Brian Reay wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Is that 10 years continous use? If so, most youngsters will be death by the
time they are 18, if the 'music' hasn't 'got them by 15 ;-)

I assume you mean deaf? Few people have used cell phones
for ten years already. Some of those few are starting to
get tumors inside their ears. I have switched over to a
headset for my cellphone activities after having one
for about three years.
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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Brian Reay wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Is that 10 years continous use? If so, most youngsters will be death by
the
time they are 18, if the 'music' hasn't 'got them by 15 ;-)

I assume you mean deaf?

Indeed, thinking of something else as I typed. Its the 'music' ;-)

Few people have used cell phones
for ten years already.

Not sure about that. The mobile phone was an icon of the 'Yuppie' era (along
with the Filofax, BMW, Rolex, etc.) That was mid 1980s.

I'm pretty sure we one of the early 'next generation' phones (digital) in
about 1990.

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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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I assume you mean deaf? Few people have used cell phones
for ten years already.

You in the USA already? ;-)

Already I have used an already mobile phone for well over ten years already.
(not too sure how to punctuate that in the USA vernacular) ;-)
I see no signs of ill health in either myself, or my daughter already. We
both went with Orange about the same time. ( A British mobile phone network)
Now Orange work at about 1.8 Gig? At that time, that was about the highest
frequency phone system that was going. Now we have systems that work at 3
gigabyte? already. Or do they operate at even higher frequencies already?
I'm not to sure already.

Right! I'm off to bed already. ;-)

Dave

Cecil Moore wrote:

The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Which issue was that? I'd like to read the article.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Roy Lewallen wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Which issue was that? I'd like to read the article.

December 2004, page 20: "Cellphones Linked To Brain Tumors"
"No tumors were associated with less than 10 years of
cellphone use." There will be about 50 million people with
10 years of cellphone use in 1907. I won't be one of them.
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Roy Lewallen wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.


Which issue was that? I'd like to read the article.


December 2004, page 20: "Cellphones Linked To Brain Tumors"
"No tumors were associated with less than 10 years of
cellphone use." There will be about 50 million people with
10 years of cellphone use in 1907. I won't be one of them.

Thanks. Here's what the article really said:

"Researchers at the Karolinska Institute of Environmental Medicine, in
Stockholm, Sweden, have found an association between long-term cellphone
use and a rare, benign tumor, causing concern among radiation
specialists and epidemiologists, though they emphasize that the results
haven't been replicated yet. Scientists now eagerly await results from
other studies under way around the world.

Published in the November issue of the journal _Epidemiology_, the
Swedish study, led by Stefan Lönn of the Karolinska Institute, looked at
148 people who had acoustic neuroma and compared them with 604 healthy
people. It found that people who used cellphones for more than 10 years
doubled their risk of developing the tumor, a benign condition affecting
one in 100 000 people. . ."

So when you compacted this into the statement that "cell phone use for
ten years results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss", was it an
emulation of today's journalistic technique, or just the effect of years
spent working with binary circuits?

Looks to me like it said that a single study, yet to be replicated, of a
small group of people indicated that long-term cell phone use caused a
doubling of the risk of a rare benign tumor, raising the odds of getting
one from about 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 50,000.

So when you compacted this into the statement that "cell phone use for
ten years results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss", was it an
emulation of today's journalistic technique, or just the effect of years
spent working with binary circuits?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

What?

;-)

I heard (no pun intended) that the YAAH committee report states that most of
the talk about health being put under risk by mobile phones/mast is totally
bollox.

I have to agree, before anyone spouts off about being sick due to a nearby
mast perhaps the investigators ought to check the contents of moaners fridge
etc first.

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:42:37 GMT, "tox"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4163003.stm


Any views?

No, just an unbiased review of what appears to be all studies done so
far-

http://www.mcw.edu/gcrc/cop/cell-pho...h-FAQ/toc.html

Read thoroughly & make up your own mind .

H.

"tox" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4163003.stm


Any views?


I think common sense dictates caution when you slap something on the side of
your head that heats your brain (Airy excluded) up... There must be health
issues with this....

Unlike heavy mobile phone use it has been proven that increasing
Oxydisation of cell structures causes, cancer, aging and ultimately
death. Doesn't stop anyone breathing though does it? If we al stopped
breathing there would be no cancer, no aging.

Seriously though, as an illustration, say that in 20 years time we find
that the heating effect of RF from mobile phones provides a catalyst
for increased oxydisation in the brain when combined with the
inhilation of plastics vapour from the material used in cellphone keypd
membranes to cause cancer of the nose (it could happen!!). This would
be a totally unforseen risk to our health. What this report says that
is as a precaution to unforseen health risks it is better not to let
childern use mobile phones and audults only when absolutly necessary
and to limit use. This is an example of the "precautionary principle",
specifically used to limit or halt future crisis.

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle
http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000006DE2F.htm
http://www.emfacts.com/papers/newspeak.pdf
http://www.chstm.man.ac.uk/outreach/mobile-phones.htm
http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~kfoster/p...ary_foster.PDF