Digikey doth truly rule
 

For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.

"Tim Shoppa" wrote in message
ups.com...
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Have a look at the Farnell and RS websites (UK):

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/home/homepage.jsp

http://rswwww.com

I prefer them to DigiKey.

Leon

Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.

Hi,

I agree entirely about DigiKey. However, when I want to order just a
few parts (rather than dozens at a time), Mouser has a much better price
for small quantities. Also, they will ship via 1st class mail - saving
on shipping costs.

So I use the search on DigiKey, check the price, then search by the
exact part number on Mouser to see if the price is much lower.

--
Luhan Monat (luhanis 'at' yahoo 'dot' com)
"The future is not what it used to be..."
http://members.cox.net/berniekm

That's an interesting perspective, Tim. I find it easier to search Digikey
for passives and Mouser for semiconductors/actives. Jameco has them all
beat for their specialties like wall warts, motors, solenoids, solar stuff,
and tools/solder stations.

That's my triumvirate...they all have stuff they do best, and I really have
no need for other catalogs to cobble up the bench.

For onesie, twosies they all have about the same prices, but when you start
buying in thousands, Mouser has them beat by a mile.

Jim



" Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems.

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording.

Yes. For this, they might benefit from hiring a person with some real
electronics knowledge, who might be able to standardize the terms used
in the database, and thus would have to translate any non-standard
compliant terminology from their vendors into the terms used in the
database. That would make even the semis consistent.



Good day!

--
__________________________________________________ _____________________
Christopher R. Carlen
Principal Laser/Optical Technologist
Sandia National Laboratories CA USA
-- NOTE: Remove "BOGUS" from email address to reply.

Mouser has a much better price
for small quantities. Also, they
will ship via 1st class mail saving
on shipping costs.

Well, Digikey will ship for free if you mail in your order with
payment. Not awfully relevant to me because it's been years since I
ordered by any method except the web.

So I use the search on DigiKey,
check the price, then search by
the exact part number on
Mouser to see if the price is
much lower.

I'd feel guilty doing that, but I cannot fault you for being thrifty
:-)

Tim.

Have a look at the Farnell

Farnell seems to be the same back-end as Newark with a different name
on the front.. (Err, now it's "Newark-in-one", but I've always been
oblivious to name changes.)

Tim.

"Tim Shoppa" wrote in message
oups.com...
Have a look at the Farnell

Farnell seems to be the same back-end as Newark with a different name
on the front.. (Err, now it's "Newark-in-one", but I've always been
oblivious to name changes.)

Farnell took Newark over a few years ago.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller

Farnell took Newark over a few years ago.

OK, that explains it :-).

Newark always had some interesting semiconductor stock from HP (now
Agilent... too many name changes!). Finding what they have in stock is
certainly easier now that I can search on the web, but I'd probably buy
more from them if they improved their web interface so I didn't have to
type in every single part number that may be useful to me just to see
if they carry it.

I just tried Newark/Farnell for some passive searches and indeed
they've recently updated their search interface so that it's a lot like
Digikey's.

Tim.

Have a look at the Farnell and RS websites (UK):

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/home/homepage.jsp

http://rswwww.com
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A bit cumbersome for hams based in the uS

"Tim Shoppa" wrote in message
oups.com...

So I use the search on DigiKey,
check the price, then search by
the exact part number on
Mouser to see if the price is
much lower.

I'd feel guilty doing that, but I cannot fault you for being thrifty
:-)

Why feel guilty for getting competitive bids? It's standard practice.

Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.

For those who joined the hobby after the early 70's let me point out
that DigiKey's name comes from an electronic digital keyer that the
company sold via ad's in QST. It was a small circuit board (about
2"x2") using RTL (IIRC) Ic's. After a few years the company transformed
from ham radio stuff to a part's mail order biz. Digikey didn't forget
their ham radio roots, they are happy to sell parts in onezes to
hobby buyers today.

Tim Shoppa wrote:
But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust.

Agreed. Digikey and Mouser are my main suppliers. As a rule of thumb,
if you can't get it from Digikey or Mouser, it doesn't really exist.

"Eric Smith" wrote in message
...
Tim Shoppa wrote:
But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust.

Agreed. Digikey and Mouser are my main suppliers. As a rule of thumb,
if you can't get it from Digikey or Mouser, it doesn't really exist.

Does anybody remember the days of Allied and Lafayette?

Ol' Duffer wrote:

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands, more
variety, more types, etc.

"Tim Shoppa" wrote in message
ups.com...
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their
interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders
over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.

Now, if their prices were only as low as Mouser's..

"Eric Smith" wrote in message
...
Tim Shoppa wrote:
But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen
way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others
in
the dust.

Agreed. Digikey and Mouser are my main suppliers. As a rule of
thumb,
if you can't get it from Digikey or Mouser, it doesn't really exist.

