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"John Smith" wrote in message ... yes, you will forgive me if I skip reading all of that, I doubt you offered anything relevant to the mans original question anyway... Yeah, don't confuse us with theory and engineering- especially stay away from any math. But to Len, Thanks for the informative post. I have used 2C39's on 23cM in 2 and 4 tube water cooled designs for EME, but appreciate your insight into the construction and caveats. Dale W4OP |