LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #11   Report Post  
Old May 2nd 04, 05:35 PM
John Fields
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Sun, 02 May 2004 09:04:33 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Sun, 02 May 2004 14:09:44 +0100, Paul Burridge
wrote:

On Sat, 1 May 2004 15:30:18 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:

The generators are more of a voltage source. They will deliver their rated
output when loaded to the proper impedance. Load it with 50 ohms and see if
it gives the rated output. If not try 70 ohms, or another value. One of
the reasons for using a 6 db pad is that it helps isolate the impedance of
the generator and receiver.


My main sig gen states "output EMF using 6dB pad" next to the socket.
WTF is a "6dB pad"?


---
A 6dB attenuator.


---
Also, less commonly, a device used to match the impedance of a
generator to the impedance of a transmission line or a load, or the
impedance of a transmission line to the impedance of a load.

The impedance of the generator, line, and/or load are assumed to be
purely resistive, and there is always loss associated with the
transformation. Devices which exhibit the least loss are called
"minimum loss pads", and

http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/972

gives a good description of the process involved in designing one.

The reference given to Bruno Weinschel and the ITT handbook (as we
old-timers call it) is particularly good, and if you're interested in
RF (or just about anything else...) and you can buy a copy of it you
should.

BTW, since a pad is usually rated in terms of the power it's supposed
to lose between its input and its output, the reference to "output
EMF" on your generator may be what it supposed to be with a 3dB pad on
its output.

Easy way to find out would be to build a 3dB and a 6dB pad to find
out. For a 50 ohm tee pad, here are the resistor values you'll need
for -3dB:

0dBIN--[8.55]-+-[8.55]---3dBOUT
|
[141.93]
|
GND-----------+-----------GND


and for -6dB:

0dBIN--[16.61]-+-[16.61]---3dBOUT
|
[66.93]
|
GND------------+-----------GND

The input goes directly to your generator, (assuming its output
impedance is 50+j0 ohms) a 50 ohm resistor gets connected across the
output of the pad, and you'll measure the voltage across the 50 ohm
resistor.

Use non-inductive resistors (carbon comp if you can get them) and keep
the leads short. That is, ********KEEP THE LEADS SHORT*********.

--
John Fields
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tx Source Impedance & Load Reflections Richard Fry Antenna 8 May 28th 04 06:29 PM
Tuna Tin (II) output impedance Gary Morton Homebrew 42 January 6th 04 10:31 PM
Tuna Tin (II) output impedance Gary Morton Homebrew 0 January 3rd 04 12:38 AM
74HC series RF output impedance Joe McElvenney Homebrew 0 October 12th 03 03:23 PM
Reflection Coefficient Smoke Clears a Bit Dr. Slick Antenna 126 September 10th 03 04:26 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:49 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017