That's pure nonsense. I've tried to get specialized semi's from both,
and having failed that, I've found what I needed at other online
sources. One recent example comes to mind: Futurlec. www.futurlec.com
has a number of things much cheaper than D-K or M - and they're
international.

Another is ultrabright LEDs. D-K or M have nothing worthwhile. You
have to go to another supplier to get 'em.

And maybe the best example is the source(s) of many of our small qty
parts: Ebay. ;-)

But on Ebay, read *all* the info in the auction. I see shysters,
especially foreign shysters, who will sell you parts dirt cheap, and rip
you off with the shipping/handling. :-(

"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Ol' Duffer wrote:

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.

.... Higher prices, less quantity price breaks, etc., etc. Oh, did I
mention, higher prices..

I just love wotking on the PCs in our Purchasing Dept. :-/ They have a
whole shelf full of janitorial supply catalogs. Just think, if we could
only gwt all these catalogs and paper towels recycled, we'd save a whole
continent of forests..

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:23:55 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
And maybe the best example is the source(s) of many of our small qty
parts: Ebay. ;-)

But on Ebay, read *all* the info in the auction. I see shysters,
especially foreign shysters, who will sell you parts dirt cheap, and rip
you off with the shipping/handling. :-(

It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money.
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is.

Robert Baer wrote:
Ol' Duffer wrote:

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.


If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands, more
variety, more types, etc.

I wonder how long Mouser can keep up the quarterly catalogs. They are
getting huge these days! About 3 times the size of what they were just
2-3 years ago.

I'm not griping mind you, but I'd hate to have to do all my daydreaming
and parts selections online.

-Bill

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:30:27 -0800, the renowned "Watson A.Name -
\"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:


"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Ol' Duffer wrote:

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.

... Higher prices, less quantity price breaks, etc., etc. Oh, did I
mention, higher prices..

I just love wotking on the PCs in our Purchasing Dept. :-/ They have a
whole shelf full of janitorial supply catalogs. Just think, if we could
only gwt all these catalogs and paper towels recycled, we'd save a whole
continent of forests..

Those janitorial supply guys have *really* high prices. Between
telephone directories, Mouser, Digikey, trade rags, paper packing and
EEM, the recycling box is never hungry. A few printouts don't amount
to much, and the few newspapers tend to get used for packing, which is
lighter than that recycled paper packing that Digikey uses.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Have a look at the Farnell

I spent some time playing around with the Farnell/Newark web selectors
and they actually are pretty decent. Just like Digikey, they sometime
get tripped up by obscure numbering (for example, Newark/Farnell
calling 0603 size SMT parts 603 in many instances) or other gotchas,
but in principle the two mechanisms seem to be approximately
equivalent.

So, attaboy Newark/Farnell! Maybe they'll get more than one order
every 5 years from me now :-)

Tim.

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:33:16 -0000,
Leon Heller wrote
in Msg.
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Have a look at the Farnell and RS websites (UK):

You've got to be kidding. I find the RS website impossible to use. I
always refer to the printed catalog. Also they want me to register to
access data sheets etc.

Of course it's easy to just punch in a part number and get taken to the
appropriate result. But if you're searching a bit less specific -- say,
for a certain kind of connector you've seen somewhere, everything falls
apart because there's no such thing as a parametric search engine. Turning
tha pages of the paper catalog is much quicker.

--Daniel

I remember Jerry Mouser in his claptrap pickup truck peddling "jappo crappo"
capacitors and resistors out of the bed of the truck at a lot of the
companies in San Diego in the late '60s.

Things have changed...

Jim



"
I wonder how long Mouser can keep up the quarterly catalogs.

"Tim Shoppa" wrote in message
oups.com...
Have a look at the Farnell

I spent some time playing around with the Farnell/Newark web selectors
and they actually are pretty decent. Just like Digikey, they sometime
get tripped up by obscure numbering (for example, Newark/Farnell
calling 0603 size SMT parts 603 in many instances) or other gotchas,
but in principle the two mechanisms seem to be approximately
equivalent.

So, attaboy Newark/Farnell! Maybe they'll get more than one order
every 5 years from me now :-)

The nice thing about Farnell is that they don't charge for normal delivery
and I usually get what I order the following day. That's in the UK, of
course.

Leon

"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Ol' Duffer wrote:

Their pricing doth truly suck sometimes, but on the good
side they stock most of the stuff in their catalogs (and
then some), as opposed to some "other" distributors whose
catalogs might be characterized as vaporware.

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.

If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.

... Higher prices, less quantity price breaks, etc., etc. Oh, did I
mention, higher prices..

I just love wotking on the PCs in our Purchasing Dept. :-/ They have a
whole shelf full of janitorial supply catalogs. Just think, if we could
only gwt all these catalogs and paper towels recycled, we'd save a whole
continent of forests..

....and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.

Robert Baer wrote:

I just love wotking on the PCs in our Purchasing Dept. :-/ They have a
whole shelf full of janitorial supply catalogs. Just think, if we could
only gwt all these catalogs and paper towels recycled, we'd save a whole
continent of forests..


