wrote:

Michael, as an afterthought....

I'll immediately send you a Paypal payment for $3.50, if you'll send
me one of your "Imitation Amphenol" connectors postpaid (just like I am
selling my genuine Amphenols) so that I can examine it and compare the
quality of your product with that of Amphenol's (construction, plating,
solderability, etc.).

I'll even photograph the two different products side-by-side and email
the photo to any newsgroup reader requesting it so they can make up
their own minds. Is that fair or not?

Put up or shut-up!

Harry C.

Switchcraft is not "Imitation Amphenol" It is an american made
product. I can get you a picture of it if you want. Obviously you have
never used anything from Switchcraft, or you wouldn't question the
quality. It was used in a lot of military and industrial grade
equipment, where I have seen more ham gear with Amphenol connectors.

As far as Paypal goes, I do not have an account. I don't buy or sell
on E-bay, so i really don't need one. The parts i have for sale are the
leftovers where I shut down my business due to failing health. I would
rather sell them cheap than have them end up in a landfill. I used to
sell at a half dozen hamfests every year, but I can't make the long
trips anymore. That leaves the Ocala hamfest that is within my driving
range, and the locals already know how to find me. I did commercial
sound, broadcast and industrial work. I only used Switchcraft, because
of their quality and a reasonable delivery time. At the time they were
a division of Raytheon, who was a large defense contractor.


Here is one online photo of the Switchcraft 2501F connector at Allied
Electronics:
http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=932-1045


http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=ISO-8859-1&newwindow=1&q=switchcraft+2501F&btnG=Search
has 190 pages that sell or mention the Switchcraft 2501 F connector


http://www.stkcheck.com/evs/mfg2.asp?mfg=SWITCHCRAFT&urlpath=&urltext=&DX=&par t=2501F&stype=Search
is a page of distributors with it in stock.


I can ship you one of the connectors if you want it. $3.50 plus
whatever the postage is for the padded bag. Never a handling charge.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael responded:

"I can ship you one of the connectors if you want it. $3.50 plus
whatever the postage is for the padded bag. Never a handling charge."

But you didn't state what postage is, or address the difference between
your Swithcraft products and those of a real Amphenol product. You
also didn't specify what the postage charge would be.

I suppose that I'm a little more open and upfront that you. If you
purchase one if these connectors from me, they will be original
Amphenol products and shipping is FREE.

I take it that you are declining my previous offer. Your connectors are
imitations, and their cost is not $3.50 but $3.50 plus whatever you
deiced to charge for shipping. My price is at auction $7.50 with no
shipping charges, and this is for original Amphenol products in shiny
new condition.

What's the bottom line price, including shipping, or your Amphenol
look-alike connectors?

Harry C.

wrote:

Michael responded:

"I can ship you one of the connectors if you want it. $3.50 plus
whatever the postage is for the padded bag. Never a handling charge."

But you didn't state what postage is, or address the difference between
your Swithcraft products and those of a real Amphenol product. You
also didn't specify what the postage charge would be.


How do I know what the shipping will be if I don't know the zip
code? I provide the mailer and label, then pass on whatever the post
office charges me. No more, or less. I have sold parts to a small
number of people online, in different news groups, and to people that
found some rare ICs (NEC MC-5800) on my website. I have sold a number
of parts to guys on news:rec.antique.radio+phono

I suppose that I'm a little more open and upfront that you. If you
purchase one if these connectors from me, they will be original
Amphenol products and shipping is FREE.


I have a few Amphenol microphone connectors, somewhere. The
insulators were soft, and the plating was poor on the center contact so
I just don't use them. The springs were easily damaged as well. In
fact, I replace them with Switchcraft.


$7.50 and free shipping VS $3.50 and probably $1.50 for shipping.
Hard choice.

I used to ship the parts and let people send me a check after they
received it, but no more. For years I had no problems being paid, then
all of a sudden no one sent a check, unless it bounced.

I take it that you are declining my previous offer. Your connectors are
imitations, and their cost is not $3.50 but $3.50 plus whatever you
deiced to charge for shipping. My price is at auction $7.50 with no
shipping charges, and this is for original Amphenol products in shiny
new condition.

What's the bottom line price, including shipping, or your Amphenol
look-alike connectors?

What is the zip code? I will find out tomorrow what it will cost.
Not that it really matters. You will find fault with anything I send,
just so you can be right.

BTW did you even look at any of the links I provided with pictures of
the connector I have? I doubt it, or you wouldn't have such a ****y
attitude.

