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hamaddict July 9th 04 11:01 PM

HP crystal Osc
 
What possible use does a HP 10811-6011 Crystal Oscillator have in a
homebrew project. I came across one of these but don'y really know
what to do with it. I hate to toss it out.



Da Shadow July 9th 04 11:21 PM

Makes a good house standard to calibrate your receivers and test equipment.

Try google search engine to see how others use it

Type in HP 10811

--
Lamont Cranston

The Shadow Knows
"hamaddict" wrote in message
...
What possible use does a HP 10811-6011 Crystal Oscillator have in a
homebrew project. I came across one of these but don'y really know
what to do with it. I hate to toss it out.





John Miles July 10th 04 12:18 AM

In article ,
says...
What possible use does a HP 10811-6011 Crystal Oscillator have in a
homebrew project. I came across one of these but don'y really know
what to do with it. I hate to toss it out.




These oscillators are much more stable than TCXOs used in ham equipment,
but they are not always directly comparable. A TCXO will be stable from
the moment it's powered on, while an OCXO like the 10811 will be very
far off frequency until it warms up, which may take 2-3 minutes.

Most ham applications do not need the extra stability offered by an
OCXO. Test equipment is the primary application for these devices.

If you toss it out, feel free toss it this way. :)

-- jm

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Rick Karlquist N6RK July 10th 04 05:47 AM

Some the guys around here use them on 10 GHz SSB.
You really need that kind of stability for that mode.
A TCXO is 100X worse. Another popular use is as
a "flywheel" with GPS, to get a very accurate frequency
source. Search on "HP Z3801" for info.

(I worked at the HP division that made these for 19 years.)

Rick N6RK


"hamaddict" wrote in message
...
What possible use does a HP 10811-6011 Crystal Oscillator have in a
homebrew project. I came across one of these but don'y really know
what to do with it. I hate to toss it out.





John Walton July 10th 04 03:46 PM

One of the great things which the telecom bust did was to make the equipment
you designed at HP available to us experimenters -- I use my HP3586C
Receiver's ovenized oscillator to drive my HP5334 frequency counter and
HP3336B Synthesizer. I never dreamed I could have afforded this type of
equipment until EBay made it possible.

"Rick Karlquist N6RK" wrote in message
news:jxKHc.51075$a24.19212@attbi_s03...
Some the guys around here use them on 10 GHz SSB.
You really need that kind of stability for that mode.
A TCXO is 100X worse. Another popular use is as
a "flywheel" with GPS, to get a very accurate frequency
source. Search on "HP Z3801" for info.

(I worked at the HP division that made these for 19 years.)

Rick N6RK


"hamaddict" wrote in message
...
What possible use does a HP 10811-6011 Crystal Oscillator have in a
homebrew project. I came across one of these but don'y really know
what to do with it. I hate to toss it out.







Rick Karlquist N6RK July 10th 04 08:48 PM

I was the project manager of the 5334B frequency counter.
It had an option to have a 10811 timebase. The standard
timebase, which I inherited from the 5334A design was
embarassingly bad, barely able to do 10 PPM. Unfortunately,
you cannot retrofit a 10811 to a 5334, because you need an
extra PC board. This board is required to be able to put
the 10811 on its side, because there isn't enough height for
it.

The gray market in used HP/Agilent test equipment is
really hurting Agilent in some products. My old division no
longer exists. I now work at Agilent Labs.

Rick N6RK

project manager for the
"John Walton" wrote in message
...
One of the great things which the telecom bust did was to make the

equipment
you designed at HP available to us experimenters -- I use my HP3586C
Receiver's ovenized oscillator to drive my HP5334 frequency counter




John Miles July 10th 04 09:03 PM

In article rKXHc.53423$MB3.51741@attbi_s04,
says...
I was the project manager of the 5334B frequency counter.
It had an option to have a 10811 timebase. The standard
timebase, which I inherited from the 5334A design was
embarassingly bad, barely able to do 10 PPM. Unfortunately,
you cannot retrofit a 10811 to a 5334, because you need an
extra PC board. This board is required to be able to put
the 10811 on its side, because there isn't enough height for
it.


Interesting. Could you shed some light on the timebase used in the
8566B and related analyzers circa 1984? The one I'm looking at doesn't
appear to be the standard 10544 or 10811 unit. I've never run across
one of these before in any other HP instruments. Is it just a
repackaged 10811?

-- jm

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Note: My E-mail address has been altered to avoid spam
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hamaddict July 10th 04 10:23 PM

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:48:39 GMT, "Rick Karlquist N6RK"
wrote:

I was the project manager of the 5334B frequency counter.
It had an option to have a 10811 timebase. The standard
timebase, which I inherited from the 5334A design was
embarassingly bad, barely able to do 10 PPM. Unfortunately,
you cannot retrofit a 10811 to a 5334, because you need an
extra PC board. This board is required to be able to put
the 10811 on its side, because there isn't enough height for
it.

The gray market in used HP/Agilent test equipment is
really hurting Agilent in some products. My old division no
longer exists. I now work at Agilent Labs.

Rick N6RK

project manager for the
"John Walton" wrote in message
...
One of the great things which the telecom bust did was to make the

equipment
you designed at HP available to us experimenters -- I use my HP3586C
Receiver's ovenized oscillator to drive my HP5334 frequency counter



Rick,

The 10811 that I have has a decal on it that reads "upgraded to series
3010". Do you know what that means?

thanks,
Lefty

Roger Gt July 10th 04 11:41 PM


"Rick Karlquist N6RK" wrote in
message news:rKXHc.53423$MB3.51741@attbi_s04...
snip
:
: The gray market in used HP/Agilent test equipment is
: really hurting Agilent in some products. My old division no
: longer exists. I now work at Agilent Labs.
: Rick N6RK


Used equipment is NOT a "gray" market. Anyone who buys an
expensive piece of equipment is entitled to sell when they no
longer have a use for it.




Rick Karlquist N6RK July 11th 04 01:37 AM

The various versions of 10811 have part numbers
of the form 10811-6XXXX. There are a few dozen
varieties. I've never heard of "series 3010" in reference
to 10811's.

Rick N6RK

"hamaddict" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:48:39 GMT, "Rick Karlquist N6RK"
wrote:

I was the project manager of the 5334B frequency counter.
It had an option to have a 10811 timebase. The standard
timebase, which I inherited from the 5334A design was
embarassingly bad, barely able to do 10 PPM. Unfortunately,
you cannot retrofit a 10811 to a 5334, because you need an
extra PC board. This board is required to be able to put
the 10811 on its side, because there isn't enough height for
it.

The gray market in used HP/Agilent test equipment is
really hurting Agilent in some products. My old division no
longer exists. I now work at Agilent Labs.

Rick N6RK

project manager for the
"John Walton" wrote in message
...
One of the great things which the telecom bust did was to make the

equipment
you designed at HP available to us experimenters -- I use my HP3586C
Receiver's ovenized oscillator to drive my HP5334 frequency counter



Rick,

The 10811 that I have has a decal on it that reads "upgraded to series
3010". Do you know what that means?

thanks,
Lefty





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