...and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.

Think of the unemployment that would result.
:)

-Bill

Bill M wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

...and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.

Think of the unemployment that would result.
:)

-Bill

Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.

--
Beware of those who suffer from delusions of adequacy!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Bill M wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

...and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.

Think of the unemployment that would result.
:)

-Bill


Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.


What about all the honest workers like power company employees who have
a job thanks to spam? Should they also "stare to death"?
:)
-Bill

Bill M wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.


What about all the honest workers like power company employees who have
a job thanks to spam? Should they also "stare to death"?
:)
-Bill

No, just let them catch up on maintenance that gets pushed aside, or
let them go to work for the cable company! :) They are still doing
repairs in Ocala from last year's hurricanes and its almost time for
hurricane season again. I saw some wires still on the ground along I-75
near Gainsville a couple weeks ago that went down during Frances.
Progress energy just repaired a damaged pole near my house that was
damaged during Frances.

--
Beware of those who suffer from delusions of adequacy!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


I saw some wires still on the ground along I-75
near Gainsville a couple weeks ago that went down during Frances.
Progress energy just repaired a damaged pole near my house that was
damaged during Frances.

Bummer isn't it? One of the unforeseen costs of spam.

-Bill

Why did I know in my gut that a decent conversation on a relevant topic
would degenerate into the usual bunch of crap within a couple of days?

Jim



...and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.

RST Engineering wrote:

Why did I know in my gut that a decent conversation on a relevant topic
would degenerate into the usual bunch of crap within a couple of days?

Jim

I guess it finally degenerated enough for you to join in? :)

Actually, with less spam on the net you could brows the vendor's
websites faster because there would be more bandwidth free for real
browsing.

--
Beware of those who suffer from delusions of adequacy!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Bill M" wrote in message
...
Robert Baer wrote:
Ol' Duffer wrote:

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.


If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.

I wonder how long Mouser can keep up the quarterly catalogs. They are
getting huge these days! About 3 times the size of what they were
just
2-3 years ago.

I'm not griping mind you, but I'd hate to have to do all my
daydreaming
and parts selections online.

If you don't, you're already missing out on some things. The paper
catalog doesn't have everything that's online.

-Bill

Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:


and parts selections online.


If you don't, you're already missing out on some things. The paper
catalog doesn't have everything that's online.

Maybe so, but so far I've always been able to find everything I need in
the paper catalog so it still gets a big thumbs up from me for convenience.

-Bill

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Bill M wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

...and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year
would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.

Think of the unemployment that would result.
:)

-Bill

Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.

Problem is, a lot of the spammers are down there in your area, in Boca
Raton. I wish the hurricanes had wiped them out!
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...0915_0180_db03
5.htm

--
Beware of those who suffer from delusions of adequacy!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.

Problem is, a lot of the spammers are down there in your area, in Boca
Raton. I wish the hurricanes had wiped them out!
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2004/nf20040915_0180_db035.htm


They interviewed one of the spammers on local TV just before
Hurricane Frances went through. She was bragging about how easy it was
to opt out but couldn't see what was wrong with getting plastered with
her crap in the first place.

The bandwidth problem here is getting worse. If you don't go
broadband you might as well give up accessing the net until midnight.
Also, newer web design software is so bloated some servers crawl to the
point they don't have the capacity or bandwidth to do their job.

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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Think about all the extra bandwidth on the net after the spam
died!
So what if some sleaze balls stare to death? They should have had
honest jobs like cleaning toilets and digging ditches.

Problem is, a lot of the spammers are down there in your area, in
Boca
Raton. I wish the hurricanes had wiped them out!

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...40915_0180_db0
35.htm


They interviewed one of the spammers on local TV just before
Hurricane Frances went through. She was bragging about how easy it
was
to opt out but couldn't see what was wrong with getting plastered with
her crap in the first place.

The bandwidth problem here is getting worse. If you don't go
broadband you might as well give up accessing the net until midnight.
Also, newer web design software is so bloated some servers crawl to
the
point they don't have the capacity or bandwidth to do their job.

Must've been sht Spam Queen. Bitch.
http://spam.surferbeware.com/spam-spam-queen.htm

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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:53:50 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message

The bandwidth problem here is getting worse. If you don't go
broadband you might as well give up accessing the net until midnight.
Also, newer web design software is so bloated some servers crawl to
the
point they don't have the capacity or bandwidth to do their job.

Must've been sht Spam Queen. Bitch.
http://spam.surferbeware.com/spam-spam-queen.htm

The main problem is the morons that comprise the 4 percent that actually
buy crap from the spammers.

FOUR PERCENT! That's a phenomenal return, even for a pre-qualified
mailing list.

As long as they can keep getting paid, they'll keep doing it. It's like
the war on drugs - it's like stopping the tide.

Sigh.
Rich