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Most of that is fictional... lots of "could have", "should have", "would have" which it suggests though... Computer related hardware/software is where all of the engineers are coming from today. John On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:34:33 -0700, Polymath wrote: What is Ham Radio? (Nothing whatsoever to do with Mrs.Nugatory and her infantile obsessive habits, that's for sure!) Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who are interested in the science of radio wave propagation and who are also interested in the way that their radios function. It has a long-standing tradition of providing a source of engineers who are born naturals. Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life fascination with all things technical and gives an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in! This excitement causes a wish to share the experience with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio. Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters, the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this with gusto, and also repair and modify their own equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort to gain, and one to be jealously guarded. The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with the latter that communication with like-minded technically motivated people takes off. The scope for technical development grows with the years and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal of excitement in the areas of computer programming to be learnt and applied. The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing, competitions and fox-hunts. -----OOOOO---- However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a desirable thing to have that there are large numbers of people who wish to be thought of as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing of the kind! Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how their radios work inside and have no wish to find out; they are free with rather silly personal insults; they have not satisfied any technical qualification and their licences prevent the use of self-designed-and-built equipment. These CB types engage in the competitive activities with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams. No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people! |
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If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that I warn against. Perhaps the horse has already bolted? John Smith wrote: PM: Most of that is fictional... lots of "could have", "should have", "would have" which it suggests though... Computer related hardware/software is where all of the engineers are coming from today. John On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:34:33 -0700, Polymath wrote: What is Ham Radio? (Nothing whatsoever to do with Mrs.Nugatory and her infantile obsessive habits, that's for sure!) Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who are interested in the science of radio wave propagation and who are also interested in the way that their radios function. It has a long-standing tradition of providing a source of engineers who are born naturals. Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life fascination with all things technical and gives an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in! This excitement causes a wish to share the experience with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio. Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters, the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this with gusto, and also repair and modify their own equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort to gain, and one to be jealously guarded. The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with the latter that communication with like-minded technically motivated people takes off. The scope for technical development grows with the years and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal of excitement in the areas of computer programming to be learnt and applied. The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing, competitions and fox-hunts. -----OOOOO---- However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a desirable thing to have that there are large numbers of people who wish to be thought of as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing of the kind! Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how their radios work inside and have no wish to find out; they are free with rather silly personal insults; they have not satisfied any technical qualification and their licences prevent the use of self-designed-and-built equipment. These CB types engage in the competitive activities with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams. No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people! |
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Polymath wrote: If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that I warn against. It is fictional as is your charge Perhaps the horse has already bolted? |
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Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?
an_old_friend wrote: Polymath wrote: If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that I warn against. It is fictional as is your charge Perhaps the horse has already bolted? |
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Polymath wrote: Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign? nope no call signs in CB, at least not in the US you are just writing bafflegab to use an expression of one of MY fav Birtish chacters, the Doctor, of course an_old_friend wrote: Polymath wrote: If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that I warn against. It is fictional as is your charge Perhaps the horse has already bolted? |
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Who? Doctor Who? :| John On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:36:54 -0700, an_old_friend wrote: Polymath wrote: Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign? nope no call signs in CB, at least not in the US you are just writing bafflegab to use an expression of one of MY fav Birtish chacters, the Doctor, of course an_old_friend wrote: Polymath wrote: If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that I warn against. It is fictional as is your charge Perhaps the horse has already bolted? |
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Let me give a summary of the "real world." If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer. In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc.... By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware project would most likely be computer related. Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up... John On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:27:42 -0700, Polymath wrote: Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign? an_old_friend wrote: Polymath wrote: If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that I warn against. It is fictional as is your charge Perhaps the horse has already bolted? |
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John Smith wrote:
Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up... Fabulously put. -- huLLy Mobile phone 07976 123278 ICQ 136-987-925 |
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"John Smith" wrote in message news PM: Let me give a summary of the "real world." If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer. In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc.... By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware project would most likely be computer related. Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up... John The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now they just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming. Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop for upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own hardware upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old farts" that you seem to despise so. I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email, spreadsheets, etc. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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Dee:
You know you have won a soft-spot in my heart now, and I always wanna "take-the-gloves-off" when replying to your posts, and I would, except you would take it as an insult and never forgive me... Yes, there are people like that in the world. Indeed, the top of the bell-curve are those with an IQ of 100-110 (barely intelligent enough not to drool on their work.) If your company/corp is interning them, you really should look for a position elsewhere, but you knew that... John On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:04:16 -0400, Dee Flint wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message news PM: Let me give a summary of the "real world." If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer. In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc.... By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware project would most likely be computer related. Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up... John The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now they just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming. Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop for upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own hardware upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old farts" that you seem to despise so. I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email, spreadsheets, etc. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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