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Bernard, Michael: Thanks for this wonderful question and great answer.
Yea, scrounging and making do with what is available is the way to go. There's a great book "First Light" by Richard Preston. It is about the Palomar Mountain telescope. There is a section on the technical team that builds the modern instruments used with the old 'scope. They got a lot of their best parts by "dumpster diving" in California. 73 Bill M0HBR, CU2JL, N2CQR http://planeta.clix.pt/n2cqr Michael Black wrote: "Bernard" ) writes: 1) I recently bought a dual conversion 72MHz RC receiver. For $45 (and 13 grams !), one can get one Toshiba TA31136FN, a ceramic discriminator, a 11.155 MHz (10.7 + .455) crystal, one 10.7 MHz crystal and one 455 kHz ceramic filters, one IF transformer, 3 adjustable inductors, one dual-gate mosfet (unidentified), a 3.3V regulator and more. I am not sure what to think except that this might be a non traditional way to source 1/2 of the RX section ! But amateur radio has always been about scrounging. Once you know enough, you can make do in a lot of cases with what's available rather than what's specified. Indeed, over the decades many an article has been based on what the author had at hand (or in some cases what he thought would be readily available) rather than because there was something special about the parts. A beginner suffers from not knowing enough, and going down to the parts store with the list of parts and having no choice but to live with the prices, or if the parts aren't available. But once they have a more extensive understanding, they know that they can pull those bypass capacitors off that VCR, and use those generic transistors instead of the generic transistors specified in the article. $45 is kind of expensive. Take any older cordless phone, and one is bound to find a double conversion (10.7MHz and 455KHz) FM receiver, often using one of those Motorola ICs. You can get them cheap at garage sales over here, I've stopped bothering with them because they are still plentiful (though I suppose a later generation will be less useful, being more compact and maybe using different IF frequencies). Indeed, buy the handset and the base unit, and you get two IF strips. The ones I've taken apart have a ceramic 10.7MHz filter, of the type you'd find in an FM broadcast receiver, but that happens in a lot of stuff. (Note there are some exceptions, where the units are single converstion dropping from 49MHz to 455KHz, but the one I picked up like that did still use one of those Motorola ICs.) Before FRS took off, there were license free 49MHz superhet walkie talkies, that had dual conversion receivers with the better ones, and they could be adapted with a change of front end coils. These have faded away, so I don't know how available they are (I once bought a pair for twenty dollars at a garage sale), but they're is nothing forbidding their use. Baby monitors maybe, but I've never taken one apart and because of their use I have my suspcions that they may be single conversion, and perhaps even superregen. Old cellphones, the bigger and clunkier the better, offer up narrow band FM IF filters, and even complete IF strips. The first IF will usually be in the 45MHz or higher range, but given that they do include the conversion crystal to 455KHz, it doesn't really matter. The older ones are cheap now, and the further back you go the more discrete components you'll see. They'll be through-hole ICs, and identifiable, rather than more recent ones that are surface mount and much higher density where you can only use the ICs for the intended purpose. One problem that has arisen is that construction articles in recent decades have become more about providing a kit to the builder. Expect the builder to copy it perfectly, buy the exact parts, and maybe even buy it as a kit from the author or a third party. Once that happens, the author focuses on using parts that are easy to come by, and the article is about "building it like this" instead of explaining the philosophy and possible alternatives to the parts. But it's only through understanding that people can look at a schematic and realize they can use that filter they have. The more they are spoon fed the more dependent they become. Michael VE2BVW |
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