I doubt that you will respond with your zip code, because you just
want to bitch about something. You call me names yet I have NO idea who
or for that matter what you are, Harry.


Harry C.


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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:



How do I know what the shipping will be if I don't know the zip
code?

3 or 4 ounces in a first-class mailer is the same cost to all US
destinations. 4oz would be $1.06.

-Bill

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Michael A. Terrell wrote:


How do I know what the shipping will be if I don't know the zip
code?

3 or 4 ounces in a first-class mailer is the same cost to all US
destinations. 4oz would be $1.06.

-Bill

Thanks, Bill. I haven't shipped anything in about two years, so I
had no what the rate was. I don't know for sure what the connector
weighs, off hand, but should be about the right range after its packed.
My digital postal scale only measures in quarter pounds so its only
useful on heavier items.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
-ex- wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


How do I know what the shipping will be if I don't know the zip
code?

3 or 4 ounces in a first-class mailer is the same cost to all US
destinations. 4oz would be $1.06.

-Bill

Thanks, Bill. I haven't shipped anything in about two years, so I
had no what the rate was. I don't know for sure what the connector
weighs, off hand, but should be about the right range after its packed.
My digital postal scale only measures in quarter pounds so its only
useful on heavier items.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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What a saga ,ego tripping and a waste of bandwidth.

Please Gents stop this 'cyber duel' using a radio amateur homebrew NG,
There must be other (and better) places to continue your fight.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

Michael posted:

"As far as Paypal goes, I do not have an account. I don't buy or sell
on E-bay, so i really don't need one."

So, why are you posting objections to those of us on eBay and Paypal
who have earned a credible history of performance over the years. We
who use eBay have no knowledge of who you are (because you have no
feedback history), so you could equally be a nice guy or a scam artist.
If you don't want, or don't have an eBay history, and are selling items
on the Internet, chances are that you are some type of scam artist, and
put-down those that would otherwise (based on their established history
of good dealings) pose a competition for you.

On eBay, before sending any seller money, most of us will look up
his/her eBay history. This tells a lot of information, and trust. Not
having a history on eBay, were I to send you $3.50 for one of your
connectors, I would be taking a risk...but not a large risk since the
amount is only $3.50, Were you no a listed and registed seller on
eBay, I wouldn't send you anything...except in this test case...because
you have no established credibility. Same thing holds true, if you
don't have a certified address on Paypal, in which case I can send you
nothing.

You have evidenced a very loud mouth, and evidently decline my posted
challenge. So....please go away!

Harry C.

wrote:

Michael posted:

"As far as Paypal goes, I do not have an account. I don't buy or sell
on E-bay, so i really don't need one."

So, why are you posting objections to those of us on eBay and Paypal
who have earned a credible history of performance over the years. We
who use eBay have no knowledge of who you are (because you have no
feedback history), so you could equally be a nice guy or a scam artist.
If you don't want, or don't have an eBay history, and are selling items
on the Internet, chances are that you are some type of scam artist, and
put-down those that would otherwise (based on their established history
of good dealings) pose a competition for you.


I am not COMPETING with anyone for sales. I don't care if the parts
I have ever sell. When I die whatever is left will be going to the local
landfill, rather than let them go to someone who will sell them on
E-bay. I don't buy on E-bay because I have more projects and parts
left, that time to finish the projects and use up the parts. Also,
almost all of my spare money is going into a non profit corporation to
help local disabled veterans. I collect and repair old computers for
vets who are too poor to buy a computer. I would rather do this than
put up with the **** I get from hams these days. Why subject myself to
it when I can work when I am well enough, then call the "Vets helping
Vets" to tell them that another free computer system is ready for them
to give away? Do you do anything for your fellow humans?

On eBay, before sending any seller money, most of us will look up
his/her eBay history. This tells a lot of information, and trust. Not
having a history on eBay, were I to send you $3.50 for one of your
connectors, I would be taking a risk...but not a large risk since the
amount is only $3.50, Were you no a listed and registed seller on
eBay, I wouldn't send you anything...except in this test case...because
you have no established credibility. Same thing holds true, if you
don't have a certified address on Paypal, in which case I can send you
nothing.

You have evidenced a very loud mouth, and evidently decline my posted
challenge. So....please go away!

Harry C.

