Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

Polymath wrote:
Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

nope no call signs in CB, at least not in the US

you are just writing bafflegab to use an expression of one of MY fav
Birtish chacters, the Doctor, of course



an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

AOF:

Who? Doctor Who? :|

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:36:54 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:


Polymath wrote:
Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

nope no call signs in CB, at least not in the US

you are just writing bafflegab to use an expression of one of MY fav
Birtish chacters, the Doctor, of course



an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

PM:

Let me give a summary of the "real world."

If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer.

In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country
and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to
IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc....

By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language
and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware
project would most likely be computer related.

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them
using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack
the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by
transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and
you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current
technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider
what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up...

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:27:42 -0700, Polymath wrote:

Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

John Smith wrote:

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at
them using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior.
They lack the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos,
documents, etc. by transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then,
they show you a CW key and you are dumb struck, and leave. You
return to the internet and current technology, never to stray
again... you begin a web site and consider what position you would
like in the computer field, when you grow up...


Fabulously put.
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
PM:

Let me give a summary of the "real world."

If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer.

In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country
and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to
IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc....

By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language
and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware
project would most likely be computer related.

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them
using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack
the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by
transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and
you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current
technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider
what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up...

John


The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now they
just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming.
Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop for
upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own hardware
upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old farts"
that you seem to despise so.

I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email, spreadsheets,
etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee:

You know you have won a soft-spot in my heart now, and I always wanna
"take-the-gloves-off" when replying to your posts, and I would, except you
would take it as an insult and never forgive me...

Yes, there are people like that in the world. Indeed, the top of the
bell-curve are those with an IQ of 100-110 (barely intelligent enough not
to drool on their work.) If your company/corp is interning them, you
really should look for a position elsewhere, but you knew that...

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:04:16 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
news
PM:

Let me give a summary of the "real world."

If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer.

In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country
and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to
IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc....

By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language
and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware
project would most likely be computer related.

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them
using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack
the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by
transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and
you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current
technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider
what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up...

John


The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now they
just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming.
Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop for
upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own hardware
upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old farts"
that you seem to despise so.

I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email, spreadsheets,
etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now
they just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in
programming. Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to
the shop for upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their
own hardware upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and
the "old farts" that you seem to despise so.
===========================
From the above comments it is clear that the writer has no idea what's going
on in the Linux World ; with its many volunteer developers /testers , many
being from the younger generation . Ever been to a Linux or Robotics or
Hackers Fest ?

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

"Highland Ham" wrote in message
...
The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now
they just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in
programming. Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers
to the shop for upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing
their own hardware upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle
aged and the "old farts" that you seem to despise so.
===========================
From the above comments it is clear that the writer has no idea what's
going on in the Linux World ; with its many volunteer developers /testers
, many being from the younger generation . Ever been to a Linux or
Robotics or Hackers Fest ?

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


A. They don't have those fests here

B. Didn't say no one is doing these things just that their heyday has come
and gone.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
PM:

Let me give a summary of the "real world."

If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer.

In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country
and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to
IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc....

By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language
and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware
project would most likely be computer related.

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them
using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack
the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by
transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and
you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current
technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider
what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up...

John


The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now they
just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming.
Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop for
upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own hardware
upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old farts"
that you seem to despise so.

I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email, spreadsheets,
etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Absolutely. 25 or 30 years ago it was true. Then I could ask an exam question
which required writing an ISR in assembly, or even object.

Now, forget it! Such questions would never be allowed because the students
wouldn't understand the question.

My grandkids live for the computer. the blackberry, cellphone and their gadgets,
but have no idea what goes on behind the screen, despite the fact that their
mother is a specialist in advanced secure systems. The kid who used to cut my
grass thinks he is a programmer because he can copy a script from the internet -
but say things like "object", "hex", "bus" and this teenage expert looks at me
llike I have one eye in the middle of my forehead.

If I want to talk to people who build hardware, write efficient imaginative
software, and can actually do hex math I go to the QCWA breakfast; where someone
always has a new piece of homebrew microwave hardware or some neat little Unix
trick to show off.

The last QCWA convention I attended had fascinating discussions on cell phone
hacking, unix programming, software defined radio along with the old standards
of antennas, propagation, etc.

Yes, I'm an old fart who can hand key 25wpm (but doesn't anymmore because e-mail
is easier, not faster), use the net, write assembly programs and even use a
soldering iron. I even have some idea how the telephone system works and made
phone calls from my HT before the cell phone was invented. And I certainly do
not rank myself anywhere near the experimenters and explorers in Ham Radio; I'm
not that talented.

Dave
VE3HLU