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Tony September 3rd 04 04:10 AM

Modify a tuner to receive outer frequencies
 
do exist a simple method for modify a home radio tuner to get FM and AM
frequencies out of the range?
Can I receive station up and below the limits?



Gregg September 3rd 04 06:11 AM

Behold, Tony signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

do exist a simple method for modify a home radio tuner to get FM and AM
frequencies out of the range?


Yes, but it's not simple. Your tracking will be messed up and alignment
with an oscilloscope needed.

--
Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

Tony September 3rd 04 06:58 AM

And does exist a little doc to do that?

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"Gregg" ha scritto nel messaggio
news:x2TZc.87548$X12.3296@edtnps84...
Behold, Tony signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

do exist a simple method for modify a home radio tuner to get FM and AM
frequencies out of the range?


Yes, but it's not simple. Your tracking will be messed up and alignment
with an oscilloscope needed.

--
Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca




Peter Parker September 3rd 04 11:17 AM


"Gregg" wrote in message
news:x2TZc.87548$X12.3296@edtnps84...
Behold, Tony signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

do exist a simple method for modify a home radio tuner to get FM and AM
frequencies out of the range?


Yes, but it's not simple.


Disagree.

Your tracking will be messed up


Agree. Sensitivity will suffer at one end of the dial.

and alignment with an oscilloscope needed.


Disagree. Just your ears will do.

Assuming we're talking the old style dial tuners, and not digitally tuned
receivers, it's possible to get them to recieve up to 1.8 or 1.9 MHz. You
can sometimes hear AM b/cast stations above 1.6 MHz and amateur radio 160m
activity (some of which is AM) above 1.8 MHz.

Details at http//www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/160.htm

At one time I fiddled with an FM clock radio and could hear ambulance or
police around 80 MHz. The bandwidth was dreadful, signals blotted each other
out and you had to crank up the vol control due to the low deviations used
(relative to b/cast WB FM).

73, Peter VK3YE



Tony September 3rd 04 12:03 PM


Details at http//www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/160.htm

broken



Martin September 3rd 04 01:10 PM

"Peter Parker" wrote in message
...

"Gregg" wrote in message
news:x2TZc.87548$X12.3296@edtnps84...
Behold, Tony signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

do exist a simple method for modify a home radio tuner to get FM and

AM
frequencies out of the range?


Yes, but it's not simple.


Disagree.

Your tracking will be messed up


Agree. Sensitivity will suffer at one end of the dial.

and alignment with an oscilloscope needed.


Disagree. Just your ears will do.

Assuming we're talking the old style dial tuners, and not digitally tuned
receivers, it's possible to get them to recieve up to 1.8 or 1.9 MHz. You
can sometimes hear AM b/cast stations above 1.6 MHz and amateur radio 160m
activity (some of which is AM) above 1.8 MHz.

Details at http//www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/160.htm

At one time I fiddled with an FM clock radio and could hear ambulance or
police around 80 MHz. The bandwidth was dreadful, signals blotted each

other
out and you had to crank up the vol control due to the low deviations used
(relative to b/cast WB FM).


Ahh - the good old days!!! I remember putting 10pF ceramic caps across the
FM side of the tuning cap in an old AM/FM clock radio, then listening to the
local police on 83-84 MHz. Worked well if you turned up the volume and, as
you say, had some separation between the freq's you wanted to listen to.


Cheers

Martin, VK2UMJ





Amy dmith September 3rd 04 08:52 PM

You can BUY tuners that cover other bands really cheap. Just like TV tuners
but cover other bands too. Sharp makes them and others. about $30 a pop.


"Martin" vk2umjATyahooDOTcomDOTau wrote in message
...
"Peter Parker" wrote in message
...

"Gregg" wrote in message
news:x2TZc.87548$X12.3296@edtnps84...
Behold, Tony signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

do exist a simple method for modify a home radio tuner to get FM and

AM
frequencies out of the range?

Yes, but it's not simple.


Disagree.

Your tracking will be messed up


Agree. Sensitivity will suffer at one end of the dial.

and alignment with an oscilloscope needed.


Disagree. Just your ears will do.

Assuming we're talking the old style dial tuners, and not digitally

tuned
receivers, it's possible to get them to recieve up to 1.8 or 1.9 MHz.

You
can sometimes hear AM b/cast stations above 1.6 MHz and amateur radio

160m
activity (some of which is AM) above 1.8 MHz.

Details at http//www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/160.htm

At one time I fiddled with an FM clock radio and could hear ambulance or
police around 80 MHz. The bandwidth was dreadful, signals blotted each

other
out and you had to crank up the vol control due to the low deviations

used
(relative to b/cast WB FM).


Ahh - the good old days!!! I remember putting 10pF ceramic caps across

the
FM side of the tuning cap in an old AM/FM clock radio, then listening to

the
local police on 83-84 MHz. Worked well if you turned up the volume and,

as
you say, had some separation between the freq's you wanted to listen to.


Cheers

Martin, VK2UMJ







Steve Nosko September 3rd 04 09:10 PM

My first "short wave" receiver was an AM radio (550-1600 kHz). An article in
pop electronics or somewhere gave instructions for making two coils to put
in parallel with the existing ones (RF & OSC) to raise the frequency up to,
I think, the 80 meter range, as I recall. Of course, AM was big then.

--
Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's.

"Amy dmith" wrote in message
...
You can BUY tuners that cover other bands really cheap. Just like TV

tuners
but cover other bands too. Sharp makes them and others. about $30 a pop.


"Martin" vk2umjATyahooDOTcomDOTau wrote in message
...
"Peter Parker" wrote in message
...

"Gregg" wrote in message
news:x2TZc.87548$X12.3296@edtnps84...
Behold, Tony signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

do exist a simple method for modify a home radio tuner to get FM

and
AM
frequencies out of the range?

Yes, but it's not simple.

Disagree.

Your tracking will be messed up

Agree. Sensitivity will suffer at one end of the dial.

and alignment with an oscilloscope needed.

Disagree. Just your ears will do.

Assuming we're talking the old style dial tuners, and not digitally

tuned
receivers, it's possible to get them to recieve up to 1.8 or 1.9 MHz.

You
can sometimes hear AM b/cast stations above 1.6 MHz and amateur radio

160m
activity (some of which is AM) above 1.8 MHz.

Details at http//www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/160.htm

At one time I fiddled with an FM clock radio and could hear ambulance

or
police around 80 MHz. The bandwidth was dreadful, signals blotted each

other
out and you had to crank up the vol control due to the low deviations

used
(relative to b/cast WB FM).


Ahh - the good old days!!! I remember putting 10pF ceramic caps across

the
FM side of the tuning cap in an old AM/FM clock radio, then listening to

the
local police on 83-84 MHz. Worked well if you turned up the volume and,

as
you say, had some separation between the freq's you wanted to listen to.


Cheers

Martin, VK2UMJ









Peter Parker September 3rd 04 10:30 PM


"Tony" wrote in message
...

Details at http//www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/160.htm

broken


Try http://www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/160.htm !



Padraigh ProAmerica September 4th 04 10:45 PM

Several years ago I was driving, and stopped for the night at a Howard
Johnson's. The only room they had available had no TV, so I brought i an
AM-FM portable I had in the car.

The radio had spent some time in the sun, and was pretty well 'cooked',
you might say.

The FM section didn't work at all; the AM section picked up SWBC quite
well; I spent the evening listening between VOA and BBC.

I do NOT reccomend this method! :-)

"An armed society is a polite society"

Robert A. Heinlein



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