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DaveM wrote...
"johna@m" wrote ... Should not we expect that the current, even at very small level, to be half rectified by a diode, since the reverse resistance of the diode is supposed te be far greater than the forward resistance? Why can't we found this result in smulation. Is it a flaw in the simulator (Simplorer) or is the theoric behavior of a diode that changes in case of very small input ? There is nothing wrong with the simulator... the problem is with your idea of a diode. The general definition of a diode is a component that conducts normally in one direction, but does not conduct in the other. That definition only applies to a "perfect" diode. The reality of semiconductor diodes is that a 'barrier potential" exists across the junction. In germanium diodes, this is around 0.3 volts; in silicon diodes, it's around 0.6 volts. In order for the diode to conduct, this barrier potential must be exceeded by an externally applied voltage. Until that potential is reached, the diode is said to be reverse biased, and only a very small leakage current flows. When the barrier potential is reached, the junction becomes forward biased and conducts heavily. The small signal voltage that you are trying to simulate may not be enough to reach the barrier potential of the diode junction, thus, no conduction (rectification) in either direction. The simulator is aware of the barrier potential of the diode. If the peak value of your signal voltage is less than the barrier potential, no rectification occurs. If you increase the amplitude of the signal applied to the defined barrier potential of the particular diode in your model, you will see rectification begin. The higher the signal amplitude, the more rectified signal appears on the output. You can make a diode rectify a signal amplitude lower than the barrier potential by applying a forward voltage that is just under the barrier potential, so that the signal doesn't have to overcome the full barrier potential. Fer instance, if you apply a 0.5 volt DC voltage to a silicon diode, it will start to rectify signal levels as low as 0.1 volts. Dave, your considerable effort to explain the nuances of diodes to John is commendable, but your explanation is rather misleading. It's not true that for a diode to conduct, the "barrier potential must be exceeded," and "the junction becomes forward biased and conducts heavily." Instead the diode current has an exponential relationship to the voltage across it, and gradually turns on over many hundreds of millivolts, not abruptly at say 600mV. Here, examine some diode measurements I made a long time ago, http://www.picovolt.com/win/elec/com...de-curves.html For example, these plots show that an ordinary 1n4148 class of silicon signal diode, which conducts about 0.5mA at 600mV, is still working at 250mV, conducting 1uA in my measurements. In fact, this diode was still conducted at 100mV. See http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/1N/1N4148.pdf where Fairchild's datasheet also shows this exponential relationship, albeit drawn with a draftsman's straight line. So, as others have pointed out, diodes can rectify very small signals. They may not be very efficient, but they will work. These plots also show how Schottky diodes (e.g., 1n6263 and 1n5819) are better than ordinary silicon diodes at low voltages, even below 100mV. The 1n6263 may be hard to get, but other parts, like the sd101 or bat17 may not. http://www.vishay.com/docs/85629/85629.pdf There are other diodes that work well at very low voltages, notably some made by Agilent (see an1090), but we won't go into them here. -- Thanks, - Win |