Bill Sohl wrote:


"Spike" wrote

Polymouth wrote:

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege.

[ ] In the UK, no repeat no licence of any kind is necessary to
specify, design, construct, modify, repair, own, or (under some
circumstances) test an Amateur transmitter.

That is essentially true also for the US. The amateur license is
ONLY needed for "on-the-air" operation of a transmitter.
In contrast, anyone can construct and operate a reciever.

Yes, it's a reasonably common theme that seems to have been totally
missed by this chap. It makes one wonder if he has a full grasp of his
Licence conditions

[ ] A pass in a current examination for a UK Amateur Licence qualifies
the successful candidate for the issue of a UK Licence. Holders of the
appropriate levels of licence are permitted to operate transmitting
equipment that is not subject to a formal approvals procedure, and to
carry out technical investigations. A qualification for a Licence, or
the Licence itself, is not, repeat not, a qualification to specify,
design, construct, modify, repair, or own transmitting equipment.

I think that can be generally said as true also for the US.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

The other thing to be aware of is that this chap, in this sock-puppet
and his innumerable previous ones, has alternately decried e.g contest
operating as being the act of a "CBer", and then swung completely
about and used it as a justification for the description of a 'radio
ham'. I've lost count now of how many times this circle has been gone
round. It must make anyone who is keen on becoming a 'radio ham' very
confused, as the fundamental basis on which it is built changes so
often!

from
Aero Spike

"Spike" wrote in message
...

Bill Sohl wrote:


"Spike" wrote

Polymouth wrote:

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege.

[ ] In the UK, no repeat no licence of any kind is necessary to
specify, design, construct, modify, repair, own, or (under some
circumstances) test an Amateur transmitter.

That is essentially true also for the US. The amateur license is
ONLY needed for "on-the-air" operation of a transmitter.
In contrast, anyone can construct and operate a reciever.

Yes, it's a reasonably common theme that seems to have been totally
missed by this chap. It makes one wonder if he has a full grasp of his
Licence conditions

[ ] A pass in a current examination for a UK Amateur Licence qualifies
the successful candidate for the issue of a UK Licence. Holders of the
appropriate levels of licence are permitted to operate transmitting
equipment that is not subject to a formal approvals procedure, and to
carry out technical investigations. A qualification for a Licence, or
the Licence itself, is not, repeat not, a qualification to specify,
design, construct, modify, repair, or own transmitting equipment.

I think that can be generally said as true also for the US.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

The other thing to be aware of is that this chap, in this sock-puppet
and his innumerable previous ones, has alternately decried e.g contest
operating as being the act of a "CBer", and then swung completely
about and used it as a justification for the description of a 'radio
ham'. I've lost count now of how many times this circle has been gone
round. It must make anyone who is keen on becoming a 'radio ham' very
confused, as the fundamental basis on which it is built changes so
often!

from
Aero Spike

I wonder where the law stands as far as CB radio's go. Are CB's allowed to
be repaired by the average CB'er who has the knowledge or are they only
repairable by a qualified technician of some kind. I ask along the lines of
the UK but would find the answer for America just as interesting.

Regards,
Graham

The Magnum wrote:

I wonder where the law stands as far as CB radio's go. Are CB's allowed to
be repaired by the average CB'er who has the knowledge or are they only
repairable by a qualified technician of some kind. I ask along the lines of
the UK but would find the answer for America just as interesting.

I can't answer your question, but perhaps this is one of those cases
where it is better not to ask, but to carry on as before. Having a
piece of gear repaired by a certified authority will probably cost
more than buying a new one....

from
Aero Spike

"Spike" wrote in message
...

The Magnum wrote:

I wonder where the law stands as far as CB radio's go. Are CB's allowed
to
be repaired by the average CB'er who has the knowledge or are they only
repairable by a qualified technician of some kind. I ask along the lines
of
the UK but would find the answer for America just as interesting.

I can't answer your question, but perhaps this is one of those cases
where it is better not to ask, but to carry on as before. Having a
piece of gear repaired by a certified authority will probably cost
more than buying a new one....

from
Aero Spike

Thanks for that, quick answer too )
I would agree about the cost from a Certified Authority as most CB's in the
UK are only worth between $26 - $52 and the repair bill from a qualified
"tech" would be more than this... and would they indeed bother as they could
make far more money with the same effort repairing other items more
valuable...
I was just curious as to the legallity of repairing a CB. I wasnt admitting
to anything.. honest .... ;o)
Regards,
Graham

The Magnum wrote:

I was just curious as to the legallity of repairing a CB. I wasnt admitting
to anything.. honest .... ;o)

LOL!

