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Old April 25th 04, 02:28 AM
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!

thanks g0zen..


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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount

components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!

thanks g0zen..


If you're careful and have the luxury of a little practice to build
technique, you can use a heat gun (hot air) to reflow solder SMT parts, but
it takes solder paste rather than wire solder (which requires some care in
handling and storage), and it does take practice to get the feel for your
particular heat gun and develop the technique to get the best results.

Another technique is the "toaster oven method" ... search the Yahoo groups
for "ez-bake" for a message thread with a wealth of information.

73,
Carl - wk3c

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Old April 25th 04, 02:45 PM
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount
components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!

thanks g0zen..


Here is a link for the "Ez-bake" approach to soldering.

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encod...6/oven_art.htm

gb


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interesting????!!

will investigate more..

question..how do you put 100 sm parts on board and get it to oven???does the
water based solder act as glue till it melts??

simon
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"zindazenda" wrote in message
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount
components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!

thanks g0zen..


Here is a link for the "Ez-bake" approach to soldering.

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encod...6/oven_art.htm

gb




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interesting????!!

will investigate more..

question..how do you put 100 sm parts on board and get it to oven???does the
water based solder act as glue till it melts??

simon
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"zindazenda" wrote in message
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount
components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!

thanks g0zen..


Here is a link for the "Ez-bake" approach to soldering.

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encod...6/oven_art.htm

gb






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"zindazenda" wrote in message
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount
components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!


Here is a link for the "Ez-bake" approach to soldering.

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encod...6/oven_art.htm


That looks like a good way to go, it would sure beat trying to solder
individual leads, but... it looks like the minimum order quantity is 10 tubes
of solder, for $120 or so. (And these are the small 35g tubes. Digikey's are
more like $800 for the minimum qty of 500g tubes.)

Anyone know a source for small quantity (1-3 tubes) purchases?

- 73 Bob W7OV


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"zindazenda" wrote in message
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount
components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!


Here is a link for the "Ez-bake" approach to soldering.

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encod...6/oven_art.htm


That looks like a good way to go, it would sure beat trying to solder
individual leads, but... it looks like the minimum order quantity is 10
tubes
of solder, for $120 or so. (And these are the small 35g tubes. Digikey's
are
more like $800 for the minimum qty of 500g tubes.)

Anyone know a source for small quantity (1-3 tubes) purchases?

- 73 Bob W7OV


Call Wassco in California .. they will be my choice next month.

Future/Active use to have small supplies in the refrigerator at the Chicago
store --
unfortunately all USA stores closed in 2003.
Last day for Chicago store was Feb. 1, 2003 (Columbia reentry accident)

gb


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"G.Beat" wrote in message
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"zindazenda" wrote in message
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount
components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!


Here is a link for the "Ez-bake" approach to soldering.

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encod...6/oven_art.htm


That looks like a good way to go, it would sure beat trying to solder
individual leads, but... it looks like the minimum order quantity is 10
tubes
of solder, for $120 or so. (And these are the small 35g tubes. Digikey's
are
more like $800 for the minimum qty of 500g tubes.)

Anyone know a source for small quantity (1-3 tubes) purchases?

- 73 Bob W7OV


Call Wassco in California .. they will be my choice next month.

Future/Active use to have small supplies in the refrigerator at the Chicago
store --
unfortunately all USA stores closed in 2003.
Last day for Chicago store was Feb. 1, 2003 (Columbia reentry accident)

gb


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"zindazenda" wrote in message
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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount
components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!


Here is a link for the "Ez-bake" approach to soldering.

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encod...6/oven_art.htm


That looks like a good way to go, it would sure beat trying to solder
individual leads, but... it looks like the minimum order quantity is 10 tubes
of solder, for $120 or so. (And these are the small 35g tubes. Digikey's are
more like $800 for the minimum qty of 500g tubes.)

Anyone know a source for small quantity (1-3 tubes) purchases?

- 73 Bob W7OV


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can anyone recommend at diy way of flow soldering surface mount

components??
i ask as making somr boards up that are totally sm, and well i am going
blind trying to solder them using iron!!

thanks g0zen..


If you're careful and have the luxury of a little practice to build
technique, you can use a heat gun (hot air) to reflow solder SMT parts, but
it takes solder paste rather than wire solder (which requires some care in
handling and storage), and it does take practice to get the feel for your
particular heat gun and develop the technique to get the best results.

Another technique is the "toaster oven method" ... search the Yahoo groups
for "ez-bake" for a message thread with a wealth of information.

73,
Carl - wk3c



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