I have no objections to anyone who buys or sells on E-bay, or uses
Paypal. As far as a loud mouth? It is you who refuses to admit that
Switchcraft is a quality product. I am 100% disabled, after 40 years of
working in electronic repair, Broadcast and CATV engineering. I spent my
last four years working at Microdyne building $20,000 to $80,000
telemetry receivers and systems. I really don't care what you think.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

You wrote:

"Why subject myself to
it when I can work when I am well enough, then call the "Vets helping
Vets" to tell them that another free computer system is ready for them
to give away? Do you do anything for your fellow humans?"

In short I do but I don't wear my heart on my sleeve and present it as
a badge of honor. I'm also partially disabled with Parkinson's and
Crohn's diseases and am four weeks out of the hospital after having a
foot of my colon removed. Like you I rebuild and restore old computers,
but mostly give them to the really poor kids to give them a vision of
the worlds that they can aspire to. I also repair surplus geiger
counters and donate them to the local fire departments, now that Civil
Defense trashed them and sold them at auction. I've also been known to
donate to the DAV each time they ask, and was an active participant in
our local Civil Defense emergency communications group until that was
also disbanded (practically on the eve of when it is most needed). As a
Mason, most of my cash contributions go to the Masonic Homes,
children's hospitals, and other worthy causes (unfortunately these
contributions are now limited to my fixed income from Social Security
and my Raytheon pension, plus what little I earn on eBay.

So wish me well on my eBay sales, because the little that I earn from
that source goes into worthy causes, not on lavish vacations in Vegas
or the Islands!

Harry C.

wrote:

You wrote:

"Why subject myself to
it when I can work when I am well enough, then call the "Vets helping
Vets" to tell them that another free computer system is ready for them
to give away? Do you do anything for your fellow humans?"

In short I do but I don't wear my heart on my sleeve and present it as
a badge of honor. I'm also partially disabled with Parkinson's and
Crohn's diseases and am four weeks out of the hospital after having a
foot of my colon removed. Like you I rebuild and restore old computers,
but mostly give them to the really poor kids to give them a vision of
the worlds that they can aspire to. I also repair surplus geiger
counters and donate them to the local fire departments, now that Civil
Defense trashed them and sold them at auction. I've also been known to
donate to the DAV each time they ask, and was an active participant in
our local Civil Defense emergency communications group until that was
also disbanded (practically on the eve of when it is most needed). As a
Mason, most of my cash contributions go to the Masonic Homes,
children's hospitals, and other worthy causes (unfortunately these
contributions are now limited to my fixed income from Social Security
and my Raytheon pension, plus what little I earn on eBay.

So wish me well on my eBay sales, because the little that I earn from
that source goes into worthy causes, not on lavish vacations in Vegas
or the Islands!

Harry C.


I haven't been on a vacation in over 20 years because I couldn't
afford to take the time off, and had any money to spend at the same
time. The last few years that I was ale to work I was on the advisory
board for a local school system's vocational electronics course. I would
take vacation days to go into the classroom to help the kids that wanted
to learn, and give the an idea of what to expect in the real world of
electronics. Now, my disability pension is below the poverty level and
I don't get any retirement benefits so I continue to live a very simple
lifestyle. They tell me I am allowed to earn a little money from a
hobby, but no one will give me a dollar amount. Others tell me to take
in boarders. That will not only cost me my pension, it will kick my
property taxes up to more than I could make by renting out the extra
bedrooms.

As far as giving computers to needy kids there are at least a half
dozen groups already doing that in my area, so I chose to help another
group that was in need. The disabled vets don't care how old a computer
is as long as they can do e-mail and some simple browsing. After all,
most of them are confined to a wheelchair, or bed and have nothing else
to do but watch TV.

The needy kids that I have talked to wanted a better computer than
what I use for myself, and to track the project. They also want a
printer, a scanner, a cd burner and a DVD drive along with plenty of
paper and ink jet cartridges. Several insisted that they had to have a
laptop and that a desktop computer was useless to them. So far I have
only had one laptop donated. It is an old Compaq that has a failing
display and a dead battery. Who wants to spend several hundred dollars
to repair a Win 95 laptop? We all have choices to make in life. Since
I am a veteran who is disabled, and I chose to help my fellow veterans,
and I applied to join the DAV last week.

Have fun selling on E-bay. I can't afford to play the games a lot of
people want on E-bay. I see things that ask three times what something
is worth for the shipping costs. Add in their minimum bid and I can buy
two to four of the same item, brand new for the same price, and have
them delivered to my door.

BTW, I guess that you didn't know that Raytheon owned Switchcraft? I
don't know if they still do, but it was clearly marked on the cover of
the last printed Switchcraft catalog that I have.


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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida