wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.equipment gareth wrote:
"highlandham" wrote in message
...

In ham radio , for most licensees ,the prime focus is on operating

Then they are indistinguishable from CBers


That is a fact and IMHO there is no reason to keep moaning about it.

There is every reason to speak out against the dumbing down of a proud
technical pursuit

I take it obtaining an amateur radio license is your only notable
accomplishment in life which would explain why you are such a self
rightous ass hole.


He also claims to have a degree, but it's from some backwater, regional
university so has essentially nil value.

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STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

On 10/01/2016 22:19, Brian Reay wrote:

Especially if, having qualified, and supposedly spent years building
kit etc., you don't know the basics.

I know what you mean. 40 years on and some planks can't even get the
basics of CW.



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Extend ****s law - make 'em wear a cheat sheet 24/7

On 10/01/2016 23:13, Fred Roberts wrote:
On 10/01/2016 22:19, Brian Reay wrote:

Especially if, having qualified, and supposedly spent years building
kit etc., you don't know the basics.

I know what you mean. 40 years on and some planks can't even get the
basics of CW.

I wonder why manufacturers don't make rigs without CW, that would be far
less embarrassing for the code-less. Oh! Wait! They do.....they are
known as handie-talkies, and the no-coders obsess about programming
them(must lock it to the 2m band!), software, programming cables, and
which CTCSS each repeater uses.

Did you see that one new Full complained that activity on his local
repeaters has fallen off since he was licensed? Utterly coincidental, of
course. He sounded like the sort of person who gets stuck in a traffic
jam with no-one returning his calls.


--
Spike

"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"

- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet

On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 23:12:38 -0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote:

gareth wrote:
... For those of us who became interested at the time of the
transition from thermionic devices to semiconductors, that
in 1965 a household might have less than 35 active devices
in total (25 in the colour TV, 7 in the transistor radio) and now we
have countless millions mostly in computerisation of one sort
or another.

Is it, I wonder the degree of integration in off-the-shelf
electronics that is the prime cause of the lack of technical
acumen and interest in home construction to be found
these days, especially in the under-educated NuHams
who cannot even tell one end of a resistor from the other?




Coming from someone who was afraid to attempt to use a basic amateur
transceiver due to a few missing pages, your comment is the height of
hypocrisy.


After all, many of your vapourware projects tend to be rather biased
towards older, simplistic, equipment- including things which are not even
active and were more typically perhaps 'novelties' over a century ago. The
type of thing many of us experimented with as youngsters but have since
progressed beyond. What was that analogy about amateur radio being a vast
pool to explore- not much point if you keep sitting on the side with your
toes in the shallow end talking about getting in- especially if you've been
doing that for 45+ years.


Nowt wrong with vintage radio Brian.

Why do you belittle those with an interest in it? I note that you
don't abuse your chum for his interest in vintage computing.

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 09:23:04 -0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote:

Rambo wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 23:12:38 -0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote:

gareth wrote:
... For those of us who became interested at the time of the
transition from thermionic devices to semiconductors, that
in 1965 a household might have less than 35 active devices
in total (25 in the colour TV, 7 in the transistor radio) and now we
have countless millions mostly in computerisation of one sort
or another.

Is it, I wonder the degree of integration in off-the-shelf
electronics that is the prime cause of the lack of technical
acumen and interest in home construction to be found
these days, especially in the under-educated NuHams
who cannot even tell one end of a resistor from the other?




Coming from someone who was afraid to attempt to use a basic amateur
transceiver due to a few missing pages, your comment is the height of
hypocrisy.


After all, many of your vapourware projects tend to be rather biased
towards older, simplistic, equipment- including things which are not even
active and were more typically perhaps 'novelties' over a century ago. The
type of thing many of us experimented with as youngsters but have since
progressed beyond. What was that analogy about amateur radio being a vast
pool to explore- not much point if you keep sitting on the side with your
toes in the shallow end talking about getting in- especially if you've been
doing that for 45+ years.


Nowt wrong with vintage radio Brian.

Why do you belittle those with an interest in it? I note that you
don't abuse your chum for his interest in vintage computing.


I wasn't referring to vintage radio. You lack of technical knowledge has
let you down, as usual.


Read your own post again.