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Old June 24th 04, 03:30 PM
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Are old high voltage components from microwave ovens useful, or should
I chuck them out in the trash?

I have several transformers that look like they are good for quite a
few watts of power, some of the high voltage diodes and several
blowers. I've been saving them.

Can they be used for power supplies for rf transmitters? Are the
blowers any good for cooling large tubes in transmitters?

Thanks,

Al


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Some years ago, there was an article in one of the ham mags about converting
microwave ovens into high power microwave ham transmitters. It might give
some helpful background info. Unfortunately I can't remember the timeframe
or which mag ran it. Maybe someone else in the group can remember???

Joe
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"Albert" wrote in message
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Are old high voltage components from microwave ovens useful, or should
I chuck them out in the trash?

I have several transformers that look like they are good for quite a
few watts of power, some of the high voltage diodes and several
blowers. I've been saving them.

Can they be used for power supplies for rf transmitters? Are the
blowers any good for cooling large tubes in transmitters?

Thanks,

Al


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The transformer is good for 1500 to 2500 VRMS at 0.5 A or more.

More info at:

http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/gadget.htm#gadmot

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"W3JDR" writes:

Some years ago, there was an article in one of the ham mags about converting
microwave ovens into high power microwave ham transmitters. It might give
some helpful background info. Unfortunately I can't remember the timeframe
or which mag ran it. Maybe someone else in the group can remember???

Joe
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"Albert" wrote in message
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Are old high voltage components from microwave ovens useful, or should
I chuck them out in the trash?

I have several transformers that look like they are good for quite a
few watts of power, some of the high voltage diodes and several
blowers. I've been saving them.

Can they be used for power supplies for rf transmitters? Are the
blowers any good for cooling large tubes in transmitters?

Thanks,

Al

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Old June 24th 04, 09:04 PM
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"Sam Goldwasser" wrote in message
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The transformer is good for 1500 to 2500 VRMS at 0.5 A or more.


I would check to see if these transformers are continuously rated, I seem to
recall they are rated for intermittent use only.

Theo


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Old June 24th 04, 10:17 PM
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Theo wrote:
"Sam Goldwasser" wrote in message
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The transformer is good for 1500 to 2500 VRMS at 0.5 A or more.



I would check to see if these transformers are continuously rated, I seem to
recall they are rated for intermittent use only.

Theo



They are also built to have high leakage inductance, for current
limiting when you put your steel coffee cup in there. This is done by
having physically separate windings and a laminated-steel wedge in the
window in the core. You have to knock that wedge out.

There was an article in QST or QEX about using microwave parts to build
power supplies for linears. Very interesting. Very scary, considering
that the author also used old refrigerator drawers as the case...

I saved the pieces from my old microwave in case I ever want to build
something that puts out more than 5W.

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Old June 25th 04, 11:52 PM
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Hi Tim,

There was an article in QST or QEX about using microwave parts to
build power supplies for linears. Very interesting. Very scary,
considering that the author also used old refrigerator drawers as the
case...


Just curious: Do people still build linears with tubes and HV supplies
or is it much cheaper now to use transistors? Mine were all tubes but
that was about 20 some years ago when FETs and BJT were just way out
there in terms of cost.

Regards, Joerg

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"Theo" writes:

"Sam Goldwasser" wrote in message
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The transformer is good for 1500 to 2500 VRMS at 0.5 A or more.


I would check to see if these transformers are continuously rated, I seem to
recall they are rated for intermittent use only.


Well, microwave ovens can run for hours at full power so I guess that
rates continuoue? It is true they may NOT be continuous rated at
low or no load due to core saturation.

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The transformer is good for 1500 to 2500 VRMS at 0.5 A or more.
I would check to see if these transformers are continuously rated,
I seem to recall they are rated for intermittent use only.


Several years ago, while driving from Kansas City to Manhattan, KS (about
130 miles) I had an interesting QSO most of the way with someone who said
his amplifier was powered by two microwave-oven transformers (two are
used because the high-voltage winding is usually connected to "ground"
internally).

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"Albert" wrote in message
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Are old high voltage components from microwave ovens useful, or should
I chuck them out in the trash?

I have several transformers that look like they are good for quite a
few watts of power, some of the high voltage diodes and several
blowers. I've been saving them.

Can they be used for power supplies for rf transmitters? Are the
blowers any good for cooling large tubes in transmitters?

Of course you can use the diodes and the capacitors ;-)
There are some articles on th Internet about converting the transformer for
a spot welder.
A also saw an article on using the magnetron as a PLL like amplifier to put
out 1kw at 13 cm. I can forward the link if you want.

Wim





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Old June 26th 04, 01:18 PM
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Yes, please publish the link Wm, and thanks.


On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:42:38 +0100, "Wim Ton"
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"Albert" wrote in message
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Are old high voltage components from microwave ovens useful, or should
I chuck them out in the trash?

I have several transformers that look like they are good for quite a
few watts of power, some of the high voltage diodes and several
blowers. I've been saving them.

Can they be used for power supplies for rf transmitters? Are the
blowers any good for cooling large tubes in transmitters?

Of course you can use the diodes and the capacitors ;-)
There are some articles on th Internet about converting the transformer for
a spot welder.
A also saw an article on using the magnetron as a PLL like amplifier to put
out 1kw at 13 cm. I can forward the link if you want.

Wim







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