......is that we club together and conceive of a design
for an HF transceiver that could form the basis of the
station of any budding Radio Ham.

We wouldn't need any facilities other than were present in,
say, the KW2000 of 35 years ago (apart from greater than
200 kHz coverage on each band!)

None of the CBer's facilities such as scanners, memories,
CAT interfaces, CTCSS and the like are necessary.

I suggest that we consider a DSP approach for all the
baseband mod and demod, and then phasing techniques
for translating into the various bands.

A power output of 5W will be more than sufficient for
any self-respecting _REAL_ Radio Hams - it is only
CBers and CBers-Masquerading-As-Radio-Hams who
need to work with BBC levels of signal strength.

Such a project could be what we need to capture the
interest of newcomers who would not then be sidetracked
into the CB-like purchasing of brand-new rigs from the
shelves of emporia, and, having, constructed their own
rigs, would feel competent to maintain those rigs, unlike
those who send them back to the emporia and thus show
themselves as closet CBers.

We _COULD_ take a lead in this NG!

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message .....

is that we club together and conceive of a design snip

We wouldn't need any facilities other than were present in,
say, the KW2000 of 35 years ago snip

None of the CBer's facilities such as scanners, memories,
CAT interfaces, CTCSS and the like are necessary snip

I suggest that we consider a DSP approach for all the
baseband mod and demod, and then phasing techniques
for translating into the various bands.snip

Adress the contradictions and I may consider this as a sensible
suggestion....

"mexico_zero" wrote in message
...

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message .....

is that we club together and conceive of a design snip

We wouldn't need any facilities other than were present in,
say, the KW2000 of 35 years ago snip

None of the CBer's facilities such as scanners, memories,
CAT interfaces, CTCSS and the like are necessary snip

I suggest that we consider a DSP approach for all the
baseband mod and demod, and then phasing techniques
for translating into the various bands.snip

Adress the contradictions and I may consider this as a sensible
suggestion....


Indeed, not a bad idea at all.

However, what is to be gained by re-inventing a (in radio terms) stone age
design?

Thinks like computer control provide added challenge and attraction to the
idea, why dismiss them? They could always be add-ons. DSP. Oh dear. I
assume this phasing technique relies on Big K.


Or maybe he just meant mixing, an existing technique not needing DSP.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

M3OSN continues to exhibit a negative and destructive
maladjusted personality and demonstrates well why
anybody who holds, or who has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme will never make it into
the ranks of _REAL_ Radio Hams.

What is to be gained by designing a radio that is, or should
be, reproducible with ease by newcomers? Nothing if you're
a defeatist SFB Jonah such as Mr.Reay presents below, but everything if
you have the makings of being a _REAL_ Radio Ham!

Stone-age design? What a silly-billy is Mr.Reay! No doubt
by that childish sneer he reveals himself to be one of the
CB types who buys his radios off-the-shelf! What a bad
example he presents to any prospective newcomers!

Once again Mr.Reay demonstrates why he will always be
no more than an SFB CBer and never a _REAL_ Radio Ham!
(Newcomers! Do you wish to be a sneering failure such as
Mr.Reay presents, or do you wish to join the Radio Hams?)

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
"mexico_zero" wrote in message
...
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message .....
is that we club together and conceive of a design snip
We wouldn't need any facilities other than were present in,
say, the KW2000 of 35 years ago snip
None of the CBer's facilities such as scanners, memories,
CAT interfaces, CTCSS and the like are necessary snip
I suggest that we consider a DSP approach for all the
baseband mod and demod, and then phasing techniques
for translating into the various bands.snip
Adress the contradictions and I may consider this as a sensible
suggestion....
Indeed, not a bad idea at all.
However, what is to be gained by re-inventing a (in radio terms) stone age
design?
Thinks like computer control provide added challenge and attraction to the
idea, why dismiss them? They could always be add-ons. DSP. Oh dear. I
assume this phasing technique relies on Big K.
Or maybe he just meant mixing, an existing technique not needing DSP.

Brian Reay (spamstopper) wrote:

However, what is to be gained by re-inventing a (in radio terms)
stone age
design?

Beanie can just copy something out of SPRAT and claim it as being new.
There's nothing innovative in yet another DC RX on 40m ;-)
Regards,

Mr Wibble

I wonder why Mr.Reay pours scorn on a proposal
which perhaps he himself ought to have come up
with bearing in mind his regular _BOASTING_ about how
important he perceives himself to be in the training
of newcomers?

Is it because he is tetchy (to use his own phrase) that he
didn't think of the idea first?

Perhaps, bearing in mind his recent boasts about share dealings,
he has shares in Waters And Stanton?

Either way, his rather silly and infantile sneering below does seem
to suggest that he is irrelevant to the future of _REAL_ Ham Radio;
and of no value to any scheme for beginners.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
"mexico_zero" wrote in message
...
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message .....
is that we club together and conceive of a design snip
We wouldn't need any facilities other than were present in,
say, the KW2000 of 35 years ago snip
None of the CBer's facilities such as scanners, memories,
CAT interfaces, CTCSS and the like are necessary snip
I suggest that we consider a DSP approach for all the
baseband mod and demod, and then phasing techniques
for translating into the various bands.snip
Indeed, not a bad idea at all.
However, what is to be gained by re-inventing a (in radio terms) stone age
design?
Thinks like computer control provide added challenge and attraction to the
idea, why dismiss them? They could always be add-ons. DSP. Oh dear. I
assume this phasing technique relies on Big K.
Or maybe he just meant mixing, an existing technique not needing DSP.

"Airy R.Bean" wrote in message
...
I wonder why Mr.Reay pours scorn on a proposal
which perhaps he himself ought to have come up
with bearing in mind his regular _BOASTING_ about how
important he perceives himself to be in the training
of newcomers?


Actually, Dr Reay said it was a good idea. He did point out a few flaws in
your concept. As we have all done in the past.

You always react like this Gareth when one of your great ideas proves to be
less than great. At least this failure isn't going to cost you your job.

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:04:59 -0000, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

.....is that we club together and conceive of a design
for an HF transceiver that could form the basis of the
station of any budding Radio Ham.

Bean apears to be operating in 'Rehabilitation Mode' - old his old
chestnuts are coming out.....:-(
--
from
Aero Spike

"Spike" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:04:59 -0000, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

.....is that we club together and conceive of a design
for an HF transceiver that could form the basis of the
station of any budding Radio Ham.

Bean apears to be operating in 'Rehabilitation Mode' - old his old
chestnuts are coming out.....:-(

I've little doubt that is his ploy. However, I lean toward being of an
overly forgiving nature and, if he can behave, maybe some good will come of
it and he will learn something.

At worst we can go back though Google and refer him to previous answers.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:37:38 -0000, "Brian Reay"
wrote:


"Spike" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:04:59 -0000, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

.....is that we club together and conceive of a design
for an HF transceiver that could form the basis of the
station of any budding Radio Ham.

Bean apears to be operating in 'Rehabilitation Mode' - all his old
chestnuts are coming out.....:-(

I've little doubt that is his ploy. However, I lean toward being of an
overly forgiving nature and, if he can behave, maybe some good will come of
it and he will learn something.

Hmm...perhaps it's just another turn of the ever-repeating cycle?

At worst we can go back though Google and refer him to previous answers.

Afraid not - he doesn't follow urls. I don't know if this is from
unfamiliarity with usenet, or that he can't read a reference and
understand which parts were relevant to the discussion. And anyway, if
you start quoting him back at himself, he killfiles you. Allegedly.
--
from
Aero Spike