Unfortunately, Amateur Radio has seen increasing restrictions placed
on it due to people seeking 'clarification' from the authorities,
rather than enjoying freedom given by the sometimes loosely-worded
regulations....

from
Aero Spike

"Spike" wrote in message
...

The Magnum wrote:

I was just curious as to the legallity of repairing a CB. I wasnt
admitting
to anything.. honest .... ;o)

LOL!

Unfortunately, Amateur Radio has seen increasing restrictions placed
on it due to people seeking 'clarification' from the authorities,
rather than enjoying freedom given by the sometimes loosely-worded
regulations....

from
Aero Spike

Sounds good to me, now wheres my hammer and screwdriver.. im sure theres an
extra half watt in there somewhere ;o)

"The Magnum" wrote in message
...
I wonder where the law stands as far as CB radio's go. Are CB's allowed to
be repaired by the average CB'er who has the knowledge or are they only
repairable by a qualified technician of some kind. I ask along the lines
of
the UK but would find the answer for America just as interesting.


I'm not sure why this thread is even being cross-posted into a CB group, but
to answer your question, in the US, the radio must be serviced by a
qualified, licensed individual. That is the "legal" way of doing it anyway.
It doesn't happen very often, but that is another story for another time...

I'm not sure why this thread is even being cross-posted into a CB group,
but
to answer your question, in the US, the radio must be serviced by a
qualified, licensed individual. That is the "legal" way of doing it
anyway.
It doesn't happen very often, but that is another story for another
time...



Get a new rule book like one that is newer than say about 10 or so years.
The CB radios in the US has not required a license to repair them in many
years. The GROL is the replacement for the 1st and 2 nd class licenses that
used to be required to repair many transmitters. For about 95 % of the
transmitters in the US it is now worthless and not needed. Some companies
may require it as they think they are getting someone that may know
something. Now it is only needed for :

*****************
General Radiotelephone Operator License (GROL) is required to adjust
maintain, or internally repair FCC licensed radiotelephone transmitters in
the aviation, maritime and international fixed public radio services. It
conveys all of the operating authority of the MROP.

It is required to operate the following:

any maritime land radio station or compulsorily equipped ship radiotelephone
station operating with more than 1500 watts of peak envelope power;


voluntarily equipped ship and aeronautical (including aircraft) stations
with more than 1000 watts of peak envelope power

********************

Go here for more info on the licenses that are now issued.

http://www.narte.org/h/fccabout.asp

"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
ink.net...
I'm not sure why this thread is even being cross-posted into a CB group,
but
to answer your question, in the US, the radio must be serviced by a
qualified, licensed individual. That is the "legal" way of doing it
anyway.
It doesn't happen very often, but that is another story for another
time...



Get a new rule book like one that is newer than say about 10 or so years.
The CB radios in the US has not required a license to repair them in many
years. The GROL is the replacement for the 1st and 2 nd class licenses
that
used to be required to repair many transmitters. For about 95 % of the
transmitters in the US it is now worthless and not needed. Some
companies
may require it as they think they are getting someone that may know
something. Now it is only needed for :


OK, if you want to get technical, a "license" per-say is not needed, though
they still need to be "certified as technically qualified to perform
transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the private land mobile
services and fixed services by an organization or committee representative
of users in those services." - Reference FCC Part 95, Section 95.424
subsection "b".

And as the question that was asked, in relation to the US:
"Are CB's allowed to be repaired by the average CB'er who has the knowledge
or are they only repairable by a qualified technician of some kind[?]"
The answer to the first part of the question is still NO, and the second
part is still, YES. The "average CB'er who has the knowledge" can NOT
service their own CB, legally. They would need to be "certified" to do so
"by an organization or committee representative of users in [the CB
service]."

OK, if you want to get technical, a "license" per-say is not needed,
though
they still need to be "certified as technically qualified to perform
transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the private land mobile
services and fixed services by an organization or committee representative
of users in those services." - Reference FCC Part 95, Section 95.424
subsection "b".

And as the question that was asked, in relation to the US:
"Are CB's allowed to be repaired by the average CB'er who has the
knowledge
or are they only repairable by a qualified technician of some kind[?]"
The answer to the first part of the question is still NO, and the second
part is still, YES. The "average CB'er who has the knowledge" can NOT
service their own CB, legally. They would need to be "certified" to do so
"by an organization or committee representative of users in [the CB
service]."


Don't leave out the word "should". It does not say MUST.