe.html

Barring using a processor, I think this would be one difficult
problem. With the processor it appears it can be done with a single
8-pin PICAXE.

73 de KZ3K

Peter H Anderson April 24th 04 02:30 AM

(zerobeat) wrote in message . com...
Anyone know of an easy to build ider? I know a basic stamp can be
used, but I don't have the programming abilities. The QST ones I've
seen all use outdated components and are complex. I'm building a
small broacast band beacon (low end, around 530 khz) Thanks, 73,
Mike.


Don't sell yourself too short on the programming end.

You might sneak a peak at

http://www.picaxe.orcon.net.nz/

He has code for a PICAXE-08 for a 35 word per minute CW IDer.

He is using a simple and cheap controller from http://www.picaxe.co.uk
which is $2 to $3 and can be programmed again and again using simply a
PC COM port and two resistors. The software free from the PICAXE
site.

I have code samples for more complex PICAXE devices at
http://www.phanderson.com/picaxe/picaxe.html

Barring using a processor, I think this would be one difficult
problem. With the processor it appears it can be done with a single
8-pin PICAXE.

73 de KZ3K


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