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Old September 4th 05, 01:07 PM
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Hi Tom,
thanks for answer. I will make device for data-transfer on 900 MHz with
nRF905 from Nordic. I have no experience in so high frequency. This
device is low power transmitter. I am not sure what happen wenn I use
standard (non-RF) circuit board. Probably output power will be low or
cann I waiting another problems ?

Cheers,

Fero

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Old September 5th 05, 06:50 PM
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Hi Fero,

Since I'm not familiar with the nRF905, I can't really anticipate what
problems you might run into. I do expect that at 900MHz, if you can
come up with a proper layout and execute it correctly, standard FR-4
(modern fiberglass-epoxy) dielectric shouldn't be a significant
problem. I'm assuming that the whole board is small and you don't have
more than a couple cm trace length. Obviously, if you ran a few meters
of microstrip, you'd have noticable loss. Perhaps someone with some
nRF905 experience can give you more help. I did bring up the Nordic
website, but the ap note files for the demo boards were in some format
my 'puter doesn't understand. (Why doesn't eveyone include a PDF
version??) Since Nordic seems to try to provide lots of info on their
web site, perhaps they would answer an email about your concerns.

Cheers,
Tom

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Old September 5th 05, 10:03 PM
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The application note for the NRF905 does specify FR4 board with 1.54mm
substrate thickness. FR4 is the board material used for almost all printed
circuit boards, so you can use a regular board and just make sure the
thickness is 1.544mm.

http://www.nordicsemi.no/files/Produ...out_rev2_0.pdf


here is the link for most od the documents related to the NRF905.


http://www.nvlsi.no/index.cfm?obj=se...t=searchResult



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Old September 8th 05, 04:29 PM
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1.5mm just happens to be 0.062" (1 / 16 ") which is the industry standard
board thickness.

Jim


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The application note for the NRF905 does specify FR4 board with 1.54mm
substrate thickness. FR4 is the board material used for almost all
printed
circuit boards, so you can use a regular board and just make sure the
thickness is 1.544mm.



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Old September 7th 05, 08:38 AM
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Hi Tom,

I have got one more question : could this RF-4 material be used for
frequency up to 2,4 GHz too ? ( blue toot )
Namely, Nordic offers chips for this frequency, too.

Thanks a lot.

Fero



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Old September 7th 05, 10:40 AM
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Fero wrote:
Hi Tom,

I have got one more question : could this RF-4 material be used for
frequency up to 2,4 GHz too ? ( blue toot )
Namely, Nordic offers chips for this frequency, too.

Thanks a lot.

Fero


I used ordinary FR-4 for a 6 GHz pulsed oscillator in a commercial
product, and the last I heard it was working fine in mass production.
But it's used only in a dry environment, and doesn't have any high Q
networks or filters. If your design can tolerate relatively high loss
and a moderate dielectric constant (about 5) that varies with
temperature and humidity, FR-4 is fine. If it can't, you should consider
Rogers PTFE board products or something similar.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
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Old September 8th 05, 04:30 PM
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I used it at 2.3 Gig in a 5 watt transmitter and it worked just fine.

Jim



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Hi Tom,

I have got one more question : could this RF-4 material be used for
frequency up to 2,4 GHz too ? ( blue toot )
Namely, Nordic offers chips for this frequency, too.

Thanks a lot.

Fero



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